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Mountin Man Giveaway

My guess is John C. Fremont AKA The Pathfinder

From Wiki:
Following a May 9, 1846, Modoc Indian attack on his expedition party, Frémont chose to attack a Klamath Indian fishing village named Dokdokwas, at the junction of the Williamson River and Klamath Lake, which took place May 10, 1846. The action completely destroyed the village, and involved the massacre of women and children. After the burning of the village, Carson was nearly killed by a Klamath warrior later that day: his gun misfired, and the warrior drew to fire a poison arrow; but Frémont, seeing Carson's predicament, trampled the warrior with his horse. Carson stated he felt that he owed Frémont his life.

In all honesty, I didn't know a lot about Mountain Men before this giveaway. Thanks for getting me interested Rotte et al. I'm going to check out a book or two from your list Trent.
 
Great guesses so far, but we haven't lighted upon the correct answer yet. Good readin' though. :thumbup:
 
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John David Albert (1806 – April 24, 1899), loads of stuff about him but these two stood out to how tough he was:

In 1847 he was employed at Simeon Turley's Mill about 12 miles from Taos at Arroyo Hondo. He was one of eight to ten mountain men who held off a siege of approximately 500 Mexicans and Indians against the mill during the Taos Revolt.

Albert survived three wives, all of whom were partially or fully Mexican and all of whom died while married to him, and fathered 21 children before his death in Montana.

Tough as old boots i'm thinking.
 
Day 2 guess;

Donald Mackenzie

From 1818 to 1821, Donald Mackenzie, a brigade leader for the Canadian North West Company and a former Astorian, led yearlong trapping expeditions from Fort Nez Perce at the confluence of the Snake and Columbia rivers into the upper Snake River country.

Dr. Dale Morgan wrote:

The bold and imaginative use of Mackenzie's men for trapping rather than for manning trading posts; his system of supply and the transport of his furs, which involved the use of horses in place of the boats to which the fur trade had been wedded; his maintenance of his trapping force in the field almost uninterruptedly for three years--all this displayed genius and laid the groundwork for the revolution which Jedediah Smith and his associates were about to effect in the conduct of the American fur trade.
 
I guess Liver eatin Johnson!
Johnson is said to have been born near Little York, New Jersey, with the last name Garrison. Some accounts say that he joined the United States Navy in 1846, however, research in his genealogy has discovered he would have been too young during the Mexican-American War. He did go to sea, and at the time the Navy was commandeering vessels, and this may have happened to Johnson. He did say he had been in the Navy when he joined the Union Army during the Civil War. After striking an officer, he deserted, changed his name to John Johnston, and traveled west to try his hand at the gold diggings in Alder Gulch, Montana Territory. He also became a "woodhawk," supplying cord wood to steamboats. He was described as a large man, standing around six feet tall and weighing over two hundred pounds.

Rumors, legends, and campfire tales abound about Johnson. Perhaps chief among them is this one: In 1847, his American Indian wife was killed by Crow Indians, which prompted Johnson to embark on a 20-year vendetta against the tribe. The legend says that he would cut out and eat the liver of each man killed, but it's quite possible that this only happened once and that he just pretended to eat the liver. In any case, he eventually became known as "Liver-Eating Johnson". Since eating the liver of a victim is a symbolic way of completing a revenge slaying, or assuming some qualities of the vanquished, credence might be given to this activity. The story of how he got his name was written down by a diarist at the time. There were three Johnsons, nicknames were commonplace, and with Johnson's show of eating the liver, he received his name.

Another story is when Johnson was ambushed by a group of Blackfoot warriors in the dead of winter on a foray to visit his Flathead kin, a trip that would have been over five hundred miles. The Blackfoot planned to sell him to the Crow, his mortal enemies, for a handsome price. He was stripped to the waist, tied with leather thongs and put in a teepee with an inexperienced guard outside. Johnson managed to chew through the straps, then knocked out his young guard with a punch to the face, took his knife and scalped him, then quickly cut off one of his legs. He made his escape into the woods, and survived on the Blackfoot's leg until he reached the cabin of Del Que, his trapping partner, more dead than alive, a journey of about two hundred miles. However, this story was true, but the protagonist was Boone Helm, another raucous frontiersman.

Eventually, Johnson made peace with the Crow, who became "his brothers", and his personal vendetta against them finally ended after twenty-five years and scores of Crow warriors had fallen. The West, however, was still a very violent and territorial place, particularly during the Plains Indian Wars of the mid 1800s. Many more Indians of different tribes, especially but not limited to, the Sioux and Blackfoot, would know the wrath of "Dapiek Absaroka" Crow killer and his fellow mountain men.

The above information is based upon the yarns and tales told over and over through the years. The novel Mountain Man by Vardis Fisher is a good fiction source. The accurate story is told in the diaries of Lee and Kaiser who were on the Missouri River in 1868 when Johnston was given his moniker, after a rainy fight with the Sioux.

He joined the Union Army in St. Louis in 1864 (Co. H, 2nd Colorado Cavalry) as a private, and was honorably discharged the following year. During the 1880s he was appointed deputy sheriff in Coulson, Montana, and a town marshal in Red Lodge, Montana. He was listed as five foot, eleven and three-quarter inches tall according to government records.

In his time, he was a sailor, scout, soldier, gold seeker, hunter, trapper, whiskey peddler, guide, deputy, constable, builder of log cabins, and any other source of income producing labor he could find.

His last residence was just outside Red Lodge, Montana where he lived in the side of a hill while building his cabin. The cabin is still in Red Lodge although it has been moved many times.

I have recently won a give away so I'm sitting this one out but I just wanted to say that "liver eatin" Johnson is the real mountain man that Robert Redford's character Jeremiah Johnson was based on.

David
 
My guess is Alfred Packer, who in about 1873 killed and ate the other members of his prospecting party when they got trapped in the mountains without food. He was later convicted of cannibalism.

The cafeteria at the University of Colorado at Boulder is named after him.

http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/serial_killers/history/alfred_packer/index.html


[Edit: Woops, just read through the thread and saw that Packer had already been mentioned. Never mind]
 
Another mountain man that I just learned of...

Etienne Provost
Although he does not have the wide recognition of Jim Bridger or John Colter, Etienne Provost was considered by his contemporaries as one of the most knowledgeable, skillful, and successful of the mountain men. Provost gave his name (phonetically) to the Provo River and the city of Provo. It seems likely that most of the early settlers of Provo were unaware of the bloody incident that gave the river its name. Provost's contemporaries, however, knew of his skills and nicknamed him "the man of the mountains."

Of French Canadian ancestry, Provost was born in 1785 in Chambly, Quebec. Around 1814 he became involved in the St. Louis fur trade, often trapping in what was still Spanish territory. Provost and his companions were twice captured and held prisoner by Spanish authorities. About 1822 he began operating out of Taos in present-day New Mexico. In 1824 he and his partner Francois Leclerc led a company north from Taos into the Great Basin. Some authorities claim that Provost may have been the first white man to see the Great Salt Lake?some months before Jim Bridger. In October the party was camped near Utah Lake (then generally known as Timpanogos Lake), probably along the present-named Jordan River. Provost's men encountered a party of Snake (Shoshone) Indians. In his Life in the Rocky Mountains Warren Angus Ferris claims that a Shoshone chief known to the whites as "Bad Gocha" (from mauvais gauche or "bad left-handed one") wanted to smoke the peace pipe with the Taos trappers. Bad Gocha claimed that it was bad luck to have metallic objects nearby, so Provost had his men set their weapons aside. At a signal, the Shoshones then attacked the whites, killing all but Provost and two or three others, who barely managed to fight their way out. The survivors made their way northeast over the Wasatch range.

The following spring Provost and his party met Peter Skene Ogden and members of his Hudson's Bay Company trapping party on the Weber River, near present-day Mountain Green. Upon hearing the story of Provost's narrow escape, Ogden wrote his superiors that he believed that the ambush may have been caused by the behavior of a Hudson's Bay party of the previous year. Ogden reported that Alexander Ross's company had stolen horses and furs from Shoshones and had killed one Indian.


Peter Skene Ogden
Provost nearly got caught up in another fight, partly on account of Ogden. A party of American trappers encountered Ogden's Englishmen in the Weber Valley, and an argument over trapping rights ensued—part of a much larger dispute about the ownership of the "Oregon country." The American and English trappers each claimed the territory for their respective companies and nations. Author Jack B. Tykal points out that, in reality, only the bystander Provost had a legal right to trap in what was still Mexican territory.

Provost met William Ashley's large trapping party soon after and helped to guide Ashley to the site of the first annual mountain man rendezvous at Henry's Fork. Provost continued to work and explore in the American West out of St. Louis, although his active trapping days ended in 1830. He developed a reputation as a tough, resourceful man who also liked to drink and carouse. In 1839 he served as camp conductor for the Jean Nicollet party that mapped the country between the upper Mississippi and Missouri rivers. In 1843 Provost helped guide John James Audubon through the region. Although no photographs of Provost are known to exist, artist Alfred Jacob Miller painted members of the Nicollet expedition. Provost appears short, fat, and round; Miller captioned one picture "Monsieur Proveau, subleader, with a corpus round as a porpoise."
In 1849 Mormon pioneers built "Fort Utah" on a Utah Valley stream that had generally been known as the Timpanogos. Mormons dubbed the river flowing between Utah Lake and the Great Salt Lake the Jordan, after the Holy Land river that connected the Sea of Galilee with the Dead Sea. Barney Ward, a mountain man who helped to guide the Utah Valley settlers, apparently told the Mormons that the Timpanogos stream was also called the "Provo." Why the names got switched is unclear, but the October 1849 LDS Conference directed the establishment of the city of "Provo" on the river. The city's namesake, meanwhile, still lived in St. Louis, unaware of the honor. Etienne Provost died there on July 3, 1850.
 
Thomas Tate Tobin (1823 – 1904) AKA Triple T.
Little known fact: the pro-wrestler, Triple H, was inspired by this mountain man and chose a similar naming schematic.
He was a native Missourian and began as a beaver trapper, much like myself.
Tobin was one of only two men to escape alive from the siege of Turley's Mill during the Taos Revolt.
Just before the Civil War, Tobin was hired as a scout by Maj. B.L. Beall, to guide an expedition to find a railroad route to California. Beall described Tobin as "having a reputation almost equal to Kit Carson's for bravery, dexterity with his rifle, skill in mountain life and having a nicer butt."
In the early 1860's, Mexican national Felipe Espinosa (along with two cousins) went on a killing spree beginning in 1863, murdering over thirty anglos in the area in retaliation for relatives killed in the Mexican-American War. Eventually, the commanding officer of Ft. Garland, Colonel Sam Tappan, requested Tobin's help in bringing the Espinosas' reign of terror to an end. He provided Tobin with a detachment of fifteen soldiers, but Tobin left them at camp, as they made too much noise farting and belching on the trail. Tobin tracked the Espinosas to a camp and tied them up and put a bag over their heads. He tied their rope to his horse and forgot about them causing the rope around the sack to cut off their heads on his way back to Ft. Garland. It is said that when asked by Tappan how his trip had gone, Tobin replied "So-so", then rolled the heads out of the sack and across the floor. "I left 'some' of them behind." There was several thousand dollars reward (Dead or Alive) for the Espinosas, but Tobin would never collect the full amount. However, he was given a coat like Kit Carson's by the governor of Colorado, and a Henry rifle by the Army.
Another attestment to how modern culture has drawn inspiration from Tobin is this historical 'bounty hunt' is what lead to Duane Chapman's (Dog the Bounty Hunter) persuit in his current business.
In 1878, Tobin's daughter, Pascualita, married Kit Carson's son William. Some years later, Tobin tried to stab Carson for abusing Tobin's daughter, and Carson hit Tobin in the head with a sledge-hammer and shot him in the side. Tobin and his son-in-law apparently worked out their problems over a game of beer-pong a few days later, but Tobin never fully recovered from the shooting. He did, however, outlive Billy Carson due to Carson's death from an infected toe-nail.
 
I am gonna guess Nathaniel Wyeth. (wiki'd him)

At age 30, however, Hall J. Kelley convinced him that Oregon had excellent commercial prospects. Wyeth believed that he could become wealthy in the Oregon fur industry, develop farms for growing crops (especially tobacco) and start a salmon industry that would rival New England's cod industry.

When Kelley's plans for an expedition were long delayed, Wyeth formed one of his own, and as he wrote in his expedition journal: "On the 10th of March 1832 I left Boston in a vessel with 20 men for Baltimore where I was joined by four more, and on the 27th left to Rail Road for Fredrick Md from thence to Brownsville we marched on foot, and took passage from that place to Liberty Mo. on various steamboats, which place we left for the prairies on the 12th of May with 21 men, three having deserted, and on the 27th of May three more deserted." From there the expedition's route proceeded along what would later become known as the Oregon Trail, via the Black Hills, the Grand Tetons, north of the Great Salt Lake, thence to Walla Walla, Washington, down the Columbia River, and ultimately to Fort Vancouver on October 29.

On November 6, Wyeth's journal notes that "my men came forward and unanimously desired to be released from their engagement with a view of returning home as soon as possible.... I am now afloat on the great sea of life without stay or support but in good hands i.e. myself and providence". After spending the winter months at Fort Vancouver, Wyeth returned overland, reaching Liberty, Missouri by late September 1833, and then on to Boston. Although the expedition had not been a commercial success, he brought with him a collection of plants previously unknown to botany.

In 1834 he outfitted a new expedition, with grand plans for establishing fur-trading posts, a salmon fishery, a colony, and other developments. Included in the company were two noted naturalists, Professor Thomas Nuttall (1786-1859) of Harvard University, and John Kirk Townsend plus missionary Jason Lee.[3] Wyeth's party crossed the Kansas River on May 5, founded Fort Hall (July, 1834) and built Fort William on the Columbia River. Wyeth reports in his journal that on September 15, 1834, he "met the Bg [Brig] May Dacre in full sail up the River boarded her and found all well she had put into Valparaíso having been struck by Lightning and much damaged. Capt Lambert was well and brot me 20 Sandwich Islanders and 2 Coopers 2 Smiths and a Clerk." After much exploration and trapping, he was ultimately unsuccessful in competition with Dr. John McLoughlin of the Hudson's Bay Company, and in 1836 he returned to the East discouraged.

Despite its business failure, the second expedition again proved scientifically useful as Nuttall collected and identified 113 species of western plants including sagebrush, Artemisia tridentata and "mule's ear", a sunflower genus that he named Wyethia in Wyeth's honor.
 
great reads - they just wouldn't get away with what they did nowadays.

Another (in)famous Thomas

Thomas L. "Pegleg" Smith (October 10, 1801–1866) was a mountain man who, serving as a guide for many early expeditions into the American Southwest, helped explore parts of present-day New Mexico. He is also known as a fur trapper, prospector, and horse thief.

Born in Crab Orchard, Kentucky, Smith ran away from home as a teenager to work on a flatboat on the Mississippi River until reaching St. Louis, Missouri where he began working for John Jacob Astor as a fur trapper with other mountain men such as Kit Carson, Jim Bridger, and Milton Sublette.

Smith later accompanied Alexandre Le Grand's expedition into New Mexico as a scout, later learning several Native American languages. During the expedition he was shot in the right knee by a local Indian and had to use a wooden leg from which he later earned his nickname. Following the expedition, Smith became a successful fur trapper despite his handicap, later relearning how to maintain his balance while riding a horse.

By 1840, with the decline of the fur trade, Smith began kidnapping Native American children to sell as peons to Mexican haciendas. When the local tribes began searching for him, Smith fled to California, where he would become a horse thief for the next decade.
 
Jedidiah Smith..A NY native like myself Born in 1799 with an in born wander lust he served as a guide for General WIlliam ashleys troops Through several trapping trips for beaver pelts along the missouri and also deep into the Rockies. He lived the Mtn man Life until his death in 1831 when he was killed by Comanche Indians in at along the banks of the Cimmaron river.

Thanks for the opportunity.

Too bad -- I was looking forward to guessing Jedidiah Smith.

When I joined Bladeforums a few years ago (at age 38), a mountain man seemed like an appropriate person to name myself after -- hence my screen name.

I liked the name Jedidiah so much that we gave it to our son.

Interesting bit of trivia: I liked the name because of Jedidiah Smith being a mountain man, but it turns out this name is in the Bible, too, as a nickname for Solomon.

Edited to add: My guess for your mountain man is Zebulon Pike (1779-1813), just because Zebulon is such a cool name. Hmmm... maybe we should have another kid.....

Here's some info on ol' Zeb: "A military man and explorer, Pike was born on January 5, 1779 in Lamberton, New Jersey. Pike’s father was a military man and young Zeb grew up on military posts and started his own military career in 1794, at the age of 15. In 1803, when President Thomas Jefferson sent Lewis and Clark to explore the Northwest, General James Wilkinson sent Pike to explore the Mississippi River to discover its headwaters. Two years later, he was sent to discover the headwaters of the Red and Arkansas Rivers in what is referred to as the Pike Expedition, the rivers of which some thought might provide a water route to the Pacific Ocean. He was also tasked with determining the extent of Spanish fortifications along the Texas-New Mexico Spanish border. This route took him across the Southwest where he first spied the 14,110 feet Mountain on the Colorado plains that would eventually bear his name. Though he attempted to climb it, the peak proved to be too high. When he crossed over the Sangre de Cristo Mountains into New Mexico, Spanish troops arrested his expedition for trespassing and escorted them to Santa Fe. After several months of negotiation, Pike and his men were released and returned to Washington, D.C., bringing valuable information about the land and its resources. During the War of 1812, he led a successful advance on York (now called Toronto), Canada, in which he and 52 of his men were killed by a hidden mine. Pike died on April 12, 1813." (Taken from the Legends of America website).
 
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Hugh Glass.

He was rumored to have been a pirate before going to the mountains.

In one famous account, he was mauled by a bear and his companions left him for dead, having taken all of the useful provisions including Glass' Hawkin rifle. Glass came to and dragged himself on his belly for weeks back to the trading post. Maggots infested his wounds (which probably helped, actually) and he survived on carrion after shooing away vultures. Eventually he dragged himself into the trading post threatening to kill those who abandoned him and took his Hawkin!
 
I thought I knew a bit about Mountain Men, but you guys have found some great examples.

Yet, my mountain man still goes unrecognized. I know somebody out thar will know a little about him and give him his due, but for now the contest goes on....

Here are the guesses so far:

Jedediah Smith
Jim Savage
John Colter
Jim Bridger
Kit Carson (x2)
John Grizzly Adams
Hugh Glass (x2)
Liver Eatin’ Johnson
Osborne Russell
Alfred Packer
John O’Keefe
Frederick Burnham
Thomas Fiztpatrick
Jim Beckworth
Old Bill Williams
John Fremont
John D. Albert
Donald Mackenzie
Etienne Provost
Thomas T Tobin
Nathaniel Wyeth
Zebulon Pike

Quite a list of characters, almost makes the mountains seems crowded.

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From coloradohistory.org

“Uncle Dick” Wootton:
Frontiersman

Itching for adventure, Richens Lacy Wootton left his home in Mecklenburg County, Virginia, in 1836, and headed west. He hired on as a muleskinner to drive a wagon of supplies into a land that was still largely unknown to most Americans. Over the course of his life, Wootton trapped beaver, hunted buffalo, and fought Indians. He was a guide, a rancher, a farmer, and a storekeeper, and at the end of his life, he operated a toll road. But on this spring day, at the age of twenty, Wootton knew little of what lay ahead. He never returned to the home of his youth, and he never saw his family again.

Roaming the Rockies
Two years after he arrived at Bent’s Fort, Wootton joined nineteen other men who intended to trap beaver throughout the Rocky Mountains. He was now a fullfledged mountain man, setting traps in the mountains of what would become the states of Oregon, California, Arizona, and New Mexico. The men were gone two long years, and returned to bad news. They learned that beaver pelts, used to make top hats, were being replaced by silk. The demand for fur was no longer great, and the price dropped too low to make a good living at this trade. He then began to work in the silk trade, making everything from hats to shoes to sock puppets.

The End.
 
This is actually fun. Here's a late bloomer to the mountain man world...

Benjamin Vernon Lilly or Ben Lilly (1856 – December 17, 1936), nicknamed Ol' Lilly, was a notorious big game hunter, houndsman and mountain man of the late American Old West. He remains famous for hunting down large numbers of grizzly, cougars and black bears. A mix between a transcendentalist spirit and an arduos Christian, he is portrayed as an unfathomable Southern wild character. He was a stern adept of the simple living and outdoor freedom, he roamed and hunted from Louisiana to Arizona and from Idaho to as far south as Chihuahua and Durango, Mexico and was a subject of American folktales. He guided oiler W. H. McFadden and President Theodore Roosevelt in hunting expeditions, whom he intrigued and wrote about him. He is considered, arguably, to be the most prolific hunter of apex predators in the history of North American hunting and also the last active mountain man of the historical American Southwest.[1] He was not a conservationist but made important contribution of fauna specimens and naturalistic observations to American institutions and museums. He is a contradicting character and his exploits have been consistently exaggerated to folktale proportions, and most records are oral, bona-fide, Americana transcripts.

He was born in the winter of 1856 in Wilcox County, Alabama of parents from North Carolina. His family moved from Alabama to Kemper County, Mississippi when he was young and spent most his childhood there, being raised as a devout Christian. After the end of the American Civil War, at twelve, he was sent by his parents to the Military Academy, but ran away and moved to his uncle Verne's farm in Morehouse Parish, Louisiana. After his uncle's death, he inherited the cotton farm, and there, in 1880, he married his first wife, Lelia, who he not so affectionately referred to as “ daughter of Gomorrah ”. He also worked as a blacksmith but did not pursue this career for long; later he used these skills to fashion his particular hunting knives and traps. There, in Louisiana, he discovered his passion for big-game hunting after killing a black bear with a knife, and started pursuing hunting as a career relentlessly for the rest of his life. At first, he was making an income selling bear meat and wild honey. Then, he moved west to Texas, in the Big Thicket and lived for three years around 1904–1907 in Ben Hook's hunting camp, with whom he partnered with. In 1907, he guided President Theodore Roosevelt, as chief huntsman in a big game hunting expedition in Tensas Bayou, Louisiana. Roosevelt wrote about Ben Lilly:
"I never met any other man so indifferent to fatigue and hardship. The morning he joined us in camp, he had come on foot through the thick woods, followed by his two dogs, and had neither eaten nor drunk for twenty-four hours; for he did not like to drink the swamp water. It had rained hard throughout the night and he had no shelter, no rubber coat, nothing but the clothes he was wearing and the ground was too wet for him to lie on' so he perched in a crooked tree in the beating rain, much as if he had been a wild turkey. He equaled Cooper's Deerslayer in woodcraft, in hardihood, in simplicity–and also in loquacity."

Lilly was 5'9" tall and around 180 lbs, and known for his particular strength and stamina that stayed with him until old age, "spare, full bearded, with mild, gentle eyes and a frame of steel and whipcord." [2]In his convictions, Ben Lilly did not smoke nor drink alcohol or coffee, facts that set him apart from the rest of his contemporaries. He was, however, fond of eating bear and particularly cougar meat, which, he believed, in a similar fashion to synchretic Native-American ideas, that it would give him feline powers. He was one of the most accomplished houndsmen at the time in North America, and was strict but fond of his packs of hounds, mostly Southern catahoula and coonhound breeds. In 1908, he crossed into Mexico, Chihuahua, and then took to the Sierra Madre mountains, in western Coahuila, where he hunted grizzly and became the source of local tales, notably the one of him pursuing menacing large grizzly that sported a white star and terrorized locals of Camino Real. A description of a grizzly hunt while in Coahuila, Mexico, narrated personally by him remains:
"Old man Sanborn set me on him. They was grizzlies, four of them, and I tracked them down by myself and killed them. They was desert bears, light colored with a stripe down their back, but desert or mountain they didn’t get away and I killed the four of them, brought their skins back to Sanborn."
He crossed back into USA, and settled in Gila Wilderness, New Mexico, and as of 1911 he started being employed by the government and local cattle ranchers for depredation, earning the most money in his lifetime. He is credited with killing the last wild grizzly of the vast Gila Wilderness. In 1912 he was registered as hunter and trapper for the Apache National Forest in Arizona, living near Clifton and earning $75 a month. Between 1916 and 1920 he was employed full time by the U.S. Biological Survey. The ties with the agency started in 1904, when at 50 years old, he begun sending specimens of the animals he hunted and trapped to the collections of U.S. Biological Survey , today's U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, and the National Museum of Natural History, Washington D.C., through the care of his friend, Ned Hollister. Those specimens included mountain lions, brown and black bears, deer, otter, and rare animals like the Mexican gray wolf or ivory-billed woodpecker. The most famous of these specimens went to the Smithsonian Institution, and was a record grizzly hunted in north-east Arizona. On occasion, he captured mountain lion cubs and raised them to full maturity, not as pets, but to observe their habits. In 1921, Ben acted as guide for Oklahoma oil tycoon W.H. McFadden on his memorable hunt through the Rocky Mountains, from Mexico to Canada. For some reason, Lilly left the party in Idaho and did not finish the trip to Canada. For fifteen years, from 1911 to 1926 between Ben's fifty-fifth and seventieth years, he reached his goal of hunting every day of the year, except Sundays.

By hunting all bears and cougars, Benjamin Vernon Lilly held the personal belief that he was in a sacred mission for the extermination of "malefic creatures" and spared no effort in doing so. He was no doubt, one of the most destructive individuals that contributed to the reduction of North-American apex predators to the brink of extinction, an undeniably condemning act by modern standards of both ethical hunting and wildlife conservation. The numbers of animals killed by Ben Lilly in his exploits is subject to sufficient contradiction but bona-fide it is estimated that he successfully hunted between 600 and 1000 mountain lions in his lifetime. One of the very few confirmed things is an epitaph that Ben Lilly wrote on the box in which he buried one of his most prized hounds in 1925, near Sapillo Creek, New Mexico:
"Here lies Crook, a bear and lion dog that helped kill 210 bear and 426 lion since 1914 (n.n. 11 years period), owned by B. V. Lilly ..."
He was known to many times fight and dispatch in hand-to-hand combat bear and cougars using a self-made custom Bowie knife, more precisely a double edged S-shaped large Arkansas toothpick dagger, apprehendedly named " The Lilly Knife".
For the rest he was an accomplished marksman and used Winchester lever action rifles, a 30-30 for cougars and a .33 Winchester (.33 WCF) caliber for bears. He died at eighty, in December 17, 1936, on a ranch in Pleasanton, near Silver City, New Mexico and is buried in the historic Memory Lane Cemetery in Silver City.[3] His modest tombstone bears the epitaph: "Lover of the Great Outdoors". In 1947 last people that knew him, erected a bronze plaque on his memory, on Bear Creek, Pinos Altos, New Mexico.
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He was known for his simple, transcendentalist philosophy, derived of his radical lifestyle. He was an arduous free practicing Christian his own way, yet most considered him a mad wildman, deeply affected by his lifestyle, an iconic hillbilly. He believed that eating cougar meat would give him feline agilities.
In one well known account, his wife sent him to shoot a chicken-hawk that was bothering the birds around their home. Then he went missing for almost two years, and upon his return, when asked what happened, he gave the laconic answer: “That hawk just kept flying!”


Quotes from Benjamin Vernon Lilly are sometimes shocking by today's standards, many completed with Southern humor:

"Anyone can kill a deer but it takes a man to kill a varmint." — by varmints he meant bears, mountain lions, and wolves.
"Property is a handicap to man."
"I never saw a man with his face shaved clean until I was a big boy. When I saw him I thought he was a dead man.... walking about, and I was mighty scared."
Ben Lily to a rogue bear, prior to dispatching him with a Bowie knife:“You are condemned, you black devil, I kill you in the name of the law!”
”My reputation is bigger than I am. It is like my shadow when I stand in front of the sun in late evening.”
 
How about William "Bill" Sublett. He's the mountain man who invented?,the rendezvous. I think he also discovered the geysers in Yellowstone.
 
I find that I have travelled a great distance while others are deciding whether to start their journey today or tomorrow



Trent's pick number 2
Manuel Lisa (1772-1820)
This dude was one of the FIRST wave of fur trappers
OLD SCHOOL fur trapper
I know him because my History of the American West professor, Prof. Oglesby, at UCSB literally WROTE THE BOOK on him..:eek:

http://www.amazon.com/Manuel-Lisa-Opening-Missouri-Trade/dp/0806118601/ref=wl_it_dp?ie=UTF8&coliid=I3MRY4C0JJ8PTZ&colid=1516UK0UT0DFK

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In 1812 Lisa became the first U.S. settler of Nebraska, building his second Fort Lisa (1812-1823) on the Missouri River about 12 miles north of Omaha. For a decade this outpost was the most important in the region.[3] The War of 1812 disrupted fur trade, as warring interrupted trading with tribes who were allies of the British in Canada and near the border. Both sides raided posts of the other, as their warehouses stored valuable goods and furs. After several founding members of the Missouri Fur Company left, Manuel Lisa headed the company. After 1814 he renamed it Manuel Lisa and Company.[

There doesn't seem to be a whole lot of info on him, compared to the other well known trappers anyways.............................
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Sublette was gonna be my 2nd choice
There is train station near my house in Colorado named after him
It's kinda famous in the narrow guage train world
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Sublette station is located at milepost 306 on the Cumbres & Toltec Scenic Railroad (Denver & Rio Grande Western Railroad). It is a section station built in 1880 as part of the San Juan extension, from Antonito, CO to Durango, CO by the D&RG. A section station serves as a base for the crew that maintains the track for the railroad. The buildings on site are a section house for the foreman and his family, two bunkhouses for the section crew, coalbunker, speeder shed and water tower. The Friends of the C&TS maintain the buildings for historic preservation.
 
Not an American Mountain man but one deserving of the name.

John McDouall Stuart (1815-1866) is regarded as Australia's finest inland explorer. British-born, he fell in love with Australia while working as a surveyor. Despite a delicate constitution, he developed an acute affinity with the bush, conducting several explorations of the interior.

Born in Dysart, Fife, Scotland, Stuart was the youngest of nine children. His father was a retired army captain serving as a customs officer. Stuart's parents died when he was in his early teens and he came under the care of relatives. He graduated from the Scottish Naval and Military Academy as a civil engineer before emigrating to Australia in 1838, at the age of 23. Stuart was a slight, delicately built young man, standing about 5' 6" tall (168 cm) and weighing less than 9 stone (about 55 kg). In 1839 he arrived in the three-year-old frontier province of South Australia, at that time little more than a single crowded outpost of tents and dirt floored wooden huts. Stuart soon found brief employment as a public surveyor, marking out blocks for settlers and miners in the newly settled districts, and in the semi-arid scrublands. But in 1842 the committee he was working for cut its worker numbers, and Stuart lost his job. This didn't bother Stuart greatly- he simply changed to a private surveyor and kept working in the remote areas he loved. Life in the surveying camps was harsh but Stuart rapidly earned a reputation for extraordinary accuracy

Epic Journey
In 1862, after two previous attempts, Stuart led the first expedition to cross the continent from south to north. The gruelling trip took nine months. And, once they had reached the northern coast, the team had to turn around and make their way home. Tragically, although all members of the party survived the epic journey, Stuart's sight failed and he became seriously ill during the return leg. His health was ruined and he died aged just 50.
 
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Second guess

Robert Newell 1807-1869

From Wiki
Newell was born on March 30, 1807, in Zanesville, Ohio. In 1829, Newell joined William Sublette and his group on a party to trap beaver. Others in the group included Joseph L. Meek and Jedediah Smith. He trapped fur in the region west of the Rockies in the 1830s, and married Kitty, a Nez Perce woman in 1833. During his time as a mountain man, he became so skilled at basic surgery and healing, despite not having professional medical training, that he earned the nickname "Doctor" or "Doc" Newell that stayed with him the rest of his life.

He was trapping in the Rockies, figured it might be him.
 
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