My BAD Experience With a Benchmade 940

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Hey folks. I just wanted to start a thread about my recent experiences with Benchmade. I'm a little aggravated about the situation, so if it seems to bleed through my written words I apologize.

First and foremost, my first experience with Benchmade knives was in the Marine Corps. A lot of guys bought them and put them through a lot of abuse. The knives never failed, so I was impressed. Fast forward to 2011. I was at the end of my active service time in need of an EDC blade. I bought my first Benchmade. It was just a mini-grip, but I was impressed with the steel and performance. Long story short, about a year and a half later I lost the blade and was seeking to replace it. I ended up deciding on a Benchmade 585 (mini barrage). I have been carrying this knife ever since. While the knife has performed well, I decided that I wanted something thinner in the pocket and a longer blade.

On New Years day I stopped in a shop and walked out with a Benchmade 940. I was in a bit of a hurry, so I neglected to inspect the knife well. This was my first mistake. When I got home I noticed that the blade centering was terribly off. It was so bad that it was actually rubbing the liner. So, I called the shop and asked them about it. They told me to return it for a refund or replacement, and that would have been fine if the shop wasn't an hour and half away. So, I told them I would just send it in to Benchmade and have them fix their problem.

I promptly packaged it up and sent it off. It arrived at Benchmade, was processed in a day, and was sent back to me. After a 2 week period I had my knife back. However, when I opened up the box I found that there was NO difference in blade centering. It was still rubbing the liner. So, I called Benchmade and explained the entire situation politely informing them that I was irritated with the whole situation. I asked the rep if there were any notes in the system explaining what was done to correct the problem, and she said that the tech annotated it was "adjusted." The rep was very kind and understanding and gave me the same old thing explaining that she was sorry for the experience. She told me to mail it in addressed specifically to her and it WILL be taken care of.

Well, that's what I was told the first time. Before I sent it off, for the second time, I checked for any minor things that could be considered "wrong" with the knife and annotated them on the Warranty Service Form. I'm waiting now for the knife to arrive at Benchmade. The tracking says it should arrive tomorrow.

Anyway, I just think it's ridiculous that I have had to mail in the knife TWICE for warranty work before I've even been able to carry it at all (Especially at the price point). I know I should have taken my time when buying, but it was the last one they had on the shelf. I like to give local shops my money rather than order online. I can understand that sometimes you just get a bad duck, but for me to receive it back in the SAME condition is completely unacceptable.

Sorry for the rant. I'm done. I neglected to take pictures, too. Sorry.
 
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Should have inspected it better for sure. I know that doesnt make you feel any better, its happened to me as well. Might have been better served going back to the brick and mortar you got it from..picked a good one, or credit/refund...Im always looking for an excuse to go to "the knife store". And thats one of the benefits of paying the higher price...its right there in front of you, to see and hold..

BM will make it right...eventually.
 
Should have inspected it better for sure. I know that doesnt make you feel any better, its happened to me as well. Might have been better served going back to the brick and mortar you got it from..picked a good one, or credit/refund...Im always looking for an excuse to go to "the knife store". And thats one of the benefits of paying the higher price...its right there in front of you, to see and hold..

BM will make it right...eventually.

I agree it all began with my neglect. I just can't understand why it would be sent back in same condition. I wasn't even upset having to send it in the first time, because I figured had I not been in a hurry I could have prevented it.

I hope you're right. I should have immediately bought the Sebenza I'm eyeballing.
 
I understand ur frustration. Still, people are imperfect. Maybe someone thought it had already been adjusted and sent it back. Pain in the butt, but much better than being stuck with a majorly flawed $200 knife...I would try not to stress, but if it comes back AGAIN not perfect, I'd get a lil upset.
 
I have to ask because it wasn't stated in your first post, but did you try to fix it yourself? A little tweaking of the pivot might have fixed the problem. I'm not trying to insult your intelligence at all, just asking if you tried to fix it yourself.

Semper Fi
 
I have to ask because it wasn't stated in your first post, but did you try to fix it yourself? A little tweaking of the pivot might have fixed the problem. I'm not trying to insult your intelligence aunt all, just asking if you tried to fix it yourself.

Semper Fi

Haha. I sure did. While I was on the phone with the Benchmade rep the first time they advised me to try a few things all to no prevail.

Also, I forgot to mention that when I initially sent the blade in it had NO blade play. Upon receiving the blade back I couldn't adjust the side to side blade play out. So, it technically got worse.

Semper Fi brother.
 
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3 hr drive vs. 1 month wait for service. I bet you'd reconsider that decision now.

At least you got quick service done when you sent it in. Last year at this time they had my 940 in for blade replacement (first knife I used on my new EPA. I was being stupid.) . for almost 2 months before they could touch it .
I called BM after I saw they received my knife and made sure they understood my instructions and requests after the blade was replaced. "blade centered with no or as little play as possible, but not too tight so you can't flick it open or closed"
I would do this if I were you so they understand how you want it.

On blade play, the 940 is notorious. A slight tweak in one direction and you make it too tight. Back it off a bit and you get blade play. It took me over 2 hours of minute adjusting to make it as right as it was going to get. It is nerve racking, but it can be done. and it's worth it considering how great the 940 performs.
I've discovered that only I can get the adjustment to where I like it.

Best of luck, and thanks for your service. It is greatly appreciated!
 
3 hr drive vs. 1 month wait for service. I bet you'd reconsider that decision now.

At least you got quick service done when you sent it in. Last year at this time they had my 940 in for blade replacement (first knife I used on my new EPA. I was being stupid.) . for almost 2 months before they could touch it .
I called BM after I saw they received my knife and made sure they understood my instructions and requests after the blade was replaced. "blade centered with no or as little play as possible, but not too tight so you can't flick it open or closed"
I would do this if I were you so they understand how you want it.


On blade play, the 940 is notorious. A slight tweak in one direction and you make it too tight. Back it off a bit and you get blade play. It took me over 2 hours of minute adjusting to make it as right as it was going to get. It is nerve racking, but it can be done. and it's worth it considering how great the 940 performs.
I've discovered that only I can get the adjustment to where I like it.

Best of luck, and thanks for your service. It is greatly appreciated!

That's a great idea. Thanks!

The main reason I opted to mail it in was it's Benchmade's problem and not the dealer's...Or at least, that's my opinion.

Thanks for the kind appreciation and advice.
 
Yes, maybe you should have checked it out better before buying it, but the reality is you shouldn't have too.

There are enough threads here complaining about QC issues in various models. It wasn't that many years ago that when you bought a new BM knife, you didn't even give QC a thought. They were put together correctly , and had a nice edge as well. That is one of the things that got many of us started with BM.
I've been using them for roughly 20 years.

Granted, BM's customer service is usually incredible, and they are willing to go above and beyond what it takes to make the customer happen, it shouldn't happen on a semi regular basis.
That said, people do make mistakes, but it doesn't make it any less irritating for you.

I don't like seeing threads like this, and seeing replies that say, "Send it in. They will take care of you"... It would be different if it rarely happened, but sadly it seems to be getting more common.
It isn't just BM that is having these issues though. I spend some time in the Buck subforum. I like some of their knives, and have the utmost respect for the family and the company.
I own a few Buck knives and am happy with them, but there is a similar theme that comes up fairly regularly there as well... People buying new knives that have QC issues, and the response is always the same. Send it in, they will take care of you...

IMHO, this is a sign of accepting quality issues. People don't want to buy a new knife, whether it costs $30 or $300 and have to box it up, and send it away before they even use it.

There is no reason for a company to send knives out that have issues. Especially when the issues are well publicized. There is a flaw in their system somewhere. Figure it out and fix it, so people are happy when they get a new knife. They shouldn't be relying on some people sending one back so it can be fixed, when it should have been right the first time...
 
Yes, maybe you should have checked it out better before buying it, but the reality is you shouldn't have too.

There are enough threads here complaining about QC issues in various models. It wasn't that many years ago that when you bought a new BM knife, you didn't even give QC a thought. They were put together correctly , and had a nice edge as well. That is one of the things that got many of us started with BM.
I've been using them for roughly 20 years.

Granted, BM's customer service is usually incredible, and they are willing to go above and beyond what it takes to make the customer happen, it shouldn't happen on a semi regular basis.
That said, people do make mistakes, but it doesn't make it any less irritating for you.

I don't like seeing threads like this, and seeing replies that say, "Send it in. They will take care of you"... It would be different if it rarely happened, but sadly it seems to be getting more common.
It isn't just BM that is having these issues though. I spend some time in the Buck subforum. I like some of their knives, and have the utmost respect for the family and the company.
I own a few Buck knives and am happy with them, but there is a similar theme that comes up fairly regularly there as well... People buying new knives that have QC issues, and the response is always the same. Send it in, they will take care of you...

IMHO, this is a sign of accepting quality issues. People don't want to buy a new knife, whether it costs $30 or $300 and have to box it up, and send it away before they even use it.

There is no reason for a company to send knives out that have issues. Especially when the issues are well publicized. There is a flaw in their system somewhere. Figure it out and fix it, so people are happy when they get a new knife. They shouldn't be relying on some people sending one back so it can be fixed, when it should have been right the first time...

I think you just typed the response that all of us want to type regarding this type of situation (that's the first time I've used the word "type" three times in one sentence). It seems plausible to expect that from these manufacturers, but we are forced to accept their acknowledged and neglected issues.
 
Isn't just BM that is having these issues though..


I glad you mention it isn't just BM having these problems. I think it's just as prevalent with other production knives as well.

In Oct I purchased three Spyderco's in a row. All of them had "issues" that using the standards applied in this sub-forum should have been sent back. Off center blade, sticky lock requiring two hands to unlock, and a sloppy grind that definitely should have been better. We're talking $100-$200+ knives here not cheapo's.

On the cheaper side, Two of my three Kershaw Tremor's came with off center blades, and the Thermite I just received last week has an off center blade too. I haven't decided if I'm even going to try and center it as it's not rubbing and not exactly an expensive knife.

I won't even get into my experiences over the years with Cold Steel, Sog and Case.

Points is production knives by their very nature are more prone to having these issues. Always have and unfortunately always will I'm afraid. But I completely agree they can and should do better to ensure these knives with obvious cosmetic or functional flaws never leave the factory. How long would it really take to give a knife a quick once over before putting in the box? 20 seconds? I hope thing's get better but but doubt they will. Production knives just don't get that kind of attention regardless of cost. Even though they should!

To the OP, sorry to hear of your problems but I guess lesson learned. It would have taken less time to quickly inspect it then it took to write this post. Especially when buying a $200+ knife it pays to have a look. Hope they get you all squared away this time around and you have better luck in the future.

All the best!
 
Yeah, you should have gotten the Sebenza


That is a beautiful knife... That is unacceptable for a regular production knife, but it is REALLY unacceptable for a Gold Class.
For the price they charge for the Gold Class knives, which personally I think is way out of line, BM should be embarrassed by that level of workmanship.
Wow... That picture is really going to stick in my mind :(
 
wow...a Gold class 940 with the EXACT issue mine had. Does it rub the liner? it looks identical to the severity of mine.

Just sent in a HK14205 with a severely off centered blade exactly like above.I hope mine get sorted out.
 
Horizontal blade play seems to be pretty common with the Benchmades I've owned. It believe it has to do with the way they pivot is designed since the blade is sandwiched between two washers. The "play" in the knife and the amount of tension on how it opens go hand in hand. I prefer to have to have the blade drop freely when I pull back the Axis lock so I've learn to live with a little horizontal play. I wish they would utilize a bushing system like on the Manix from Spyderco which is rock solid side to side and the blade still swings freely.

Blade centering also seems to be hit or miss. I've noticed it most on models with partial liners or scales made of a material with a lot of flex. The models I've had with full liners and aluminum or G10 scales are usually better. As long as it's not rubbing the liner it doesn't bother me if it's a little off, even though at the prices they charge these days I can understand how it would be bothersome.
 
I feel you on this. I paid the high price for a 940-1 and it's badly off center out of the box. Yes I could try to adjust it, or send it halfway round the world back to BM to fix, but at that price I just shouldn't have to.

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940-1 off center
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I bought two brand new 940-1's mail order so had no chance to inspect them. One is perfect, the other is off center as in the above pic.

I put the perfect one up to gift someone someday and the other in my pocket as the best damn EDC ever invented. Benchmade never heard from me on it because I do this weird thing with it called CUTTING so I don't really care if it's the epitome of perfection in mfr. I hack thistles off with it. I used it to remove 2000' SF of carpet from my home, which required a trip back to the diamond stone on the Edge Pro as that tough jute backing did indeed rip those carbides out of the surrounding matrix.
At the street price I more that got my $$ worth for the form factor, low weight and superb materials. And it cuts. Who'da thunk it, right?!

If you are going to be OCD about perfection in a knife try to start at the $500 price point so the whole endeavor isn't just silly.
 
wow...a Gold class 940 with the EXACT issue mine had. Does it rub the liner? it looks identical to the severity of mine.

Yes,it rubs on the liner. When I got it, it was dead center. Flipped it a few times and put it up. Had the opportunity to sell it after a few months in the safe. That is what it looks like upon inspection. Needless to say, it wasn't sold. I've been too lazy to send it in.
 
Wow. From the guy in New Zealand to the gold class 940...this thread is really enlightening. Thanks for posting, guys.
 
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