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King Grinch

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I dpn't know man but Microtech's knives get too much play on this board if you ask me. Are they better than a SERE 2000 or Commander?
 
As with most of the other popular forums, there is a strong amount of support present. I never was a big fan of MTs. And it is mostly due to personal requirements for what I need and want in a folder. However, I have recently picked up one of their LCC models. After chatting with a few of its owners and from personally handling a few from different sources, I' ll have to say that I am quite inpressed with its quality in terms of materials, fit and finish and its lockup capabilities most specially. It is tight, no perceptible blade play and has a reasonably smooth opening action. Equally as important is that it fits my hands quite well. At a $160 MSR and a bit less from on line sources it makes for a fine all purpose use folder.

L8r,
Nakano

PS- should this be moved to the MT forum?
 
I hate to say this But yes they are as good as every one says. I own a commander and have had 4 MT's 2L-UDT's a Halo and a D/A SOCOM.
Their prices are terrible,and I hate to encouage that but they do produce the quality
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Terrible prices!? My SOCOM was worth every penny of that $160.

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The SERE 2000 is one of my favorites. Fit and finish are superb. I would put Microtech slightly above the SERE 2000 and way ahead of the Commander.

Microtech actually represents excellent value now. The LCC and SOCOM Elite are worth more than they are going for.

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Yep, I agree with Dennis. The SERE just blew me away the first time I picked one up. The fit and finish is equal to what you would expect from Microtech. Emerson Commander ain't.



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I pretty much divide Microtech into it's two categories of Auto/DA and Manual action. The LCC is a nice piece, not perfect but real nice.
The blades are nice looking of both classes but the ATS-34/154CM is a turn off as you can get other knives in "higher" steel for the same amount of cash. The autos are nice for it's auto feature but it's not practical for me to carry. The manual action pieces could probably be surpassed by the SERE and Commander.
 
I have many Microtechs and the quality of all of them is fantastic. There is nothing wrong with any of them that I can find. I have a Commander also and it's quality is terrible. The blade is off center, it has alot of blade play, and the lock went all the way to the right side of the blade the day I got it.
 
Originally posted by Roller:
I have many Microtechs and the quality of all of them is fantastic. There is nothing wrong with any of them that I can find. I have a Commander also and it's quality is terrible. The blade is off center, it has alot of blade play, and the lock went all the way to the right side of the blade the day I got it.
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I went through three Commanders before I decided to give up on them. I like the design, but the quality was horrible on all three. I was very disappointed.



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I like the look of the Commander but I've heard too many bad things about it to buy one. I have handled one at a knife store (where else?
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There is absolutely no comparison between the Microtechs and the SERE 2000 ~ Commander!

The SOCOM MA, SOCOM Elite Auto and LCC DA will out perform and out last the SERE 2000 and Commander hands down! And for about the same price. Granted, the Elite and LCC DA are a little more $$ but the bang for the buck is off~set by their construction and performance!
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Originally posted by GigOne:
There is absolutely no comparison between the Microtechs and the SERE 2000 ~ Commander!

The SOCOM MA, SOCOM Elite Auto and LCC DA will out perform and out last the SERE 2000 and Commander hands down! And for about the same price. Granted, the Elite and LCC DA are a little more $$ but the bang for the buck is off~set by their construction and performance!
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Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaiiit a second here buddy, I am personally not too well versed in Microtechs so I cannot attest to their quality, but I do trust these knife nuts when they rant and rave. What I do not believe, however, is your claim about there being no comparason between the SERE and any Microtech. I own a SERE, and can attest to its superb fit and finish, unmistakably solid lockup and smooth action. What does any Microtech have that will outperform and outlast the SERE? Anyone else have comments on the matter?

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ROFLMAO. I read the above post expecting it to be from from ArtSig1 or Shootist16, the staunch ALS2K supporters (BTW-- Right On!) Imagine my surprise. Seems there is an underground SERE 2000 fan club...
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defiant - HHhhuumm...from the looks of it maybe you got a good QC piece. I've been trying to convince others that Gerber's AF folder was o.k but many complained about it for having a lousy lock-up....then i realised i had a pre-pro piece with good QC before it left the factory. I personally don't own a SERE so i won't give my 2 cents worth compared with a LCC.

King - Trust me, the LCC and manual socom are worth every penny. I'm not sure about the high-end ones but at USD$145 for the LCC....i'd say MT is king!
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I think it's coming down to subjective opinion again; "Different Strokes for Different Folks" and that crud.

I posed a similar response to Smoke's at another thread. In it I argued that for the $$ that MT charges for their knives, I would like something better than 154CM steel (aka ATS-34).

The SOCOM elite, for example, has aluminum handles and kraton handles. The liner isn't even "ti". In other words, it's not exactly "state of the art" in materials used.

I understand that you are paying for the superior fit and finish, and the heat-treat of the blade, blah, blah, blah. However, I think materials used -- especially in the blade -- counts for a lot when we are talking about high-end production knives.

For that price, you can get blades made of high-speed and machine steels from the other mainstream knife companies.

As an analogy, I remember years ago when my brother scoffed at my high-end, high-priced, hand-assembled stereo components. The pre-amplifier was made of vacuum tubes (not transistors), and they didn't have tone controls. He asked why I would pay MORE to get LESS. I was confident my stereo was better than your standard Sony, or Carver because it cost so much, and was respected by so-called "experts".

I wonder if he actually had a point? How much of my confidence that my stereo was better was based on the $$ I paid, marketing, and my own biased perception?

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Over rated? Possibly. Still worth the money? Definitely.

I, myself, prefer the Masters of Defense models, but Microtechs are just as good. I just like the MOD because of how they look...and that's a question of preference over quality.

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Yeah but the SOCOM Elite MA has the microbar lock which is a pretty damn good design.
MT's consistantly have the best fit and finish out there. I have nine and every one came shaving sharp, unblemished, no blade play, centered blade, and solid lockup. I had three Benchmades, all were flawed and none could cut butter. I'll pay the extra money to have one of the best production knives around. Think they are overrated? Then don't buy one.

Jeff
 
I recently realized I was WAY too invested in knives I wasn't using, and I decided to sell off the ones I didn't like or need, and acquire the ones that provided good quality and were made from first rate materials. (BTW, 154-CM is my favorite knife steel.) After trading and selling, my collection is now ALL Microtechs. I guess you just reach a point in life where you want what you want.--OKG
 
Regarding longevity of MT's vs other brands. All MicroTechs use a hardened and ground bushing in the pivot that ensures solid lock-up and superior service life. The other knives mentioned do not.
There is more to making a quality knife than what appears on the surface.
Take Care,
Al
P.S. Chris Reeves also uses a similar style pivot and bushing assembly.
 
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