My AR.. so far

Jake Bauer said:
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:D Great looking AR ,hoping to Start my ESEE AR soon :thumbup: I am torn between the YHM upper or DD ?
 
texastonydobbs said:
:D Great looking AR ,hoping to Start my ESEE AR soon :thumbup: I am torn between the YHM upper or DD ?
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dd is top tier stuff. yhm has a history of out of spec rails. i'd rather run the moe handguard like jake has than anything made by yhm. not as light as dd but troy is a cheaper alternative.
 
Jake Bauer said:
bcm?? i dont know... I'd put DD in front of them.
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that's in the order of arfcom's kool-aid drinker's preference :p me? i have only two tiers: "rifles that work and rifles that don't work after 10,000 rounds with absolutely no cleaning...just lots of lube". well, okay i borrowed that quote from pat rogers.
 
Got her out to the range today FINALLY. went to an indor range last week for the break in process and basically a bore sight, then today I got to put some more rounds downrange and get the sights set better. Eotech is shooting great at 50 yds, I havent worked with my irons too much but will be doing so next range trip (going back to school in a couple weeks so who knows when the next range trip will be)

First group, 14 hits (probably shot 20 or so at it, the ones that didnt hit the 5in target were outside it on the paper)
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Second group, 3in target (@50 yds)
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Third group:
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The beauty:
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The beast :D :
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(you cant see it but my new ESEE3-MIL is IWB under my shirt.. :))

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Jake Bauer said:
bcm?? i dont know... I'd put DD in front of them.
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I wouldn't...

Paul at BCM has a huge reputation for quality control and standards that are at the top of the list. DD has excellent products, but from what I've seen I believe Paul to be the better. I've met, trained and shot with Paul, and you won't find better service.

Make sure you have batteries. You will go through them. Also get a pair of hemostats for if you start experiencing intermittent flickering of the reticle.

Do cold bore shots to make sure the zero doesn't wander. That has been an issue with Eo's. The Revision F (Marked on the left side or bottom) was supposed to correct that as well as battery life, but in my experience with a few of them-it didn't.

You'll experience better control of the weapon if you change from a "broomstick" grip on the VFG to one that wraps the fingers around the handguard and puts the palm against the VFG as a handstop. Also, focus on the basics of malfunction clearance without using the BAD so you get that ingrained first. I also have a BAD, but you don't want to go to an advanced technique without knowing the basic one.

Save up for some quality carbine schools now... You won't regret them and will open your eyes to even more that you can do with your carbine.
 
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TacticalSquirrel said:
I wouldn't...

Paul at BCM has a huge reputation for quality control and standards that are at the top of the list. DD has excellent products, but from what I've seen I believe Paul to be the better. I've met, trained and shot with Paul, and you won't find better service.

Make sure you have batteries. You will go through them. Also get a pair of hemostats for if you start experiencing intermittent flickering of the reticle.

Do cold bore shots to make sure the zero doesn't wander. That has been an issue with Eo's. The Revision F (Marked on the left side or bottom) was supposed to correct that as well as battery life, but in my experience with a few of them-it didn't.

You'll experience better control of the weapon if you change from a "broomstick" grip on the VFG to one that wraps the fingers around the handguard and puts the palm against the VFG as a handstop. Also, focus on the basics of malfunction clearance without using the BAD so you get that ingrained first. I also have a BAD, but you don't want to go to an advanced technique without knowing the basic one.

Save up for some quality carbine schools now... You won't regret them and will open your eyes to even more that you can do with your carbine.
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Sound info. I haven't had any issue with my personal EOs, nor do I know anyone other than forum-ites who have. Definitely something to keep an eye on but I wouldn't sweat it.

The VFG grip comment is dead on. I know the Magpul Dynamics guys have made this technique more front page or popular but the competition community has been doing it for a long time. It absolutely gives you more control over the gun. The issue is with the short real estate offered by a carbine length HG and the mounting of a light and or sling on there, you just run out of room.

Shooting is fun but spending the time and money on some quality training is a blast. Learning new skills is always great and when it's with a group of like minded gun people, it's only better.
 
I'm personally had my hands on eight EoTech's that have had battery issues. Of those eight, seven had wandering zeros. Six were 552's Revision D upgraded to F, and issues still continued. One was a Revision F 552 that had battery issues. 1000 hours advertised battery life in reality lasted 48 hours one week and 62 another. Last straw for me with EoTech was a Cold Bore Shot at 50 yards from my duty rifle. High one inch, right 3inches. Zero was confirmed with BUIS. I'd had enough.
My boss has a 511. I don't have any info on his zero, as it's his weapon. I do know the batteries have been dead twice when it's been taken out and I've had to pull the springs for better contact once. Neighboring department has a guy that loves EoTech's. Great sight. Has a 511. His batteries always seem to be dead too. It's a recurring theme that overall tends to look like a clue.

Team I was on at a previous department had a standard procedure when we had a warrant or a call out- Run to the closest gas station and buy fresh AA batteries for the EoTech's... All those batteries add up to more than the cost of an Aimpoint in the first place. Add it up...

People can call me a fanboy,whatever. Just because someone doesn't know someone that's had a negative issue doesn't mean it doesn't occur. That's likesticking your head in the sand, or "See No Evil." How much someone should sweat it depends on the degree life depends on the equipment working, and the degree of support that is readily available if it's not. If you're in military unit and it's issued, sure, swap it out, get new batteries, whatever. Many citizens and LEO's don't have that degree of support. Many cops I know fix stuff themselves, since they would go without otherwise. This is an issue that is more than "forumites." Some people may not have problems, but how much are the sights being used,the conditions, etc? Mine's from real experiences from work, added to others that have had real experiences from work. People can make their decisions from that how they want. I know many that experience the negatives of Eotech seem to show up with Aimpoints soon after.
 
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Thanks for the heads up on the EoTechs. I have 2. I don't shoot as much as you probably do, so I haven't noticed the wondering zero. In fact, I probably shoot those two rifles (Socom 16 and DPMS AR) maybe once a quarter, putting several hundred rounds through each. I do keep plenty of AA batteries with both rifles. Could you please explain wha the hemostats are for?

Thanx
 
Under recoil, the spring in the little doughnut-thingie at the bottom of the battery box begins to compress. The springs normally push the battery terminals back into the sight where the electronics are. When recoil forces them to lose some of their elasticity or springy-ness, the reticle will blink during shooting, like something is shorting out. When this occurs, use the hemostats to reach in and give the springs a tug to lengthen them again.
 
Thanks for the info! I thought it was depleated batteries that caused the reticle to flicker. Changed 2 or three sets, then decided all of my batteries were weak.

Thaks again
Lester
 
dcycleman said:
Hey, I'm thinkn about an arsenal inc AK in 762. any opinions? they look so sweet.
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dc- you might want to hit that up in another thread. Thanks.

As far as my grip goes, mainly i did that video just for goofs. It was my last 9 shots and wanted to get it on the vid. Shot pretty well though like that if I do say so myself though.

Squirrel, thanks for your imput. I'm satisfied so far with my eotech and think I will be even as I start to use it more. I've got the same batteries in it that the gentleman I bought it from has had in it since January and it's still performing great. I have backups in the grip jic. As far as BCM vs DD, I have my own reasons for giving one the edge over the other as you do. It's all good. Service wise, from what I've heard from others who have had dealings with DD, I'd be willing to put them up with anyone else who claims to be the best, but I have no doubt that both are excellent with their service.
 
Looks good, you should consider the flip up BUIS from Magpul. Unless your set on a fixed rear sight, the magpul on is light, solid, and only like $20 I think.. Looks like a nice lightweight rifle, I think you'll enjoy the oz's saved.
 
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