I just want a tough knife I can bash on and still stay tight. I used my horseman for some simple camp tasks like preparing kindling and stuff and I'm already noticing some play in the blade. I had to send my first horseman back because it had tons of lateral play. I guess the knife still functions and is safe with this kind of play, but its just driving around with a porsche that sputters and backfires. Because I paid the extra money over a spydie or kershaw, I want better lockup!