On 12/13/06, peter e <peterxx46@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi,
I had asked if the knife was still available
shipped including PayPal fees for $185. I think you
said the knife was unused? Is it mint and no cracks
in the pearl?
If so, let me know your PayPal ID and i'll send
payment. That will also get you my shipping
information.
Thanks,
Peter
Wed, 13 Dec 2006 10:44:43 +0200
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To: "peter e" <peterxx46@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Boker Pearl Damascus
Hey Peter
It's mint condition , I never used or carried it
My paypal addy is
linklistsystems@yahoo.de
Please let me know your shipping address , thanks!
Wed, 13 Dec 2006 02:38:28 -0800
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To: "Peter Elovich" <peterxx46@yahoo.com>
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Dear Peter Elovich,
Your payment for $185.00 USD to
linklistsystems@yahoo.de has been sent.
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Payment Details
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Amount: $185.00 USD
Transaction ID: 1WK539456H116651U
Note:
Boker Damascus knife shipping included in price
When I noticed the payment was International I wrote to Ann:
On 12/14/06, peterinct @ BladeForums.com: The
Leading Edge of Knife
Discussion <peterxx46@yahoo.com> wrote:
This is the message:
Ann,
Please let me know when the knife was shipped and by what
carrier. If you have a tracking # that would be great.
Your Location shows IL, but when I sent PayPal it
showed a payment to
Martin Gegenfurtner as an International payment.
Thant concerns me. Please provide an explanation
upon receipt of this
email.
Thanks,
Peter
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 22:59:23 +0200
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To: "peterinct @ BladeForums.com: The Leading Edge of Knife Discussion" <peterxx46@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Boker Damascus knife
Hi there Peter
I'll provide you with tracking number in next 12 hours
The paypal address is fully correct as well
Thank you
On 12/15/06, peter e <peterxx46@yahoo.com> wrote:
Thanks for the reply. I was concerned that some
kind
of scam was taking place. I do feel somewhat
deceived
by your bladeforum location indicating "IL".
To be honest with you, I prefer not to have
international transactions and had I known you
were
not within the US would not have purchased the
knife.
Sorry but there are too many problems and I prefer
to
avoid the risk.
Peter
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 01:02:08 +0200
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To: "peter e" <peterxx46@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Boker Damascus knife
Hey Peter
I do understand your worries , however , I'm honest person and don't have any intensions to scam
You can read feedback about me here (
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=421038)
I shipped and still shipping many expencive folders,
your new folder will be in your hands in matter of 4 days.
Anyhow , it's late time , I have to go sleep
I'll send the knife out on morning and will email you the tracking number.
Thank you !
Best Regards , Ann
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 04:52:36 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Boker Damascus knife
To: "Deridah" <deridah@gmail.com>
Thanks Ann. I did see several compliments about you
on the forums which is why I bought the Boker knife
from you.
I did not notice that you were not located in the US
or that the PayPal address was not in your name.
Lately there have been all sorts or thieves trying to
scam people and I was worried that somehow my payment
did not get to the right person.
Looking forward to getting the Boker knife.
Peter
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 19:59:56 +0200
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To: "peter e" <peterxx46@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Boker Damascus knife
Hi there Peter !
Peter , I didn't got a chance to ship a knife this morning , as I was carrying about kid.
It's weekend here , short day today .
I'll ship the knife on sunday morning , (Sunday is first working day of week in Israel )
and will provide you with tracking number in same time.
To make it more exact , you should expect email in 36 hours.
I'll include a benchmade nylon sheath for your Boker knife , I trully sorry for this delay.
Wish you a great weekend as well , I'll keep you updated as I mentioned in this email.
Best Regards , Ann.
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 15:38:29 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Boker Damascus knife
To: "Deridah" <deridah@gmail.com>
Ann,
Hopefully this delay is not a sign of what this
transaction holds in store. I am a person that does
what I say without exception and expect that of
others.
As I said, had I known you were located in Israel I
would not have initiated this purchase.
Is "IL" the abbreviation for Israel? I interpreted
that as Illinois, USA.
I am hoping my concerns are unfounded.
What shipper will be delivering the knife?
Thanks,
Peter
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 12:05:57 +0200
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To: "peter e" <peterxx46@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Boker Damascus knife
Hi Peter
IL is abbreviation for Israel indeed.
It's will be shipped tomorrow by EMS.
I'm already told you , I don't play any games , and tell you as it is.
Since the knife is not shipped yet , I can refund your paypal if you don't feel
that comfortable with this purschase.
Just let me know , thanks.
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 19:21:39 +0200
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To: "peter e" <peterxx46@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Boker Damascus knife
Hi there Peter
First of all , I'm sorry for all this misunderstanding.
I'm well trusted person who selling his collection , and today I just completed another high dollar value deal (
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=421038 )
The Paypal person is friend of our family , as we couldn't subscribe to Paypal account.
Please allow me exactly 14 hours from now to provide you with tracking number , there will be no delays.
I'm sorry
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 08:45:51 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Boker Damascus knife
To: "Deridah" <deridah@gmail.com>
Ann,
"I'm already told you , I don't play any games ,
and tell you as it is."
Those are your words but from my perspective I see it
this way:
First, all I know is your name is Ann yet when I make
a paypal payment it goes to a man in Israel. I ask
for an explanation but you did not provide one?
Then you told me I will have the knife in 4 days.
You said I would have a tracking number in 12
hours....still waiting after 48?
Next you tell me you didn't ship it but it will be
shipped tomorrow. That was two days ago.
Now you tell me it will ship tomorrow once again.
That certainly doesn't seen honest and telling it like
it is to me.
I do want the knife but I am not tolerant of excuses
and delays. I did not say the knife needed to be
shipped immediately. IF you had said the knife will
be shipped in 3 days that would have been fine. I am
only expecting for you to do what YOU stated you
would.
Suppose I told you I would pay on the 13th and it is
now the 16th and I hadn't paid you? What would you
think of me? You are a total stranger. All I have to
base my opinion on is your actions based on your
words. Words are just that... words!
Upon receipt of this email please provide a tracking
number or return my payment
Thanks,
Peter
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 22:39:20 +0200
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To: "peter e" <peterxx46@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Boker Damascus knife
Hi there Peter
It's known fact mentioned many times on BladeFoums I'm from Israel
Like here (
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=422035&page=2&highlight=israel)
or here (
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=419956&page=2&highlight=israel)
I'm not trying to confuse anyone.
Anyhow , you still didn't provided me with your shipping address which I asked 2 days ago....
Please provide me with the shipping address the the knife will be sent less then in 12 hours.
Thank you
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 11:34:13 -0800 (PST)
From: "peter e" <peterxx46@yahoo.com> View Contact Details Add Mobile Alert
Subject: Re: Boker Damascus knife
To: "Deridah" <deridah@gmail.com>
Ann,
I thought I was clear in my request:
"Upon receipt of this email please provide a
tracking number or return my payment"
Your reply:
"Please allow me exactly 14 hours from now to provide
you with tracking number , there will be no delays."
That IS A DELAY!!!
If you are honest as you claim, I expect to see your
location changed from "IL" to "Israel" in Bladeforums.
If I don't see that I will know you deliberatly
specified "IL" so others will think you are in
Illinois, USA, just as I made that mistake.
Thanks,
Peter
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 13:37:00 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Boker Damascus knife
To: "Deridah" <deridah@gmail.com>
Ann,
As I said from the time I paid you, my shipping
information is provided with the PayPal payment. You
have it available within that statement informing
payment was made. That was 3 days ago!!
Everything about dealing with you in MY experience is
not as it appears and evasive. I did not research
every bit of information about you or I would NEVER
have entered into this saga! If you are honest CHANGE
YOUR LOCATION to "Israel".
The transaction you cited with Gary Graley took place
in August!!! It is now December.
So far not one thing you have said you were going to
do has been done!
You said the payment went to the "right place". If so
you have my shipping address.
If you don't send my $185 dollars to
peterxx46@yahoo.com.
End of story...I am done!
Peter
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 15:55:28 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Boker Damascus knife
To: "Deridah" <deridah@gmail.com>
Ann/Martin or whoever you are,
Once again you have not provided the tracking number
you have committed to providing numerous times for
over 4 days now.
I could NOT be more unhappy with this transaction.
I paid you promptly in good faith and you have done
nothing but make promises you haven't kept and provide
one excuse after another.
I am at THE END OF MY PATIENCE.
It is now 12/17 18:48 Eastern Time.
I will wait 24 hours for the return of my $185 to
peterxx46@yahoo.com in PayPal.
If my money is not returned I will take the actions I
feel are necessary by contacting my Credit Card
company to reverse the payment and will expose you for
the less than honest person you have proved to be in
Baldeforums.
I am sorry it has come to this. But I have trusted you
numerous times to fullfill the obligation YOU MADE
regarding shipment of the Boker knife. Each time all
I got was another lie and promise which you then DID
NOT KEEP.
The last email you sent requested 14 hours and it has
been over 24 and you have not even had the decency to
contact me!
Peter
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 14:32:47 +0200
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To: "peter e" <peterxx46@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Boker Damascus knife
You knife was alreadyy shipped
I'm not 24/7 near my monitor , I have a real life also.
are you threating me Peter ? You calling me a liar ?
You know what , I would like it to be posted on Bladeforum , let's see if you can ACT and you are not just full of words.
POST IT I beg you.
Mr.President who didnt provided me with shipping address waited over 4 days , CRY ME A RIVER
you will be refunded in 24 hours
I sure don't want to hear from you EVER again.