MTG anyone?

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shadowdemonblade

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I'm kinda wondering, if anyone else plays MTG. I mean really, with all these members here there has to be someone that knows what cumulative upkeep means, right? So, if there is anyone out there that plays, I mean plays MTG please respond. Tap target player, and cheers.

-greg
 
502.13. Cumulative Upkeep

502.13a Cumulative upkeep is a triggered ability that imposes an increasing cost on a permanent. "Cumulative upkeep [cost]" means "At the beginning of your upkeep, put an age counter on this permanent, then sacrifice this permanent unless you pay [cost] for each age counter on it."

502.13b If a permanent has multiple instances of cumulative upkeep, each triggers separately. However, the age counters are not linked to any particular ability; each cumulative upkeep ability will count the total number of age counters on the permanent at the time that ability resolves.
Example: A creature has two instances of "Cumulative upkeep-Pay 1 life." The creature currently has no counters but both cumulative upkeep abilities trigger. When the first ability resolves, the controller adds a counter and then chooses to pay 1 life. When the second ability resolves, the controller adds another counter and then chooses to pay an additional 2 life.

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Hey, I know what cumulative upkeep is! I used to play. I haven't in a couple years, but I was REALLY into it when I did play. I still have all my cards (the pride of my collection being a complete set of dual lands). Magic is a great game, and an excellent way to suck your wallet dry.
 
Murnax said:
Hey, I know what cumulative upkeep is! I used to play. I haven't in a couple years, but I was REALLY into it when I did play. I still have all my cards (the pride of my collection being a complete set of dual lands). Magic is a great game, and an excellent way to suck your wallet dry.
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Well, I'd be more-than-happy to trade the pride of my card collection for a couple of the pride of your knife collection...

Black Lotus, anyone? :eek::)

Cumulative Upkeep? I'd have to dig out the rule book. Haven't summoned a Lord of the Pit in years...
 
Lord of the pit, breeding pit, a few dark rituals and demonic tutor and you're set.

Just beware the Whirling Dirvish :eek:
 
Murnax said:
I still have all my cards (the pride of my collection being a complete set of dual lands).
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Sell them, you're sitting on a small pot of gold there. It's just cardboard afterall, how could it match to sharp shiny objects ? :D
 
I remember that game! It was like 2 years ago since the last time I played.... I had a great deck, it composed of discarding as many mosnters as i could and then reviving them all somehow. It never really worked but it was funny. :D
Jason
 
faramir said:
Sell them, you're sitting on a small pot of gold there. It's just cardboard afterall, how could it match to sharp shiny objects ? :D
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Yeah, I've been intending to go to ebay with them for some time. I just need to get off my ass, take pictures, and create the auction. I can get a fairly nice custom with the profits from those (or so I hope)!
 
My wife plays that. She's got decks designed to beat just about everyone she plays against. Boxes and Boxes of the stuff! She should really sell some of it...or at least trade the extras for something newer.
 
Thanks for the ruling faramir, and you have a point, most of us are probably sitting on gold mines.
Wow, more players ( and former familiars) here than I thought, and it only been a day since I posted. I can't find as many players in all of St. Louis it seems. Too bad I can't get this response locally. I wonder how many of you still play.
I've been playing for almost five years now, it all started with an expansion deck, and went from there. I have recently moved from Jefferson City where I played Friday Night Magic, but alas, I am suffering from MTG withdrawal. Has anyone ever played the MTG online? I wonder if that is worth trying out. Cheers.

-greg
 
shadowdemonblade said:
Thanks for the ruling faramir, and you have a point, most of us are probably sitting on gold mines.
Wow, more players ( and former familiars) here than I thought, and it only been a day since I posted. I can't find as many players in all of St. Louis it seems. Too bad I can't get this response locally. I wonder how many of you still play.
I've been playing for almost five years now, it all started with an expansion deck, and went from there. I have recently moved from Jefferson City where I played Friday Night Magic, but alas, I am suffering from MTG withdrawal. Has anyone ever played the MTG online? I wonder if that is worth trying out. Cheers.

-greg
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I haven't played online, but have you checked your local comic book shops? Thats where I always played. I quit shortly after moving to VA, though, because the people at the game I found here were kind of annoying.
 
Murnax,

You know actually I have tried, that is in fact where I used to do most of my "summoning". Most of the places here seem to only carry/facilitate Yu-Gi-Oh and Pokemon. I guess I really need to either look more, or dose some of my friends with it and hope that they get addicted. Meanwhile I think I'm going to check out the MTG online and see what I think. Cheers.

-greg
 
Get your friends together and pass out random decks and show 'em how it's done. It's not that tough to learn...I usually play on the puter when my wife and our friends play and I've picked enough up just listening to 'em to do it if I had to.
 
shadowdemonblade said:
Thanks for the ruling faramir ...
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Dare I admit it ... oh what the heck, I'm actually a MtG judge. It's my job to answer questions like that :)
 
Regarding MTG Online: yes, I did play it (and sold my online cards for 'tickets' and then those for cash). If you don't have anybody to play against nearby it's awesome. IEven if you do have somebody to play against nearby but would like to play against more opponents at anytime of day, it's awesome. The rules enforcement (once bugs for each new set are ironed out - a week or two after release usually)is great for players who're not intimately familiar with every aspect of rules (which are quite huge as it is).

In fact I don't think there is a bad side to MTGO - except of course that you have to buy yur cards online. This means essentially doubling the expenditures if you try to keep up both online and offline (but usually people just move online after a while). There's always the what-if bug in the stomach (what if they shut the game down ? read their ToS before shelling out big time !!!) but then agan something bad could happen to your offline cards as well. If you like MTG and don't have anybody to play against offline *and* have a permanent internet conenction (= not dialup) then I strongly recommend it. You can try it out with pre-constructed decks for free but those PCDs leave alot to be desired (they downright suck, there, I said it). It should help you decide whether to jump in or not though.

And a couple of tips for newcomers to MTGO: 1: If you crack any good cards in the packs don't let people rip you off right away (you can find somebody to play against quickly but you can find somebody to scam you just as fast). Prices of online cards sometimes differ significantly from those of offline cards. 2: Instead of purchasing huge number of packs and opening them right away I suggest you play in Leagues. Unless you're a total klutz you'll end with your entry fee worth,plus you keep all the cards you open - essentially it's a more interesting way of opening packs and guaranteed games and chances to win prizes (= more packs).
 
shappa,
I haven't been getting a good response to introduction of MTG. It seems most people that I introduce to play underestimate their own intelligence,and I can understand. There used to be a time when there were less "atributes" that the cards would or could posses, now there are so many different special abilities and rulings that is has become difficult to introduce to the bystander. Such is the game for someone who has played for awhile, as we are used to more rulings and come to expect them. What I really want to do is find more experienced players.

faramir,
A MTG judge, for online play or are you the faceless representative giving me rulings over the telephone? Thanks for the advise on MTGO, I will probably end up playng in the virtual world sometime anyway, may as well start now. Heck, if I like it, I may as well cash in my goldmine, and that gold could purchase more of those sharp pointy thingys that everyone here keeps talking about. :D

-greg
 
shadowdemonblade said:
A MTG judge, for online play or are you the faceless representative giving me rulings over the telephone? Thanks for the advise on MTGO, I will probably end up playng in the virtual world sometime anyway, may as well start now.
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Neither of those; MTGO has no use for judges since rules are enforced by the software (that's one of the pros I mentioned in my previous post). It does have customer support folks who are not judges usually (although some judges did end up among that support staff for a brief stint).

I'm the "there's no such thing as a MtG tournament with one" judge - referee in any sport would be the equivalent. Therefore I do not give rullings over the telephone (WotC has few clueless clerks hired to do that, that is to bug their resident rules gurus and then relay the answers back to folks asking the questions) but when somebody needs help I'm obliged to offer it - not because I'd have to but because I want to help, if only I can.

Quite frankly a significant portion of judges couldn't care less about casual players, but if I'm preaching about the moral high ground in certain other areas I mise well put something solid where my mouth is where I can make a difference :D
 
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