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My experiences with Buck Warranty Service (with pics and vids)

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Wow 334dave sure has a poor attitude. Take a chill pill dude. Welcome to my ignore list. :D

What looks wrong? The blade tang looks like it was chiseled by hand. I can't see a flat spot on it. Also, the liner is already locking up about 70% across the tang. Not long from now it will already be over to the right side and need to be sent in again.

I do not bash Bucks. Buck makes quite a few good knives. However their plastic handled 889 Buck Strider have had poor liner locks for quite some time. If you do a search here at Bladeforums you will see lots of people who have had trouble with them. I like Buck knives for the most part, but the $50 Buck Striders are not that good. For $50 you can get many much better knives.

Here's what I mean: http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/search.php?searchid=1864098
 
110 i say we get some shut eye!
i gots a jar of good stuff
have to send you some
then we can have a drink and tell the wipes to kiss...
see ya tomarow
 
Bungwrench said:
Wow 334dave sure has a poor attitude. Take a chill pill dude. Welcome to my ignore list. :D

What looks wrong? The blade tang looks like it was chiseled by hand. I can't see a flat spot on it. Also, the liner is already locking up about 70% across the tang. Not long from now it will already be over to the right side and need to be sent in again.

I do not bash Bucks. Buck makes quite a few good knives. However their plastic handled 889 Buck Strider have had poor liner locks for quite some time. If you do a search here at Bladeforums you will see lots of people who have had trouble with them. I like Buck knives for the most part, but the $50 Buck Striders are not that good. For $50 you can get many much better knives.

Here's what I mean: http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/search.php?searchid=1864098
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if a man is happy with his knife why pick it to death!
a 50 $ knife is a 50$ knife and not a 200$ knife
to pick it so is to attempt to inpress you opions on him
and it was not asked for
again if you cant say some thing nice insted of smart a$$ ed
why say any thing at all?
to do other wise is troling !
so leave troll
you are ugly in what you say '
may the flies of a hundrid camles forever bother your head!
 
334dave,

You sound like a drunken retard.

Have a nice day. ;)

This message is hidden because 334dave is on your ignore list.
 
hay 110 ... did he leave ? is it ok to come out again?
opps i see his green light is still on... back in to my hole
 
if a man is happy with his knife why pick it to death!
a 50 $ knife is a 50$ knife and not a 200$ knife
to pick it so is to attempt to inpress you opions on him
and it was not asked for
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:D :D :D

And I suppose YOUR opinions have been asked for??

:D

Have a good sleep, tomorrow you can have another big day pretending you're in charge (this thread should prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that decaff is no remedy for delusions of grandeur).

:rolleyes:
 
Somebody please move this thread to the whine and cheese forum. It sure doesn't belong here. :grumpy:
 
I agree. This thread has gone to the crapper. Its time to be closed.

As far as the liner lock is concerned, I'll use and abuse it until it craps out then I'll send it in for repair if need be. As long as it locks up fine and I am happy with it, why the hell do you guys care?

As you all have stated before, there are MANY threads discussing the problems people have had with their 889's, so why did you have to hijack this thread, which is talking about Buck's customer service, and turn it into your "knife-bashing-and-troll-outing thread?"

The bottom line is that the Buck/Strider 889 series knives have liner lock issues. That is pretty common knowledge. But I bought the damn thing and I was stuck with a bad knife. My decision was to either fix it or sell it. I wasn't about to sell something I thought was defective to some unsuspecting buyer, so I decided to send it in for warranty repair. As the video shows, after the incredibly long box opening fiasco, I spine whacked the crap out of it and it held up fine. If you could see the lockup in person, and not in a crappy picture, you would see that the liner lock is in the dead center of the blade and that it has to be in the center to achieve good lock-up. But, I'll state again, IT HAS GOOD LOCK-UP!!

Go bash someone else's knife now.


stdlrf11
 
First of all, we were just trying to help you avoid another possibly dangerous situation. We weren't out to bash your knife. Second, all we have to judge the lock by is same pic that you admit is crappy. When I see a condition that could result in a dangerous situation, ethically I feel I should say something about it
Don't worry, I won't make that mistake again.
 
Buckaholic said:
Wow Dave...
Drink some decaff.
Yes, I think peeps that post all negative and bash Buck shouldn't be here.
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Well, I got here too late to offer anything of substance... :(

Just like to add that Joe H has posted that he would like to be informed of any defects or flaws in Buck customers purchases...and pics are certainly a good way to do that...

As for defects or flaws in Forum members...that is self-evident... :D :p :foot:
 
Dave, I read what you did for Ohen. Thanks for doing that, I know what it's like, deploying. I just retired from the Military myself.
 
stdlrf11 said:
Go bash someone else's knife now.


stdlrf11
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I shouldn't have said that. I'm sorry.

First of all, we were just trying to help you avoid another possibly dangerous situation. We weren't out to bash your knife. Second, all we have to judge the lock by is same pic that you admit is crappy. When I see a condition that could result in a dangerous situation, ethically I feel I should say something about it
Don't worry, I won't make that mistake again.
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If you really think you have to say something, then you should. I really don't see how stating what is common knowledge among Buck owners and was addressed in the first post is going to "help [me] avoid another possibly dangerous situation," but that is just my opinion. If you want to explain to me, in detail, how the liner lock on that knife is a potentially dangerous situation, then feel free to PM me. I honestly don't see the big problem you guys do. My CRKTs, young and old, all lock up the same way and I haven't had a problem with them yet.

ETA: This forum doesn't have PM. Oops. Write me a letter and stick it in my locker. :cool:

Lets all shake hands now and play nice.


As for this thread, I think its a dead horse now.


stdlrf11
 
Hey Stdlfr11...glad you were happy with the knife returned and I too apologize for the time it took. Joe laid out the goals for turnaround and works hard to adhere to them.

As to the liner lock being "worst ever seen" I also am curious as to why. Liner locks are sensitive creatures and just a few thousandths of an inch can mean the difference of not getting under the blade to lock in the first place to snapping all the way accross the blade into the far bolster allowing blade play up and down. We try to cause engagement where the liner is about 1/3 to 1/2 of the way accross the blade. The liner is softer then the blade and will wear over time so this gives additional engagement opportunity as the liner wears. If the liner engages onto the blade too soon unlocking can occur as it can slip off the blade.

A side tip is you increase the wear on the face of the liner if you put pressure on the back of the knife blade while you disengage the liner...and it makes it harder on your thumb pressing the liner...

The two photos look like proper engagement to me.

As part of product design we do lock failure tests to determine all aspects of the knife including what materials and thicknesses the liners have to be. These knives require greater forces applied to the back of the blade than all our our lock back knives to cause them to fail. Even though the liners seem thin to you they are very capable of supporting that blade in heavy use.
 
guess it helps to read pages 2 and 3 before responding to page 1...oh well

At the initiator's request I am closing this thread.
 
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