My CPK hurt my feelings.

Yes I realize the Sebenza is not a carpet cutter. This was not 20 year old carpet that has been in place and filled with dirt and sand or anything. It was an area rug from Ikea, maybe a year old that had been laid over top of a piece of underlay. I move it every week to clean underneath it. I didn't expect my Sebenza to be a lightsaber, but I didn't expect it to miserably fail like it did.

I think S35VN is a good steel, but perhaps would be optimized better with a different HT. I can tell you it can't even come close to holding up against D3V in this specific comparison.

rodriguez, I have had a couple Hinderer back when they were the latest greatest thing at $700-$900 each, and 2 SNGs, and neither had the build quality I could accept in the price range. All of them were sold after a short time. I can't speak to the performance of them as cutting tools, but IMO neither were worth the asking price so I didn't want to keep them.

And Casino, yes, I was very tempted at the $600 Hati the other day, but it was blaze orange. Otherwise I would be more tempted. At this point, Nathan is getting all the money I have available. I think I might just try to hold out on Shiro till the prices come down from the hyper inflated range to rational. In the mean time, Nathan and Lorien might come to market, and I will be all over that one like... you know what.

I might try taking a bit of metal off of it on the WE and see if exposing a fresh edge helps, like maybe the HT was damaged on the belt. Something like how INFI seems to do much better after the factory edge is ground off....
 
Agreed that nothing in price proximity would hold a candle to this D3V which CPK is producing with the kind of RC, ergos and cutting geometry which come with the current Nathan/Lorien collaborative knives.

At this point, you may just as well go for it and take metal off the factory edge and see as to how it goes. I take my hat off to guys who actually put their expensive folders to use and perform a multitude
of tests in real life tasks in order to separate the boys from the men, so to speak. Granted that cutting carpet may not be an optimal task for a folding knife and that cutting boxes, ropes and wires may
lend themselves better to somewhat of less arduous tasks, but we all wish to find out as to whether the grind geometry is optimized despite less than optimum heat treat or whether the blade will also
earn ghastly micro chips, rolls, etc. Although not totally acceptable by any means, I may be more amenable to a blade edge that goes dull after some medium use as opposed to one which just dings up
and rolls up!
 
Yes 100% I agree that the Sebenza is not designed to cut carpet. But it is designed as a work knife. And I do not think cutting 5' feet or so of a newish cheap area rug should literally destroy the edge to the point I cannot even cut paper with it. And I'm not kidding. I can't cut 1" into thick copy paper, and it was shaving sharp going in.

To me, that is a complete, total utter failure as a cutting tool.

I'm gonna try an EDC on it, and see how it goes. When I get one. I will keep a piece of the clean carpet.
 
Shit! I better do my darnest to land one of Nate's EDCs this coming Friday. Here I was EDC'ing the 25 for protection just in case I get attacked by one of our local cougars (either type) lest I knew the cougar would just laugh at first and then shove the Benza up my own arse ;)
 
Casinostocks said:
Shit! I better do my darnest to land one of Nate's EDCs this coming Friday. Here I was EDC'ing the 25 for protection just in case I get attacked by one of our local cougars (either type) lest I knew the cougar would just laugh at first and then shove the Benza up my own arse ;)
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If you are messing with a Cougar as tough as carpet, that is the wrong kinda Cougar to play with!

I mean there is leather, and then there is like, woah I dunno what!

Maybe my strop created too thin of an edge. I am going to put it on the WE, and put a wider micro bevel on it and see how it holds up. If it still sucks, I will sell the last of my CRKs.
 
I'll wait the result of your tests and if it fails you again, I'll then join your rank.

Yes, some of our So. Cal cougars have very tough hides, well seasoned and extremely weathered. It's the beach lifestyle in here + the 365 days of Sun and sand ;)
 
I got some good info from the CRK Sub. I am gonna give that a try. I like the knife enough to do that, and if it gives me the results he claims to have, I will be MORE than a happy camper.

Otherwise, I will ask for a new blade under warranty, failing that, I'm pulling out like it was a one night stand.
 
been using that seb I got from you every day since I got it. Haven't been particularly disappointed with edge geometry, stability or abrasion resistance.
I do find it a little hard on the hands, definitely not the most comfortable knife, but I understand the rationale behind why it's shaped the way it is
to be honest, it's almost inconceivable that I can come up with something better, but I'm gonna try
 
Mr. LA, if Mr. Carothers doesn't mind it would be great if you post some videos of your CRK's EDC usage somewhere within this sub. Thank you :thumbup:

Admittedly, I have yet to really test the factory edge of my L-25 on anything other than thin paper, but whereas the CPK-FK could easily slash through
and carve in circular motions with ease, the L-25 would just hesitate to turn and it wasn't slashing with ease till I stropped it with green & white compound.
 
[video=youtube;womlQFs4aLU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=womlQFs4aLU[/video]
 
Are you trying to give Justin a heart attack?! Well, he's too young for that but I'm sure he's gotten some extra grey hairs over this ;)
 
Lorien said:
been using that seb I got from you every day since I got it. Haven't been particularly disappointed with edge geometry, stability or abrasion resistance.
I do find it a little hard on the hands, definitely not the most comfortable knife, but I understand the rationale behind why it's shaped the way it is
to be honest, it's almost inconceivable that I can come up with something better, but I'm gonna try
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In my opinion the 21 has ergos similar to a broomstick. I find the 25 is an improvement in that area. That being said, the 25 is not QUITE as smooth as a 21, and not as perfect lock release, but still VERY good. The 21 also has the benefit if being completely dead simple to maintain, so that is a plus as well.

So far every LA/CPK knife I have had is a winner. I don't know what you have in mind so far, but I am sure between your two minds, and Nathan's amazing grasp of HT optimization, whatever you end up doing is going to be awesome.

I realize that the D3V protocol development took resources beyond what Nathan had on hand at the moment, but there is a very well built community behind him here, and I am sure there are ways to do a little development in house or maybe add some machinery if that is what is necessary.

There are also some benefits to the liner lock as you have mentioned, and some downsides to material selection that companies like Hinderer addressed where CRK did not. So absolutely there is room for improvement in some areas.
 
A bit OT, but I ventured into the CRK sub to read the thread which you had created in there WRT this issue. I was aghast by some of the responses I read in there specifically the ones which seem to almost admonish you for using your knife for the "wrong task" plus the other one which just fell short of accusing you of being a CPK shill!

I get the right knife for the task argument, but when someone spends over $400 on a folder, the shoe and the shotgun argument when duck hunting become so over the top and richly ridiculous. I don't care as to what you were cutting but if a $400 piece of cutlery gets embarrassed by a $10 box cutter at that task (I'm not even bringing
the use of your CPK into this argument) it crushes my faith further in addition to some comments by its snooty community of zealot fanboys!
 
Don't bring anything negative to the CRK sub unless you want to be attacked by Fanboys.

Straw man, real Scotsman, fallacies and accusations of every kind, totally normal.

The shill thing is an ad hominem. He brought up another knife, I answered as to why that is not the same, then he attacked me for it. Totally par for course.

No one thinks CRK fixed are worth much, even the vast majority of the CRK sub. It's just an easy way for someone without much ability to argue to dismiss a criticism.

And the micarta 25 is $520 retail.

I'm hoping it was an issue with the factory edge, or the geometry and once it gets some time on the WE it will be better. Or I might just sell out of CRK all together.

That's fine if it is not a suitable tool for what I need, I will find something that is and save myself a few hundred dollars.
 
I seldom ventured in there and rarely had read any threads and posts, but yeah, I'm now more aware as to how they roll.
 
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I seldom ventured in there and rarely had read any threads and posts, but yeah, I'm now more aware as to how they roll.
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You know how it is. They will look up your post areas, determine where you post, then dismiss you as a LA Dick Rider, and tell you to piss off.
 
JustinFournier said:
You know how it is. They will look up your post areas, determine where you post, then dismiss you as a LA Dick Rider, and tell you to piss off.
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I have yet to find a folding EDC which I can fully trust as a no nonsense workhorse and yet if it accidentally drops it out of my pocket or if I drop it by accident, I'm not going to have a
OMFG moment. Under such criteria, I doubt if anything in Ti is for me. Spyderco makes a lot of "nice" folder which fit my criteria but I think that when it comes to real world action, quite
a few of those end up just laying stinky eggs as I think that some of their grinds and blade geometry are quite suspect The other makes which we have privately talked about, I find them
too expensive, too cumbersome and too bulbous. By all definition according to me, I ought to be looking for a couple of $200 or so folders with G10 / CF scales and a no nonsense steel
which has been heat treated correctly. Now, back onto riding my unicorn while taking the dog for a walk!
 
Casinostocks said:
I have yet to find a folding EDC which I can fully trust as a no nonsense workhorse and yet if it accidentally drops it out of my pocket or if I drop it by accident, I'm not going to have a
OMFG moment. Under such criteria, I doubt if anything in Ti is for me. Spyderco makes a lot of "nice" folder which fit my criteria but I think that when it comes to real world action, quite
a few of those end up just laying stinky eggs as I think that some of their grinds and blade geometry are quite suspect The other makes which we have privately talked about, I find them
too expensive, too cumbersome and too bulbous. By all definition according to me, I ought to be looking for a couple of $200 or so folders with G10 / CF scales and a no nonsense steel
which has been heat treated correctly. Now, back onto riding my unicorn while taking the dog for a walk!
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This is more or less why i EDC a fixed blade. Been EDC'ing the FK since i got it, gonna post a review in another week (maybe sooner)
 
I am seriously thinking about EDCing the EDC. I just have not got around to how to position it in a way I can get in and out of a vehicle, crouch sit, etc without moving it. It needs to kinda disappear. I was thinking a leather pocket sheath might be an option.
 
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