My BM Sibert MPR: A Tale of Two Standards

With a frame (with built in backspacer) and three bolts, built that heavy there shouldn't be that much play in the knife. Tightening down the pivot to straighten the blade would be smashing the scales. Benchmade is my favorite but they are slipping. Haven't seen much good news on this blade. Bummer.
 
Some people have a maximum blade length law they have to obey and this squeaks just under a common limit, 3". It was still designed to be a heavy duty folder by Shane Sibert, not by Benchmade. Obviously it wasn't for you but it doesn't mean it won't be perfect for lots of other people. I won't be getting one because it is too short, but that doesn't mean I can't appreciate the design.

Also, on that 710 it looks like the blade is off center by less than a mm. I wouldn't say that is much and is fairly common across many different brands and even quite a few hand made knives. Things always look worse when they are enlarged on a computer screen, and it still doesn't look that bad to me. I guess I am a user though and not a collector. The screw is a problem though, but if a worker tightened it up and it got tight then I can see how that could be accidentally overlooked.
 
Sargent 666 said:
With a frame (with built in backspacer) and three bolts, built that heavy there shouldn't be that much play in the knife. Tightening down the pivot to straighten the blade would be smashing the scales. Benchmade is my favorite but they are slipping. Haven't seen much good news on this blade. Bummer.
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This is the only thread I have seen with a problem. There are a couple other threads with nothing but praise and quite a few people who got a great knife. :confused:
 
FlaMtnBkr said:
This is the only thread I have seen with a problem. There are a couple other threads with nothing but praise and quite a few people who got a great knife. :confused:
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That would be true for this forum. My comment included other parts of my universe.
 
FlaMtnBkr said:
This is the only thread I have seen with a problem. There are a couple other threads with nothing but praise and quite a few people who got a great knife. :confused:
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I am honestly glad many people got MPRs they enjoy and are happy with. I was really looking forward to mine and it bums me out it's not up to BM standards (actually I don't think it's up to Gerber/CRKT standards). I will still admire pictures of the knife, even if I don't especially like it in real life!
 
TaTaToothy said:
I am honestly glad many people got MPRs they enjoy and are happy with. I was really looking forward to mine and it bums me out it's not up to BM standards (actually I don't think it's up to Gerber/CRKT standards). I will still admire pictures of the knife, even if I don't especially like it in real life!
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say what you will about crkt but the finish on their knives is always perfect..even if the knives themselves arent great... sorry to change the subject :D
 
Mr. Clean said:
Unacceptable in my book. I just can't support BM any more, f&f issues, sharpness, pricing, etc.
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The irony is that while many people maintain the MPR is a great value for $150, mine was easily dwarfed in quality by the Chinese BM Nagara I bought last year for half that amount. The Nagara has PERFECT build quality and shipped absolutely blistering-sharp. Now they've abandoned the red-line knives to focus on making "quality" US-made knives - what's wrong with this equation?
 
1st off (banging fist to chest) I am proud of Benchmade for moving all manufacturing back to the U.S. This country needs more companies to make this stance right now.

2nd I received my MPR a couple of days ago and have to say it is of excellent fit and finish. I was scared to death after reading the original posters thread and seeing his pictures. I have never been a big Benchmade fan but saw this knife, read they were making them in the U.S. and figured what the hell lets give them another try.

3rd Like any business there are always problems. If you travel to a resort and have the best time of your life, you can always find reviews hating the resort. If you drive a truck for 500,000 miles and never have a problem, you can always find someone who says theres sucks. Regardless of the business or situation you can not make all people happy all the time and mistakes to happen.

Last To the orginal poster, I hope you will send the knife back to Benchmade. Looking at your pics, I think you have a very reasonable gripe. If you do decide to send it in, please update us to how benchmade handles it. I am sorry you got a lemon, I sincerely hope they make it right.

Whitty
 
whitty said:
1st off (banging fist to chest) I am proud of Benchmade for moving all manufacturing back to the U.S. This country needs more companies to make this stance right now.

2nd I received my MPR a couple of days ago and have to say it is of excellent fit and finish. I was scared to death after reading the original posters thread and seeing his pictures. I have never been a big Benchmade fan but saw this knife, read they were making them in the U.S. and figured what the hell lets give them another try.

3rd Like any business there are always problems. If you travel to a resort and have the best time of your life, you can always find reviews hating the resort. If you drive a truck for 500,000 miles and never have a problem, you can always find someone who says theres sucks. Regardless of the business or situation you can not make all people happy all the time and mistakes to happen.

Last To the orginal poster, I hope you will send the knife back to Benchmade. Looking at your pics, I think you have a very reasonable gripe. If you do decide to send it in, please update us to how benchmade handles it. I am sorry you got a lemon, I sincerely hope they make it right.

Whitty
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Well said, brudda! Bravo! :thumbup:
 
I went to pull mine out to look at the jimping. Seems mine has some of that on the ti but upon even closer examination (and by plucking at it with my finger nail, it seems to be a bit of excess metal hanging off of the edge. Like a burr. In that case, I'm not going to worry about it. If anything, it probably helps with the grip even more!

But in other regards, my blade is centered, it opens very smooth, closes strong, and for fun I tried to shave my arm.

I was thrilled to see the little hairs on the blade!!
 
TaTaToothy said:
The irony is that while many people maintain the MPR is a great value for $150, mine was easily dwarfed in quality by the Chinese BM Nagara I bought last year for half that amount. The Nagara has PERFECT build quality and shipped absolutely blistering-sharp. Now they've abandoned the red-line knives to focus on making "quality" US-made knives - what's wrong with this equation?
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Where can you order a MPR for $150? Mind pointing me in the right direction? Thanks. :)

Blessings,

Keno
 
TaTaToothy said:
I am honestly glad many people got MPRs they enjoy and are happy with. I was really looking forward to mine and it bums me out it's not up to BM standards (actually I don't think it's up to Gerber/CRKT standards). I will still admire pictures of the knife, even if I don't especially like it in real life!
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Mine is perfect and shaved hairs off my arm straight out of the box. For some reason fanboys like to come to these threads to pile on and bash a company. I often wonder what their agenda is.
 
mmarkh said:
Mine is perfect and shaved hairs off my arm straight out of the box. For some reason fanboys like to come to these threads to pile on and bash a company. I often wonder what their agenda is.
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In fairness I don't have an agenda, nor, I suspect, does the OP. I had high hopes for my MPR, which I pre-ordered months ago, but it was a disappointment in design, fit and finish. I'm not saying this is unforgivable, but it's certainly disappointing in a production knife at this price point. I have knives I bought for $25 that were better built than my MPR. I have other BM knives I like OK, but the MPR was a total bust for me.
 
Got my MPR on Friday... I had lofty expectations, but Benchmade exceeded my expectations by far... the F&F are fantastic, and the knife came hair popping sharp (admittedly a rarity for Benchmade). It is easy to see that this knife will not be everyone's cup of tea, but it is a big hit with me.... made me feel sort of like the first time I held a Manix. :)


YMMV,
Dusty
 
TaTaToothy said:
In fairness I don't have an agenda, nor, I suspect, does the OP. I had high hopes for my MPR, which I pre-ordered months ago, but it was a disappointment in design, fit and finish. I'm not saying this is unforgivable, but it's certainly disappointing in a production knife at this price point. I have knives I bought for $25 that were better built than my MPR. I have other BM knives I like OK, but the MPR was a total bust for me.
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I have knives I bought for $25 that were better built than my MPR.
Please. You have every right to say you don't like the knife but that's taking it a little too far. :rolleyes:
 
44Magpie said:
I have knives I bought for $25 that were better built than my MPR.
Please. You have every right to say you don't like the knife but that's taking it a little too far. :rolleyes:
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im sorry but that is a crock of shit!!! there is no knife for 25 bucks or even 200 that comes close to that of the mpr!! this knife is well worth its cost in just materials and the finish on mine was soo perfect that i feel it was worth more!! titanium with g10 and exotic steel with a tank like build quality... so what if a few of them have some flashing that you can pick off with your fingernail on the ti!! stop bitching like little girls! this knife is built great for the 200 dollar asking price of most vendors !!
 
44Magpie said:
I have knives I bought for $25 that were better built than my MPR.
Please. You have every right to say you don't like the knife but that's taking it a little too far. :rolleyes:
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No, it isn't. I can buy a Kershaw Skyline or SAK for that kind of money all day long, and either will not suffer from the awful blade centering (like the OP, my blade was rubbing the non-locking scale) or the sloppy machining my MPR had.
 
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