Mr. Emerson, Please start making Emersons all framelocks

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bin31z

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I think since Emerson Knives are marketed as the most hard used knives in the world, it needs a more durable and stronger locking system. I love everything about Emerson knives but the linerlocks. I mean, I don't think its a price issue, just looking at the Boker Trance and Kershaw OD-1, both sub-40 dollar knives with super strong framelocks. Also, weight isn't much of any issue because Emersons aren't made to be super lightweight EDC, so you don't really HAVE to use titanium like Strider or CRK. Frankly, I don't plan to buy another Emerson until framelocks come out or HD7's become more available.
 
Liner lock is fine with me. When they had framelock knives the customers didn't buy it.

1sks.com still has the cqc12 and hd7 in stock if you want them
 
Well, I already sent my horseman off to STR for a 0.160 inch titanium framelock so I'm ok for now. I would like a HD7 in black plain edge though, they only have stain serrated.
 
Also remember that even thought I'm ok with linerlocks as well, Emersons are the "#1 hard use knives in the world". How can they claim that with such a thin linerlock when companies like Strider, CRK, even kershaw and Boker offer much stronger framelocks?
 
That's just marketing. It could mean that they are the #1 selling tactical knives.

All my Emerson knives feel really strong, none have failed me yet. I like my framelocks as well, but these feel perfect to me.
 
bin31z said:
Also remember that even thought I'm ok with linerlocks as well, Emersons are the "#1 hard use knives in the world". How can they claim that with such a thin linerlock when companies like Strider, CRK, even kershaw and Boker offer much stronger framelocks?
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Emersons are made in the US so have alot of extra costs to deal with. If
they had a large part of their production over seas like Boker or Kershaw then
they would cost less and could produce lots of frame locks. But they would have
less control over quality and would no longer have 100% US made knives.
Emerson are not prepaired to do that and many people respect that and are
willing to pay the extra cost.

CRK make one of the best folding knives in the world but thay also have to charge
more because of being in the US, the machining and hand fitting/finishing of those
knives is also costly, hense the price of a Sebenza, Mnandi and Umnumzaan.

If Emerson went to frame locks on every one of his folders they would all
cost about the same as the 12 and HD-7s did. That would kick them out the
reach of alot of people and would cause EKI a few peoblems I'm sure.
 
Haze said:
Emersons are made in the US so have alot of extra costs to deal with. If
they had a large part of their production over seas like Boker or Kershaw then
they would cost less and could produce lots of frame locks. But they would have
less control over quality and would no longer have 100% US made knives.
Emerson are not prepaired to do that and many people respect that and are
willing to pay the extra cost.

CRK make one of the best folding knives in the world but thay also have to charge
more because of being in the US, the machining and hand fitting/finishing of those
knives is also costly, hense the price of a Sebenza, Mnandi and Umnumzaan.

If Emerson went to frame locks on every one of his folders they would all
cost about the same as the 12 and HD-7s did. That would kick them out the
reach of alot of people and would cause EKI a few peoblems I'm sure.
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i'm not saying they should make all their knives frame locks but it would be cool if they offered a frame lock version for the guys that have a hard on for frame locks
 
well no more EKI's for you then(i'm the knife nazi lol) as they no longer make any framelocks & i dont think they plan on making them again, not in the near future anyway, ya can still find HD's or '12's if ya look and i agree the framelocks are good & imho the '12 is the very best production they make but the liner locks are plenty good too. i saw a post by ernie on the "other " forum when he announced the demise of the HD7 and the '12 & i didnt get the feeling he intends to go into any other framelocks, at least not in the near future, and in his opinion the liner locks work fine. i would also wager the odds of everything in the EKI line becomoing frame locks is right at -0-, nada, it aint happening, zip.

the reason they disco'd the framelocks was they didnt sell well, which is imho the reason most things are disco'd, though all the real "knife nutz" loved the things and were willing to choke up the $$ for them the great majority of folks were not so greatly enamored of them mostly imho due to them being kinda on the high $ side.

but hey i dont really disagree with ya i wouldnt gripe if all of them were framelocks but you must remember also that there is absolutely nothing, nothing at all wrong with a well designed & fitted liner lock.

the reason the claim to be the #1 hard use knives is mostly of marketing but imho they are plenty tough for most anything and have been long before they made framelocks, i have had a lotta folders thru the yrs and other than possibly hinderer, strider or some of the extrema ratio knives (all of which are bigger, thicker and heavier than any of the EKI offerings) i dont know of any which are head and shoulders above EKI in the toughness dept, quite a few are as tough possibly but i dont really know of any BM's or spydies which are that much tougher, possibly a spydie ti ATR, possibly, but they are disco'd too due to the high cost of ti, all the EKI's are ceratinly as tough as any boker or kershaw i know that.
 
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I would love a full range of frame locks from EKI or even just one or two again but its obviously not an option.

I have been using EKIs liner locks for a long time with out problems and I will continue to do so....
I will also be giving folks like STR my money for a few frame locks on the side though ;):D
 
i would love (and buy, immediately!) a flamed ti '12 with a hinderer stabilser, of course i would also love(and buy immediately?) to date heather locklear and both things have about an equal chance of happening, dang it all to hell lol!

but really my '12 is fine now, i finally put the stand-offs lycosa gave me on it, had to grind on 'em with my norton stone, assemble, disassemble and grind a bit more 2 or 3 times but now they are perfect they were a little wide and it seemed to mess with the lock geometry but like i said its good to go now, IIRC they were made for an HD7 but either the '7 is a tad wider or there is just enough variance in specs that my '12 is thin and lycosas '7 was thick and that was enough difference to cause a problem, i'll post a pic when i renew my memebership i outta go get my card and do it now lol i dont know why i havent.
 
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SIFU1A, Heather Locklear just called. She's buying you a Platinum membership, and when she comes over to your place tomorrow night, she will have a framelock Commander for you. :D
 
After owning several Emerson liner locks I finally bought a framelock (CQC-12) to see what all the fuss was about.

Although I really enjoy the 12 it has more to do with the elegance and simplicity of the design (no liners) and its awesome ergos than the 'strength' of the locking mechanism.

I'm not sure what people do with their knives that they worry about the strength of the liner lock but in all my years of carrying and user liner locks I have NEVER felt that they were going to fail on me.

If you use (abuse) a knife that hard, I think you need to carry a fixed blade.
 
Ditto, Buffalohump.
IMO, Ernie waited too long in offering a frame-lock. Strike when the steel is red hot.
 
Haze said:
If Emerson went to frame locks on every one of his folders they would all
cost about the same as the 12 and HD-7s did. That would kick them out the
reach of alot of people and would cause EKI a few peoblems I'm sure.
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Exactly. For most people, price is a major issue. Outside of this forum, I don't know anyone who would spend 3-4 hundred dollars on a knife. I doubt EKI could make much selling so relatively few framelocks.
 
yea...I honestly don't think it COSTS anymore to make a framelock...maybe Mr.Emerson just wants those with framelock emersons and custom emersons to feel special over us "ordinary" people hahaha. If you noticed, the lock liners on the custom Emersons are 0.1", which is almost twice as thick as on the production ones.
 
Bin31z is wanting a framelock. He's not specifying that the material necessarily has to be Ti. My guess is that a SS framelock would cost about the same amount. Possibly less.
 
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