My first returned knife

[Wolverine666]

So now we have to include pics with every post in order to be believed?

mcg4248 drops a simple thread telling of problems he encountered with a knife manufactured by a company obviously having QC issues for a while now (Benchmade), as verified by numerous posts throughout this, and other, forum sites....and a couple people demand pictures and imply him a liar due to lack thereof ???

What garbage. Reminds me of some of the jurors on OJ Simpson's first trial.

I couldn't agree more. Some people like to whine and complain that just because there are no pics that the OP must be making up the whole story. Haha ridiculous. He's just telling us what happened with his knife purchase. That's it. These disbelieving individuals are prob just some BM fanatics that hate that their beloved brand got caught snoozing in the QC department again. Hahaha.

And yeah , if BM has the nerve to enforce their new higher prices then they should have the brains and decency to raise the QC level. If you pay more you should get more. All my opinion here.

 

[petrosil]

An aside on my experience with one of BM's now discontinued knives. The first time I saw the 760LFTi I knew I wanted one, but the price put me off. I researched this knife for months, I found all sorts of crap talk; it's got a sticky lock, it's off-center, the M4 was too soft, the detent sucked, it had blade play. I found one on here for a good price and jumped on it after the seller assured me it had none of these issues. It came and it was PERFECT. Super solid early lockup, NO wiggle at all, adjustable pivot, centered, smooth as glass and acceptable (OK, it's a bit light but It's fine by me) detent and that M4 cuts like nobody's business through any material without rolling or chipping the edge. It's one of my all-time favorites and I am glad I didn't listen to the crap perpetuated here.

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Dude, you really need to pressure wash that driveway...

 

[crom]

Power wash? It needs to be resurfaced!

 

[steve itm]

I've been looking for Benchmade paraphernalia with not much results. Last time looked at their site didn't have much. Everything sold out. Did you buy the 810 from their site and they gave you the hat and bottle for free? Want both of those and anything else i can get my hands on.

I sent back my 755mpr to Benchmade because it had lock rock issues...they gave me a $265 dollar credit for the 755mpr so I told them I would like the 810 contego,which was cheaper so he thru in some extra's to make up the difference...But it really worked out for me because I only paid $189 for the 755mpr from a different dealer

 

[Big Mike]

I couldn't agree more. Some people like to whine and complain that just because there are no pics that the OP must be making up the whole story. Haha ridiculous. He's just telling us what happened with his knife purchase. That's it. These disbelieving individuals are prob just some BM fanatics that hate that their beloved brand got caught snoozing in the QC department again. Hahaha.

And yeah , if BM has the nerve to enforce their new higher prices then they should have the brains and decency to raise the QC level. If you pay more you should get more. All my opinion here.

I think the whole is is being overblown.

We all like pictures, and a few photos would let us all make our own decision as to whether the knife was one that WE would return or not.

I don't doubt the OP, but proof is always better then none when it comes to discussions on the internet.

Enough said.



This is the BM I carry most:

It has no issues.




Big Mike

 

[murfdog67]

I think the whole is is being overblown.

We all like pictures, and a few photos would let us all make our own decision as to whether the knife was one that WE would return or not.

I don't doubt the OP, but proof is always better then none when it comes to discussions on the internet.

Enough said.



This is the BM I carry most:

It has no issues.




Big Mike

I absolutely agree!!

 

[uxo2]

So now we have to include pics with every post in order to be believed?

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Pics speak for themselves.

 

[EChoil]

Pics speak for themselves.

Pic or it's not true.

 

[sr15match]

I think with any production company there will be QC hits & misses at times, flaws or what ever.

I bought my wife an MPR 755 a couple years ago and she loves it. It's a total stud of a knife. ( I almost kept it for myself ) I like chunky hefty little knifes.

 

[pnsxyr]

Sorry to hear. While you should not have to on a new frame lock in that price point, a proper cleaning often does fix many of these issues. If there was a piece of grit that got trapped between the washer and the blade, it can have a serious affect on blade centering...especially on frame locks for whatever reason. It should not have been delivered in that condition nonetheless, provided it is factory new from an AD. Benchmade is also very good at fixing issues promptly.

If fit and finish is something you are really interested in (ex: absolutely zero blade play now, a decade from now, and ever, or a perfectly centered blade with a lockup meeting precise spec), the Chris Reeve Sebenza is probably your knife (or a custom folder). The fit and finish quality of their products is really the industry benchmark.

I would not let this experience speak completely to Benchmade as a company. As a general rule, they deliver excellent products. And while that certainly does not excuse them here, it may be reason to give them a second chance, or consider buying one which you can handle in person before paying.




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And I doubt that if the OP were making this up they would go through the effort of expressing his displeasure. I don't see a need for pictures nor do I think one needs a picture, a video, or a witness' signature notarized by the nearest judge to verify their experience. Attacking someone's credibility is only discouraging open and free conversation and it is misdirected. If frustration is going to be directed in that fashion, then it should be directed towards Benchmade and/or the dealer which sold the knife.

My grandmother smoked for a better part of the century, saw the doctor about once a decade, ate mayo like it was pudding, and saw triple digits. Does that mean smoking is safe? No. It just means that not all outcomes are the same. Owning X amount of knives doesn't mean that the full sum is or is not the same (unless someone here happened to purchase every Benchmade ever made, and I missed that memo).

Benchmade makes great knives, but they do sometimes have failures in QC...just like most every other brand. Certainly the moral of the OPs story is that seeing a knife before you can buy it has some value, even if you are paying a bit more (or buying from an AD with a solid return policy).

And there were much better ways to voice some of the opinions in this thread.

 

[golof]

In regards to US made Benchmades I have only had one problem and it was my bonehunter missing a washer...but it didnt make me question their QC at all. I think they make great solid knives

 

[Quiet]

Prove what? That you can upload a pic?

That blade begins a lean east in the pic. Is the why you cut if off before showing the tip?

I'd have returned it.

What? So, how does a blade have a centered tip, and somehow not be centered halfway up (outside what the pic is showing)?

 

[EChoil]

What? So, how does a blade have a centered tip, and somehow not be centered halfway up (outside what the pic is showing)?

Yes...my question exactly.

 

[XiaolongJackson]

So do Benchmade fans suddenly have some kind of persecution complex now? I've never seen anyone so strongly demand photographic evidence that a blade is off center before.

Is that a Bone Collector Mini-Grip? Didn't know they made that in M4.

 

[murfdog67]

Sorry to hear. While you should not have to on a new frame lock in that price point, a proper cleaning often does fix many of these issues. If there was a piece of grit that got trapped between the washer and the blade, it can have a serious affect on blade centering...especially on frame locks for whatever reason. It should not have been delivered in that condition nonetheless, provided it is factory new from an AD. Benchmade is also very good at fixing issues promptly.

If fit and finish is something you are really interested in (ex: absolutely zero blade play now, a decade from now, and ever, or a perfectly centered blade with a lockup meeting precise spec), the Chris Reeve Sebenza is probably your knife (or a custom folder). The fit and finish quality of their products is really the industry benchmark.

I would not let this experience speak completely to Benchmade as a company. As a general rule, they deliver excellent products. And while that certainly does not excuse them here, it may be reason to give them a second chance, or consider buying one which you can handle in person before paying.




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And I doubt that if the OP were making this up they would go through the effort of expressing his displeasure. I don't see a need for pictures nor do I think one needs a picture, a video, or a witness' signature notarized by the nearest judge to verify their experience. Attacking someone's credibility is only discouraging open and free conversation and it is misdirected. If frustration is going to be directed in that fashion, then it should be directed towards Benchmade and/or the dealer which sold the knife.

My grandmother smoked for a better part of the century, saw the doctor about once a decade, ate mayo like it was pudding, and saw triple digits. Does that mean smoking is safe? No. It just means that not all outcomes are the same. Owning X amount of knives doesn't mean that the full sum is or is not the same (unless someone here happened to purchase every Benchmade ever made, and I missed that memo).

Benchmade makes great knives, but they do sometimes have failures in QC...just like most every other brand. Certainly the moral of the OPs story is that seeing a knife before you can buy it has some value, even if you are paying a bit more (or buying from an AD with a solid return policy).

And there were much better ways to voice some of the opinions in this thread.

I agree. Very well said!

 

[Keyman]

So do Benchmade fans suddenly have some kind of persecution complex now? I've never seen anyone so strongly demand photographic evidence that a blade is off center before.

Is that a Bone Collector Mini-Grip? Didn't know they made that in M4.

No, that is neither a mini grip or a bone collector.
That is a Hybrid - a Bone Collector handle with a LE M4 presidio blade.
Some call this combo a "Bonesidio".
As far as the OP goes; you all know that I am a BM fan.
But, not blindly.
All the brands can have issues, no one is absolutely perfect.
Everyone should realize that when a story is told (about anything).
You are not hearing the whole story.
It maybe the whole story for the OP.
However, it is not the whole story when one considers the life of the knife.
What happened before it got to the OP?
What happened to it after it left the OP?
There is always a missing peice of the picture when it comes to the "whole" story.
Every knife I have received(BM's or any other brand), with some kind of issue, I have been able to resolve myself.
It's all realative though.
I have dis-assembled and re-assembled so many knives that I have gained an education doing so.
Not everyone has the time or the know how to make the adjustments necessary to fix the issue, nor should they.
A knife is a mechanism. There are muliple points of assembly that must be done just so.
If one of these points of assembly is executed wrong, at the factory, at the distributor or by the previous owner(returned knife) then the knife will not operate as it was designed to.
This can all be veiwed as a QC issues to the end user.
Is it?
I dont know, I dont know the "whole" story.
Just remember, when someone posts a story like the OP has.
We are not hearing the knife's whole story; just the OP's whole story.

 

[Big Mike]

No, that is neither a mini grip or a bone collector.
That is a Hybrid - a Bone Collector handle with a LE M4 presidio blade.
Some call this combo a "Bonesidio".

Correct, it is indeed a Hybrid, or Frankenfolder if you will.

"Bonesidio"

Very good eye Keyman, :thumbup::thumbup:

As far as the OP goes; you all know that I am a BM fan.
But, not blindly.
All the brands can have issues, no one is absolutely perfect.
Everyone should realize that when a story is told (about anything).
You are not hearing the whole story.
It maybe the whole story for the OP.
However, it is not the whole story when one considers the life of the knife.
What happened before it got to the OP?
What happened to it after it left the OP?
There is always a missing peice of the picture when it comes to the "whole" story.
Every knife I have received(BM's or any other brand), with some kind of issue, I have been able to resolve myself.
It's all realative though.
I have dis-assembled and re-assembled so many knives that I have gained an education doing so.
Not everyone has the time or the know how to make the adjustments necessary to fix the issue, nor should they.
A knife is a mechanism. There are muliple points of assembly that must be done just so.
If one of these points of assembly is executed wrong, at the factory, at the distributor or by the previous owner(returned knife) then the knife will not operate as it was designed to.
This can all be veiwed as a QC issues to the end user.
Is it?
I dont know, I dont know the "whole" story.
Just remember, when someone posts a story like the OP has.
We are not hearing the knife's whole story; just the OP's whole story.

Excellent insight, and very true. :thumbup:

That should be required reading for anyone posting negative comments about any knifemaker.




Big Mike

 

[uxo2]

I doubt that if the OP were making this up .

If frustration is going to be directed in that fashion, then it should be directed towards Benchmade and/or the dealer which sold the knife.

Yes I dont belive.
Some people are SUPER OCD.

Benchmade's QC can slip just like any other.
No QC is 100%

I have worked customer service in the past and seen product returned for assinine reasons.
One was a finger print smudge on a chrome piece.

Also ..
Its on the interwebs .
Someone posted about it, so it must be true.

I've been buying Benchmades and Spydercos since the 90s.
And they have been like Hondas for me.

They always work and so far I missed " The QC is asleep" and gave me a HARLEY. ... Yes I went there.