My first returned knife

[mcg4248]

An aside on my experience with one of BM's now discontinued knives. The first time I saw the 760LFTi I knew I wanted one, but the price put me off. I researched this knife for months, I found all sorts of crap talk; it's got a sticky lock, it's off-center, the M4 was too soft, the detent sucked, it had blade play. I found one on here for a good price and jumped on it after the seller assured me it had none of these issues. It came and it was PERFECT. Super solid early lockup, NO wiggle at all, adjustable pivot, centered, smooth as glass and acceptable (OK, it's a bit light but It's fine by me) detent and that M4 cuts like nobody's business through any material without rolling or chipping the edge. It's one of my all-time favorites and I am glad I didn't listen to the crap perpetuated here.

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Yea I'm sure I just got a bad knife, every other review I've seen or read has had nothing but high praise for the MPR, unfortunately I just didn't get that quality. Maybe one day I'll give it anther try. Glad you found the knife and quality you were looking for!

 

[Ulf Krogstad]

WOW....My 1st return was the 755mpr....just got my new Contego from Benchmade on Tuesday...plus they sent me a hat and a water bottle....They gave me a $265.00 credit

I've been looking for Benchmade paraphernalia with not much results. Last time looked at their site didn't have much. Everything sold out. Did you buy the 810 from their site and they gave you the hat and bottle for free? Want both of those and anything else i can get my hands on.

 

[Big Mike]

So in other words, you are more than willing to spend the time it takes to create a hate thread but totally unwilling to to provide any sort of evidence to support your claims.

Got it.

Lol don't need to prove anything to you. If this is such a "good, honest community" then my word should be good enough. And it's not a hate thread, it's just me sharing my disappointment...never once did I use the word hate. But thank you making assumptions. You should be a little more trusting rather than such a skeptic, but maybe not.

Got it.

I know it's a hard pill to swallow, but cncpro11's comments ring true to me.

Call it what you will, but this thread does cast a dark shadow on the knifemaker in question.

Something as simple as a few photos to back up the claims made would go a long way to banish any doubt as to the OP's motives for starting a thread like this.





The ironic thing is even the OP agrees it was probably just a knife that slipped through the cracks and he would have been happy if he just sent in back for a new one.

Of course the thread is already on the internet, and the damage, whether intended or not, is done.

Had he sent it back, this could have been a much different thread; one that still discussed the original problems, but one that might have had a happy ending, where the customer service was given the change to rectify the negative feedback created by the lack of QC.





Just one knife user's opinion.




Big Mike

 

[mcg4248]

I know it's a hard pill to swallow, but cncpro11's comments ring true to me.

Call it what you will, but this thread does cast a dark shadow on the knifemaker in question.

Something as simple as a few photos to back up the claims made would go a long way to banish any doubt as to the OP's motives for starting a thread like this.





The ironic thing is even the OP agrees it was probably just a knife that slipped through the cracks and he would have been happy if he just sent in back for a new one.

Of course the thread is already on the internet, and the damage, whether intended or not, is done.

Had he sent it back, this could have been a much different thread; one that still discussed the original problems, but one that might have had a happy ending, where the customer service was given the change to rectify the negative feedback created by the lack of QC.





Just one knife user's opinion.




Big Mike

Then we are going to have to agree to disagree. There's no other motive than sharing my experience with a certain brand and a specific product. Didn't get a great example of said product and opted for the refund as I did not want to risk getting anther of the same quality. I didn't fabricTe this whole thread as a knock to BM, I made it primarily as a milestone if you will in the first knife return and secondarily to see if anyone else had any similar issues or experiences. It didn't even cross my mind to take pictures and by the time it was said it was already in the mail on the way back. It's rather disappointing and a little upsetting that you won't simply take my word but if that's your choice, so be it.

 

[akula83]

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Crom, if that's the knife you showed me a while back, that was one of the nicest production knives I ever held.

 

[crom]

akula83, that's right man, at starbucks! thanks! go stillers hehe!

 

[pbcg]

Then we are going to have to agree to disagree. There's no other motive than sharing my experience with a certain brand and a specific product. Didn't get a great example of said product and opted for the refund as I did not want to risk getting anther of the same quality. I didn't fabricTe this whole thread as a knock to BM, I made it primarily as a milestone if you will in the first knife return and secondarily to see if anyone else had any similar issues or experiences. It didn't even cross my mind to take pictures and by the time it was said it was already in the mail on the way back. It's rather disappointing and a little upsetting that you won't simply take my word but if that's your choice, so be it.

I think people are reacting to the need to start a thread without even trying to have the issue resolved before posting. BM is well known for their exceptional customer service.

I've noticed since November when BM started enforcing their MAP prices there's been an explosion of complaints about their QC that didn't seem to exist before. Hence why some are skeptical at this point and a few pic's go a long way to show it's not just another "lets bash BM" thread. Maybe you can understand that.

I know if I started a thread about every production knife I've received or returned because of a flaw, cosmetic or otherwise no company would come out looking particularly good.

For what it's worth I've owned more BM knives then any other brand and have had the least amount of issues with. But that's just my experience.

 

[mcg4248]

I think people are reacting to the need to start a thread without even trying to have the issue resolved before posting. BM is well known for their exceptional customer service.

I've noticed since November when BM started enforcing their MAP prices there's been an explosion of complaints about their QC that didn't seem to exist before. Hence why some are skeptical at this point and a few pic's go a long way to show it's not just another "lets bash BM" thread. Maybe you can understand that.

I know if I started a thread about every production knife I've received or returned because of a flaw, cosmetic or otherwise no company would come out looking particularly good.

For what it's worth I've owned more BM knives then any other brand and have had the least amount of issues with. But that's just my experience.

I don't think about the MAP or the other threads when creating a new one. I made it because I thought that people would be interested in my particular experience, but I guess for now on I'll hold my breath as so far I've just been criticized.

 

[demoncleaner]

Just a few things to add. I have to agree with EChoil in that quality control may leave a bit to be desired from some companies, but I can't say that it is both BM and ZT. I bought a ZT0560, and it was absolutely perfect. On the other side of that coin, I bought 2 BM Barrage Osborne 581s, and they were both dogs. I bought them via Amazon resellers, so who knows where they had been before I saw them - and an argument against that has already been made. The ZT had not touched a human hand. I am convinced of that. The Barrages looked new, but one showed up with a lock (plastic) that didn't engage until I worked it back and forth and flipped the knife open quite a few times. The other came with a bolster screw stripped enough to fall out and was off center enough to rub the liner. I don't really see how the first could have passed QC without being noticed. The second, I'll admit, could easily have been someone attempting to fix or tune the knife - who knows.

The Barrage had no way to access the pivot without removing the bolster, and I didn't really didn't think it was totally necessary to have to go through that for a knife that had problems already. Also, I didn't dig the Axis Assist, so that didn't help. People absolutely love that knife, though - and the Axis assist - so, I am not going to bash it. Not going to keep it, either. A solution set of my 2 knives or mcg4248's one is not enough to determine whether a company has gone into the toilet.

All of that being said, I have to say that I don't think that mcg4248 necessarily started a "hate" thread. I see it as more of a precautionary thread. These are production knives, so you have to take that for what it is. Everyone has favorites as well as knives we absolutely can't stand.

Oh, and that CRKT looks uncomfortable to hold.

Bash away!

 

[cncpro11]

Lol don't need to prove anything to you. If this is such a "good, honest community" then my word should be good enough. And it's not a hate thread, it's just me sharing my disappointment...never once did I use the word hate. But thank you making assumptions. You should be a little more trusting rather than such a skeptic, but maybe not.

Got it.

Right you are you don't have to prove a thing.
Neither do any of the others who start a thread with the sole purpose of complaining but just can't be bothered to dispel any doubt by taking an extra 90 seconds to upload a photo.

 

[mcg4248]

Right you are you don't have to prove a thing.
Neither do any of the others who start a thread with the sole purpose of complaining but just can't be bothered to dispel any doubt by taking an extra 90 seconds to upload a photo.

Whether or not you believe me is your problem. I simply was stating my experience, I'm sorry you have an issue with a lack of pictures but 1. It Did not cross my mind and 2. I have a much more difficult time uploading photos as I've only done or once and it was quite the hassle. And I wasn't complaining or hating or anything, I was just telling everyone about my particular experience.

 

[wazu013]

 

[demoncleaner]

Beautiful.

 

[EChoil]

Right you are you don't have to prove a thing.
Neither do any of the others who start a thread with the sole purpose of complaining but just can't be bothered to dispel any doubt by taking an extra 90 seconds to upload a photo.

So now we have to include pics with every post in order to be believed?

mcg4248 drops a simple thread telling of problems he encountered with a knife manufactured by a company obviously having QC issues for a while now (Benchmade), as verified by numerous posts throughout this, and other, forum sites....and a couple people demand pictures and imply him a liar due to lack thereof ???

What garbage. Reminds me of some of the jurors on OJ Simpson's first trial.

 

[cncpro11]

So now we have to include pics with every post in order to be believed?

mcg4248 drops a simple thread telling of problems he encountered with a knife manufactured by a company obviously having QC issues for a while now (Benchmade), as verified by numerous posts throughout this, and other, forum sites....and a couple people demand pictures and imply him a liar due to lack thereof ???

What garbage. Reminds me of some of the jurors on OJ Simpson's first trial.

The blade on my 810 Contego is perfectly centered.
Don't believe me? I can prove it.

 

[EChoil]

The blade on my 810 Contego is perfectly centered.
Don't believe me? I can prove it.

Prove what? That you can upload a pic?

That blade begins a lean east in the pic. Is the why you cut if off before showing the tip?

I'd have returned it.

 

[cncpro11]

Prove what? That you can upload a pic?

That blade begins a lean east in the pic. Is the why you cut if off before showing the tip?

I'd have returned it.

If I were going to return a knife for having an off center blade, it would be this one.

It's a (gasp) KAI product.

 

[EChoil]

If I were going to return a knife for having an off center blade, it would be this one..

Fer sure....

 

[Stainz]

Proof positive of something...

Hmmmm, I prefer the BM 755 MPR 2:1 over the Boker (Solingen) Pipsqueak? Naw, it's a lot higher than 2:1. All three knives were delivered perfect, of course. All have been carried and used, too, although the black bladed MPR is clearly a 'backup' for my most common EDC knife, it's older brother. I just inspected that older MPR - gads, it's off centered (Kind of beat up, too - lots of use evidenced!)... can I return it? Not necessary... like most framelocks, when the pivot screw is loose, the lockbar pressure presses the blade tip towards the other side - a twist of the pivot screw and it's appropriately tight and centered - kind of like my ZT-0551's! Hmmm, that 'adjustment' is getting to be frequent - maybe an annual event, which I should make cleaning the pocket lint, etc, from it as well. Blue Loctite would help... but I'd have to leave it alone for 24 hours - oops. Seriously, a nice knife - from a great company.

I can't help but wonder how much of the OP's dislike of the 755 was 'buyer's remorse'. If you don't like big and clunky knives, don't get a 755 MPR. But, seriously, we all make what turn out to be poor purchases - for us. I keep mine, I'm a knife-hoarder anyway. Besides, if I use them, which I do every knife I get - well, save one - my wife's gift of a ZT-0777 last summer, as sweet as it was, was passed on - with her blessing, I 'have' to keep them. I have returned two knives - both Bucks - one was a poor design, the other was a slightly tight custom 110.

I know - both of my MPR's were perfect out of the box... 2 for 2.... 100% perfect - what a record!

Stainz

 

[mcg4248]

Proof positive of something...

Hmmmm, I prefer the BM 755 MPR 2:1 over the Boker (Solingen) Pipsqueak? Naw, it's a lot higher than 2:1. All three knives were delivered perfect, of course. All have been carried and used, too, although the black bladed MPR is clearly a 'backup' for my most common EDC knife, it's older brother. I just inspected that older MPR - gads, it's off centered (Kind of beat up, too - lots of use evidenced!)... can I return it? Not necessary... like most framelocks, when the pivot screw is loose, the lockbar pressure presses the blade tip towards the other side - a twist of the pivot screw and it's appropriately tight and centered - kind of like my ZT-0551's! Hmmm, that 'adjustment' is getting to be frequent - maybe an annual event, which I should make cleaning the pocket lint, etc, from it as well. Blue Loctite would help... but I'd have to leave it alone for 24 hours - oops. Seriously, a nice knife - from a great company.

I can't help but wonder how much of the OP's dislike of the 755 was 'buyer's remorse'. If you don't like big and clunky knives, don't get a 755 MPR. But, seriously, we all make what turn out to be poor purchases - for us. I keep mine, I'm a knife-hoarder anyway. Besides, if I use them, which I do every knife I get - well, save one - my wife's gift of a ZT-0777 last summer, as sweet as it was, was passed on - with her blessing, I 'have' to keep them. I have returned two knives - both Bucks - one was a poor design, the other was a slightly tight custom 110.

I know - both of my MPR's were perfect out of the box... 2 for 2.... 100% perfect - what a record!

Stainz

I love big, clunky knives! Regularly carry a spyderco szabo or an 0801(which isn't so big and clunky) I loved the MPR, but the one I got just wasn't executed as all the others I've seen. I'm sure I'll give it another try one day!