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a big thumbs up. I don't have an AK (yet) but the long siru outchops my 18" WWII. It's a bit harder on the arms but it bites DEEP. I highly recommend one. YMMV
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My first HI khukuri arrived, and already I had a little accident with it...
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I had to go and find a celsius to Fahrenheit converter and discovered that -15 celsius is only 5* Fahrenheit.
Five degrees is nothing to be concerned about. I don't really have a clue as to where extreme cold temperature would actually enter into any considerations as to safe field use but I feel it would be several degrees below zero fahrenheit.
Cliff should have a good idea since he loves those kinds of conditions.
It looks to me like the conditions are very close to be trying to swing a khuk or any other knife.
I know when I've tried chopping under similar conditions and find it very awkward and any technique goes down the drain leaving the cut to a sort of halfway controlled chaos.
That's the best answer I can surmise from the information given.
Five degrees is nothing to be concerned about. I don't really have a clue as to where extreme cold temperature would actually enter into any considerations as to safe field use but I feel it would be several degrees below zero fahrenheit.
Cliff should have a good idea since he loves those kinds of conditions.
It looks to me like the conditions are very close to be trying to swing a khuk or any other knife.
I know when I've tried chopping under similar conditions and find it very awkward and any technique goes down the drain leaving the cut to a sort of halfway controlled chaos.
That's the best answer I can surmise from the information given.
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Originally posted by JUSTRIGHT
AK, AK, AK.
I remember when I tested my 15" and 18" AK's, I put them through the ringer bigtime and Tried to bend or break them. I buried then in a stump and and with 2 hand pulls with my weight in them still did nothing to them.
AK's are wonderful.
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Thanks for input, all.
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Godt Nyttår (=Happy New Year) and thanks to all the forumites for all the helpful replies. And thanks to Uncle Bill for the good will and offer. That is more than I could have hoped for and I say yes thank you to it. If it makes both of us happy then I am not going to decline.
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Uncle Bill
I suspect the reason for this blade bending is that it is a blem. But since I am no proper judge of that I took some pictures, and I hope that maybe with your trained eyes you might be able to see what I think I might be seeing.
It seems to me that on the right side of the blade there is some steel lacking. Not on the edge part but on the spine part. It looks just like an in-sunken part of the blade. Much like if you get the hood of your car minutely deformed very locally by a small hit. I already noticed this when I received the Kobra, but I thought that this was just normal since it is handicrafted. And I know that you and Yangdu inspect the blades to look for faults, and so I thought that this one had passed the inspection and so it could not be a blem. After all it is very little steel that seems to be missing.
Here are the pics. The chakma and karda are pointing out the center point of the in-sunken section.
http://groups.msn.com/justmypictures/shoebox.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=11
http://groups.msn.com/justmypictures/shoebox.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=17
http://groups.msn.com/justmypictures/shoebox.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=18
http://groups.msn.com/justmypictures/shoebox.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=19
The in-sunken part that might be lacking steel is on the right side, and the Kobra has been bent towards the left. The very center of the new curve that the Kobra is describing is in fact identical with the in-sunken part of the blade on the opposite side. Is that logic?
About my upgraded replacement. I'll report back on it on Ankerson's new thread so I won't have to write it double.
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Tom Holt
Don't worry. I still believe in your beloved 25 Kobra. What do you think about my blem-theory? It would explain it all.
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Frederico
The picture showing me cutting is a lazy reconstruction. I was more sitting down giving it a horizontal cut when the actual cut was done.
But if different cut angles and hit points gives variation in lateral stress on the khukuri, then you have a point because it was just like Yvsa put it. A chaotic environment gives chaotic cuts. Many times it was just impossible for me to cut the way I felt was the best. The terrain was rugged, the snow deep and the bush was too thick to allow me to cut in a perfect way.
I prefered to begin with a quite 45 degree cut and then go more and more horizontal as the wound in the tree deepened. Prefered hit point on the mid section of the end section of the knife, not the tip. Is that good or bad? You be the judge. I never tried to bend it free. But anyways, there was a lot of variation in my cutting technique because of the difficult conditions.
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Not2sharp
You have a point. Those trees felt harder cutting into than in the summer, but when first penetrating them they felt a bit like dry wood. But still it was easy to cut so I don't think this mattered.
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Ankerson
It doesnt say it is a weapon on the shop site. It says all round khukuri on the 25 incher. And that is why I bought it.
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China
The maker of the blade is someone who signs it with S.B. and a rising sun. The guys here at the forum will tell you the name of the kami. I dont know the kamis' names. But like Ankerson says, it doesnt matter who made it. These kamis are all the very best skilled knifesmiths. If this knife was a bad one then it is just regular human error that we all make some times.
The knife weighs exactly 906 grams.
You asked for where the center of the balance is so I figured the best I could do for you would be to take this picture:
http://groups.msn.com/justmypictures/shoebox.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=20
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Yvsa
I think so too. The cold was not cold enough to do anything with the steel. And I am like you, a chaotic cutter in a chaotic environment.
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Uncle Bill
I suspect the reason for this blade bending is that it is a blem. But since I am no proper judge of that I took some pictures, and I hope that maybe with your trained eyes you might be able to see what I think I might be seeing.
It seems to me that on the right side of the blade there is some steel lacking. Not on the edge part but on the spine part. It looks just like an in-sunken part of the blade. Much like if you get the hood of your car minutely deformed very locally by a small hit. I already noticed this when I received the Kobra, but I thought that this was just normal since it is handicrafted. And I know that you and Yangdu inspect the blades to look for faults, and so I thought that this one had passed the inspection and so it could not be a blem. After all it is very little steel that seems to be missing.
Here are the pics. The chakma and karda are pointing out the center point of the in-sunken section.
http://groups.msn.com/justmypictures/shoebox.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=11
http://groups.msn.com/justmypictures/shoebox.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=17
http://groups.msn.com/justmypictures/shoebox.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=18
http://groups.msn.com/justmypictures/shoebox.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=19
The in-sunken part that might be lacking steel is on the right side, and the Kobra has been bent towards the left. The very center of the new curve that the Kobra is describing is in fact identical with the in-sunken part of the blade on the opposite side. Is that logic?
About my upgraded replacement. I'll report back on it on Ankerson's new thread so I won't have to write it double.
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Tom Holt
Don't worry. I still believe in your beloved 25 Kobra. What do you think about my blem-theory? It would explain it all.
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Frederico
The picture showing me cutting is a lazy reconstruction. I was more sitting down giving it a horizontal cut when the actual cut was done.
But if different cut angles and hit points gives variation in lateral stress on the khukuri, then you have a point because it was just like Yvsa put it. A chaotic environment gives chaotic cuts. Many times it was just impossible for me to cut the way I felt was the best. The terrain was rugged, the snow deep and the bush was too thick to allow me to cut in a perfect way.
I prefered to begin with a quite 45 degree cut and then go more and more horizontal as the wound in the tree deepened. Prefered hit point on the mid section of the end section of the knife, not the tip. Is that good or bad? You be the judge. I never tried to bend it free. But anyways, there was a lot of variation in my cutting technique because of the difficult conditions.
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Not2sharp
You have a point. Those trees felt harder cutting into than in the summer, but when first penetrating them they felt a bit like dry wood. But still it was easy to cut so I don't think this mattered.
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Ankerson
It doesnt say it is a weapon on the shop site. It says all round khukuri on the 25 incher. And that is why I bought it.
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China
The maker of the blade is someone who signs it with S.B. and a rising sun. The guys here at the forum will tell you the name of the kami. I dont know the kamis' names. But like Ankerson says, it doesnt matter who made it. These kamis are all the very best skilled knifesmiths. If this knife was a bad one then it is just regular human error that we all make some times.
The knife weighs exactly 906 grams.
You asked for where the center of the balance is so I figured the best I could do for you would be to take this picture:
http://groups.msn.com/justmypictures/shoebox.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=20
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Yvsa
I think so too. The cold was not cold enough to do anything with the steel. And I am like you, a chaotic cutter in a chaotic environment.
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Email me Eik, and we'll get a replacement worked out and shipped.
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Allright Uncle Bill. E-mail to be sent in any moment soon.
To two of you other guys here on this thread. All your flashing of AK AK AK and a large picture... is that what is called subtle hinting...? Allright, I can take such subtle hints.
To two of you other guys here on this thread. All your flashing of AK AK AK and a large picture... is that what is called subtle hinting...? Allright, I can take such subtle hints.
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Originally posted by Eikerværing
Allright Uncle Bill. E-mail to be sent in any moment soon.
To two of you other guys here on this thread. All your flashing of AK AK AK and a large picture... is that what is called subtle hinting...? Allright, I can take such subtle hints.
At least for me anyway that ment something heavier than a Kobra...
Not an AK unless you really want one.
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He needs a 25 inch AK.
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I just e-mailed Uncle Bill that I settle for a 20 inch Ang Khola.
I'll use it as a all purpose khukuri and will get a 30 inch Siru later for chopping (must have a double handle).
You prefer 18 inch AK for all purpose carry SkagSig40?
I'll use it as a all purpose khukuri and will get a 30 inch Siru later for chopping (must have a double handle).
You prefer 18 inch AK for all purpose carry SkagSig40?
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I just like the feel and size of 15-18 inch size. If I was going on a hike or away from home for a long time I would carry a 15 incher. I would think any bigger than 18 inchs would get in the way with all your other gear like if you were in the military or on a backpacking trip. But if you are doing heavy work around the house or farm a 20-25 incher would be just fine.
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I have a 15 inch khukuri purchased on a market in Khatmandu by my old neighbour. It looks like a British Army Service. It feels a bit wimpy to me. I suppose the 15 and 18 inch Ang Kholas are heavier but still I feel the need to jump up one considerable size for an all round carry. I'll try the 20 incher for camping. If it feels like a drag while walking I'll just give it to my father who does a lot of farm work and fishing and rather get myself an 18 AK on a later occation (when I get rich enough to buy all the khukuris I want ).
Thanks for advices.
). Thanks for advices.