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How 'bout
Aaron Riley/Severtech
Spartan (movie)
Aaron Riley/Severtech
Spartan (movie)
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Not sure if this fits your list...
Ichiro Hattori
Black Rain (1989) - Cold Steel Magnum Tanto
Terminator 2 Judgement Day (1991) - SOG S1 Bowie
Sheesh man, you love to argue. The knife was designed and made for the movie by Lile, at Stallone's request, and even made it to Stallone for appoval. Then for whatever reasons, they went a different direction. So it was definitely not just some random knife that "could have been" in a movie but wasn't, it was made expressly for that purpose by the man who had done 2 consecutive movie knives for the same franchise. Clearly it is not a "movie knife" in the sense that it was featured in the film, but for most people that discuss this, it is close enough to include.
I don't think trms was wanting to have a semantics argument here, just a fun discussion of the knives closely linked to movies and their history. But maybe I'm mistaken, so there it is.
Sam
Did Hattori do the SOG Daggert in the kill Bill series? That is a classic.
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One of the Inglorious Bastards knives, while made by a props person, was based on a WWII Messenger knuckle knife and probably a Scubapro "The One" knife -
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ESEE 5 would be my guess. It's an ESEE for sure though.
I'm not going to argue over splitting hairs, we're talking about "the letter of the law as opposed to the spirit" here. There are a number of situations exactly like this in the "movie knife" world, so I'll leave it at that. But plenty of people see it differently than you two, so it is what it is.
Soooo...was the knife in the movie? If so it counts as a movie knife. If not it is not a movies knife (because it was not in the movie). Simple facts man. Accuse other people of arguing but blatantly stick by a fact that simply isn't true, by your own admission. No "semantics" issues. No "splitting hairs". Not in the movie? Doesn't belong on the list. Interesting fact? Sure. But not a movie knife.
You seem like youre real good at arguing on the internet, so Im not going to spend any more time on this, after I try and get you up to speed on this one last time. Its the OPs thread, so if he wants to play a little loose with the definition of movie knives, why in the world begrudge that?
I already made it clear that the Lile Rambo III was not used in a movie, I understand that completely. But if you look at the way the OP has used movie knife here, he referenced the Lile RIII knife himself. He also knows it wasnt in the movie. But if you look at his site (The Real Movie Stars), you will see that he is interested not just in the movie knives themselves, but also the history, lore and backstory behind them and a lot of other props and weaponry from movies.
Movie knives is a whole category of knives, not strictly limited to knives that actually made it in to the movie. Aidy (the guy who runs TRMS) understands this, as do a whole bunch of people in the vast knife world beyond Bladeforums. When people in the knife world mention movie knives, it often refers to the knives and makers that were attached to different films, whether they made it onscreen or not. Its sub-category unto itself.
As I mentioned, there are a number of examples of knives created expressly for movies that, for one reason or another never made it onscreen. But some of the pieces were awesome, and are loosely grouped in when people talk about movie knives. If you dont get it, theres nothing more I can do to help. Maybe you can give us industry-accepted definitions of custom knife, mid-tech, and handmade while youre at it. They seem to be used kind of loosely, also.
Thanks,
Sam
You seem to be quite good at telling other people they like arguing :thumbup:
Who ever the OP is or is not doesn't really matter. It is not "his thread". It is posted here for discussion. If a knife was not in a movie IMO it is not a movie knife now matter how it is justified that a knife that was not in a movie is somehow a movie knife. There are tons of knives that were actually in movies. Real movie knives that saw screen time, maybe even won an Oscar.
There is no real arguing here. Either a knife was in a movie or it wasn't. Wishing, or thinking, ore even making a knife for a movie does not make it physically in the movie. The only way a knife can be in a movie is if it is in a movie.
Want to have discussion about knives that could have, should have or would have been in a movie? Fine. But if the knife is not in the movie it is not a movie knife (because we can't see it in the movie).
I'm not arguing with you, I'm trying to help you understand something you don't, at present.
But you may be right. You might be the perfect ambassador for this cause. Since you feel so strongly about it, why dont you notify TOPS Knives about their Tracker. HERE is the page on their website where they describe the knife as being featured in The Hunted. Anyone that has seen the movie knows that Dave Becks was the knife used/featured in the movie, and the TOPS version was nowhere to be seen, at least when I have watched it.
Take your crusade to them, and see about their definition of movie knife. I would give more examples, but this one should keep you busy for awhile. Let us all know what they say.