My newest water bottle survival kit

Good morning Bryan, Have you tried to run a belt to the side of the bottle holder. This way it wont bounce when you need to climb or run. Alot of times i would carry my camera over the shoulder with a belt around the waist when i need to bushwack or climb up down some rocks. I seen a post where a 550 cord was used to braid a belt with plastic clips on each end that you unravel in mins.
As for packing thank you very much but i would stick with my backpack lol.

Sasha
 
I use a small keeper tail on my ax baldric for that purpose. It's just a small tail about 12" long dangling free with a cord lock toggle on it. I poke the free end under my belt if I need it to not swing forward whilst bending. Better still, it stops that ax being able to get up to head height in the event of mishap.
 
Sasha and bladtaco-II. So far I have not had to use anything to keep the water bottle pouch in place. Just this morning Kelly Girl and I went for a daily morning walk. It rained some last night and the ground in areas were greasey to say the least. Even when I slipped a couple of times when jumping/crossing 2 of our creeks that little pack did not even move. I have ran after Kelly Girl when she picked up a stick in front of me and growls while wagging her tail. ( that is her wanting me or kathy to try and get the stick from her. When we take a step towards her she takes off running and then so do we LOL) I have chased kelly Girl and this water bottle holder just stays in place. I crossed 4 seperate fence today and wether I cross over with my left leg or right leg first that bottle holder just seems to stay in place.

baldtaco-II I am with ya on the sling or baldric or what ever someone else might call it. I think you are right on with a bigger knife like yours and the pouch to hold water( hopefully a steel canteen or at least a canteen metal cup or both LOL) and just a few other items ( like a space blanket for a quick water proof shelter, firestarting gear, you could really make a night out or even a few days a lot more bearable if you had to. Wether you got lost or even had to run away from something ie. fire, flood or even a mad wife or girlfriend LOL that last one really gives me the creeps LOL)

I have a little kit that I made up called the First Line / Final Option

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that I read about from a fellow named George Jasper. Well I thought his idea for a little pocket kit was so cool I made one up( it fits in my wallet or pocket like a charm I did expand on his kit with few more items) and now have several of them LOL. but with Mr. Jaspers thoughts on having a few items like in this pic ( in this pic you can see the items of both kits. the one on the left is from the book and the one on the right is mine with a few added items)

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This pic is just before I taped the kit up.

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you can really make a bad situation that much more bearable. Maybe even the difference between life or death. With that little Final Option kit and a space blanket. If I had to stay out a night. I can purifiy 1 gal. of water, make a pretty water proof shelter, with the little knife I made for it I could collect some wood, whittle some shavings for starting the fire, cut open the firestraw I have in the kit and use the cotton/pj mix I have in it. take the firesteel rod and strike it and start nice warming fire, If there was a stream or pond near by I could take some if the hooks line and sinkers I have in the kit and see about doing some fishing. There is a couple of needles to do some mending to my clothes if need be.

I was going to kind of do that with this water bottle and for a couple of days did only carry the Final Option kit a space blanket and the steel canteen.
But then I missed having my binos and then my little U-dig-It shovel.
LOL Well after a couple of days of not having a knife on the strap like I do now. I was just using the knife I carry on my belt but I just missed having
my RISK( Rays Inspired Scandi Knife) right there in front across my chest easy to get and always see that it is there LOL.
Well I took out the Final Option kit and made another one up using a plastic bag from a little first aid kit that I had a few of and put the contents of the Final option kit in it. But then I seen that I had more space so I put in a mirror and then a small flat orange whisle, a small flashlight, I had another small orange handled knife that I made up and was just sittng there around waiting to be used for something LOL. I put in a little hollow brass tube for blowing on my fires, and a few other things too LOL.

I went from having a bunch of items to having a whole lot of items LOL.

Oh well that is life. for me anyways LOL. It still weighs less that 7 pounds.

Can you post pics of your baldric rig baldtaco-II?

Bryan
 
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Wow, Bryan! It didn't take long for you to incorporate that bag into your system!

Thanks for the pics of the "First Line/Final Option" kit that you were telling me about. I have similarly remade my Ritter PSP. I recommend carrying a last ditch like that on your person, rather than in any kind of pack.

-- FLIX
 
Hi all,

Baldtaco-II, Ok that sounds cool I can hardly wait to see it.

Flix, I was wondering when you might pop in and chat some here LOL.
I tell ya, I am so happy with this water bottle carrier. Thanks again John.

Well I have been in contact with the United States Rescue & Special Operations Group.
I was able to contact Mr. Jasper ( He wrote a book called Six Ways in and Twelve Ways Out) of the U.S. RSOG . I sent him pics of this knife that I made up and asked if he would not mind. I was planning on calling it the Jasper knife in honor of him for his thoughts on that little kit. I know he had just a razor blade but still some sharpened steel is better than NO sharpened steel in a kit. But in true HERO fashion that comes from the them Special Guys. He said he would rather have the knife called the
U.S. RSOG Final Option knife. He told me basicly that he did not think he was any to special to have his name on any thing. That's modestiy :D.
I thought that new name sounded great too LOL. So that is what the knife is going to be called now.

Yea, it did not take long to have an idea on how I wanted to put a kit together with this Bottle holder with the front pouch. It is so awesome:thumbup:

Thanks, about the First Line / Final Option kit that I put together.
I really agree with you on having a little pocket kit of some kind.
So does Mr. Jasper, Because you NEVER know when you might get the TEST.
What test is that you might ask. Well on page 181 of Mr. Jaspers book he tells a story about the Battalion Col. in the Rangers that spoke 8 words that appylies to all of us. " The TEST comes for some, but not all" meaning that
some us will be in a survival emergency and having a few items in your pocket or around your neck or on your belt, key ring etc. could mean the difference between keeping the Grim Reaper a bay, and living, or being pulled in to him, by that long sickle, that he carries and die.

When I hear about people even here on this forum asking should I carry a survival kit? Even if I just got here or there? I just want to grab them and say YEA. You do not know when FATE is going give you the test. Every year we see people in the news DIEING or having one heck of a really rough time. being lost or what ever.

Just a few days back there was that thread on here about that Rays Mears talking about the Father and son in the Alps who just were going to go for a little COUPLE hours ski trip, 8 DAYS later they get rescued, I mean the father went through a suvival school since he was a pilot in the Air force. How hard is really to carry a knife, a way to start a fire, a compass, some kind of cord, and a little space blanket for some over head water proof shelter and a steel water bottle or metal cup in a pack of some kind?

You know I really do not feel sorry for that guy He was just plain stupid. Here this guy can fly a plane maybe even a fighter jet, and go through a survival school. but did not have the smarts to carry a few pocket items with him. Yes he and his son survived for 8 days but what rotten way to spend it. Well that is how I feel any ways. I just think about what his wife and other kids went through, when those 2 were missing. ( days of Hell ) That much worry and agony he put them through, problably took ten years off his wifes life.

Well anyways, Thanks again Flix and keep that little kit with you. I know most of the people who spend time reading here on the great forum do to. I say most because we still have people asking Do you think I should carry a survival kit or why do you carry a survival kit.

I just shake my head and LOL think did there parents have any children that lived LOL. Then I think of Katrina and how fast it flooded that town in the night hours. Would pocket equipment help in that type of emergency I can just hear some asking that LOL. ( It sure could not have hurt) Thank God that He might have mercy on you help you out some way, Because the Reaper will NOT.

Bryan
 
“Baldtaco-II, Ok that sounds cool I can hardly wait to see it.”

Bugger, brace yourself for disappointment then. It's far from pretty, just ugly but functional and comfy.

The thing in pics 1+2 I originally made just to drag around a scope, a flask, and a sit mat. Rough and ready but worked great. One day I stuck the #2 in it just to conceal it from plebs when it was strapped to the outside of my bergan. Then I put it on and discovered that the weight of #2 just seemed to evaporate. Even with a couple of pints of water in that front pouch it still seems very light. Given that I don't like big blades strapped to me in sheaths, but still requiring a hands free tote to be able to lug stuff back to a nest, the #2 goes inside that completely inside a slip sheath. I usually carry it across the chest.

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Here's one I use for an ax. I don't like having axes attached to me either, but as above, on a forage I need to be able to stick the ax somewhere to free the hands to haul goodies back. The bit of string on it is 'the tail' I was on about to sasha. A lot of where I roam around here is chalk and flint. It is very slippery when it is wet. In fact, a few of the local climbers refer to climbing it as 'slime climbing'. It's not a matter of whether you will end up on your arse but how often. That keeper stops the ax head from riding up and beating sense into me.

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Wow Bryan,really great post. Congrats on winning the contest. Couldn't happen to a nicer more deserving guy. Really a whole lot of good info and ideas from you and all the other posters. WAY to much to process in this few minutes before work.
But you can bet I'll be thinking and "packing" kits all day at work. LOL.
 
Baldtaco-II I think that looks like a pretty cool sling bag. Way to go.
The one for your hatchet is neat to, did you make that one?

Alex, Thanks glad you liked it LOL. yea it was neat to win this water bottle holder they are really awesome. Tough as heck.
LOL I bet you will be thinking kits all day too LOL.

Chat with you later,

Bryan
 
Yeah, I made them both from the same thing. Paramount was lightness followed by slow degradation in wet and mud. I just butchered a kiddies pack I found in the the village for a couple of quid. It was a truly hideous pack but the materials were exactly what I was after. The hatchet one was a little harder to make 'cos it is padded both sides unlike the bigger one that is only padded my side. That meant it couldn't get it under the foot of the sewing machine and had to do some by hand. Grrr.
 
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