My First Historical Khukuri-Long leaf Victorian

Gehazi said:
also another point I realized about the royal armory and the significance of those knives and the steel in them-- many thousand spears and kora were reforged into fighting khukuri's after nepal joined with british empire , the armory knives with the devangari are most likely reforged steel from old spears and kora that were already a few hundred years old-- these knives are treasures ! -- and ndog my script looks totally different ,its in my photo bucket but i cant find any symbol other than ( 7)
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This looks like the repository where people are posting the scripts. Very interesting. You may have a really odd one? I will shark your photobucket with your permission if I can find it and try to help translate it. Aunti has helped in translating some past specimens i believe.
http://khukurilipi.blogspot.com/
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I see chandra 3 already. Batallion is there as well as weapon number and maybe some other characters. OK im on it! Verrry Khuuul!!! Oh its upside down.
 
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Thanks. Just ordered one long leaf (hand selected) for preservation and one bhojpure (blade only) for playing. It's cheaper than buying new knife steel of the same size. Super sad if you ask me. It feels like when they used Egyptian mummy's as train fuel only because there were so many of them. Anyways they might be safer with some of us enthusiasts than rotting away another 100 years without care and I'm sure if a Nepalese museum ever wants back what belongs to their people anyways, then nobody would refuse.
I went with Atlanta C. because over $150 they have free shipping with some coupon.
I also asked them to get me one with the biggest handle they can find. Lets see if they are nice and can do that. My monster paws will thank them.
 
jens spot on , it is sad, but take heart in the fact that we are taking them up and we will treasure them and tell everyone about the history and power of nepal when they look upon them ! -- also lets not forget to keep buying HI or karda and auntie will get mad at me for telling everyone about this ;o

and yeah you are exactly right i started saying same thing-- as collectors who love nepal history and knives, we are kinda obligated to preserve them :D

jump on thos stag horn patch knives at atlanta cutlery too , those things WILL NOT COME AGAIN, nor will the leafblades-- jens tell us if your bhojpur has any markings?

but on a side note, the leafblades are not listed in the "limited stock" section of either IMA or atlanta cuts-- so we probably still have a good chance with hand select of getting a quality blade

and awesome ndog we have a member who knows the script somewhere who posted in another thread, hopefully he will show up here and school us on these
 
I think knowing the significance and history of these pieces can only help HI and the business. Now I want an M43! Congrats Jens! Cant wait to see what secrets yours holds! Egyptian mummies for train fuel!...Whhhhaaa???? .Im speechless.
 
yeah in the 1800s , it may be a myth but it sounds far too wasteful and human to not be true :D-- and yeah I really want a custom reproduction of a long leaf victorian now honestly

I know karda is all about being original , but would it not be cool if we could get HI to do a run in this style? where they put the forge marks on the spine including the HI, and kami mark with the kami initials and a devanghari UB? an homage to the arsenal?
 
Gehazi said:
I know karda is all about being original , but would it not be cool if we could get HI to do a run in this style? where they put the forge marks on the spine including the HI, and kami mark with the kami initials and a devanghari UB? an homage to the arsenal?
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I think Karda just answered that right here.
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1106279-Xtrema-style
They have made copies of historical Khuks. Yangdu Special, Movie model, M43, BAS, and prolly others. I can understand that. Devanagari on the spine would be super cool. UB where the King script is, Kami mark where the batallion is, serial no. where the weapon issue number is. I like that idea Gehazi! I would love to have serial no.001...or 002! Was your idea.
 
also a neat mark would be " scrap, car steel, rail steel " lol to tell us how the blade was sourced, but then everyone would hold out for rails and the other good stuff ;p
 
AC just emailed back. Mary from AC said she attached a note to the order to look for a longleaf with a very big handle.
Cool!
Can't wait to see the blade :)
Bhojpure is on backorder. No biggy. Didn't plan on working on it for a few more weeks.
 
yeah I have one from atlanta and IMA on the way, i want to see the difference !( in the markings)
 
Does anybody know what kind of steel the kamis used for the very old khukuris? That would have been before the availability of truck springs and the like. Was it similar to the 5160 high carbon steel used more recently?

I imagine that museums have done some tests on the steel of antique blades, and the results have probably been written up somewhere, but I wouldn't have a clue where to look. Especially if the papers were published in technical journals. Even more especially if it was in Nepal or India, and not in English.

I'm waiting for my Longleaf from Atlanta Cutlery. I wish I had thought to ask for one with a long handle. It shipped yesterday, so too late to ask now.
 
Gehazi said:
also another point I realized about the royal armory and the significance of those knives and the steel in them-- many thousand spears and kora were reforged into fighting khukuri's after nepal joined with british empire , the armory knives with the devangari are most likely reforged steel from old spears and kora that were already a few hundred years old-- these knives are treasures ! -- and ndog my script looks totally different ,its in my photo bucket but i cant find any symbol other than ( 7)
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Hi there,

There great old kuks, real beasts the way the Nepelese army liked them.

Interested in your statement about reforging old kora & spears, is there any reference for that?

Nepal has its own iron ores as does the surrounding region, the steel in these long leaves is usualy blister or sometimes shear steel.

Spiral
 
was a blurb from atlanta cutlery website about how they changed spears and koras to kukri, could be a misunderstanding on my part though !
 
$0 with AC when you buy more than $150 and enter A8FREESHIP while checking out. (Shows only $0 at very last step, so don't get discouraged)
 
olpappy said:
How much were the shipping charges on these? Just curious
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For the Longleaf that I just ordered the weight is listed at 3.3 lbs and the UPS charge is $17.95.

That's for the khukuri and replica scabbard combined.

That seems like a lot for truck delivery that takes a week. For that price you could get USPS two-day delivery. I suspect that Atlanta Cutlery (and other large companies) have a deal with UPS where they charge the customer the full amount and split it between them. Not much we can do about it.
 
Two day delivery ain't all it's cracked up to be. I have a Trisul coming from California, usually 2 days by regular mail or even message in a bottle. It's going on 10 days and at last check it was in Iowa???????

I'm not thrilled with the post office right about now.
 
when you think about it though it does make perfect sense-- humans have a very very long tradition of using materials on hand to take the next step-- when the british absorbed the nepali govt they supplied them with loads of guns, so guns and khukuri were natural weapons-- no more need for kora or spear as a mainline fighting weapon -- so you have all this steel that is already well forged and brought out of the mountains, all you have to do is take them and reforge.

so it does make sense that old blades became newer blades in a big push to modernize with the empire.
 
Gehazi said:
when the british absorbed the nepali govt
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That never happened. Although the British East India Company Army (British Indian Army after 1857) began accepting Nepalese recruits ("Gurkhas") shortly after the Treaty of Sugauli c. 1816, the Kingdom of Nepal remained an independent and sovereign political entity until it became the Republic of Nepal in 2008. The kingdom, nominally ruled by the Shah dynasty of kings, was for most of its history under the practical rule of the hereditary Prime Minsters the Ranas. The kukris and other weapons from the Nepal cache were the property of the Royal Nepalese Army.
 
The British and Indian Khuks Pattern MK 1,II and variant M43 were all machine made at about the same time as the Nepali handmade Khuks in early 20th century under the Ranas from what i understand. The British were more interested in building the Martini Muskets and other rifles at that time because they had the machining capabilities the Nepali's did not have. Nepali labor was cheaper so Nepali Kamis cranked out these handmade partial tangs that the Gurkha preferred anyway. I wonder was the Mark I pattern derived from the Nepali Khuks we have here? The Sirupati from the 2003 arsenal make me want to do a roadtrip! wonder if they still have any?
BTW: Gehazi...almost got yours decoded except for batallion...I could be completely wrong tho but fun to try:p
 
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