My small survival kit

Someone here had wrapped their Bic lighter in a few turns of duct tape. Does not take up much room at all, and has unlimited uses.
 
Great kit. I'm just wondering how good are those commando wire saws. Seems to me like some swear by them and some can break a bigger box of them before going trough a half inch limb
 
styx said:
Great kit. I'm just wondering how good are those commando wire saws. Seems to me like some swear by them and some can break a bigger box of them before going trough a half inch limb
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Yeah, the old Commando wire saws pretty much sucked for the most part. Just recently I bought a bunch of Spiral Survival Wire Saws from www.Bestglide.com to start using. They have 3 different "grades" of saws. The best one they sell comes with removeable handles and 2 wire blades, should you snap one. I think it's the same saw that they put inside the Force Recon survival kit I and some other US Military survival kits. Also the TOPS folding survival saw works pretty good too. It's got a nice handle and a 4" hacksaw blade that cuts pretty damn good.
 
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Wevil said:
Someone here had wrapped their Bic lighter in a few turns of duct tape. Does not take up much room at all, and has unlimited uses.
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I have 18" of duct tape in the kit already. If you look in the first picture of items you'll see it folded flat, it takes up pretty much no space at all. It's in the first list of included items. There are quite a few people who wrap duct tape around Bic's and it's a great way to store it.
 
Wire saws are pretty good tools as long as you go slow and you do not use them as advertised. You have to make a bow saw out of them using a nice, green sapling.
 
Don Rearic said:
Wire saws are pretty good tools as long as you go slow and you do not use them as advertised. You have to make a bow saw out of them using a nice, green sapling.
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Those bow saws can work pretty good as long as like you said, "go slow and don't use them as advertised". I'm getting pretty fond of that TOPS survival saw. It cuts really well, is much stronger than just about all of the wire saws, and it's compact enough to fit inside most survival kits. If you have a chance I'd give one a try. :thumbup:
 
eljugador said:
Great kit, but why the Beadryl?
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Thanks! Benedryl is an antihitamine that you could use for different reasons is the field. Really anything that you might have an allergic reaction to it can help counteract.
 
In the BCB ads for the "commando wire saw," they always have this kid sawing a tree limb and he has the saw hairpinned. Recipe for disaster. Heats up, takes a set and snaps if it even makes it that far.

Sometimes people are like monkeys, they get their hand in the bottle and grab the nut and they just won't let it go. They demand that certain tools produce excellent results when they were not designed to work certain ways. Razor blades, wire saws and other things are excellent survival tools as long as the person using them doesn't have the monkey attitude of beating the snot out of everything, etc.
 
Don Rearic said:
In the BCB ads for the "commando wire saw," they always have this kid sawing a tree limb and he has the saw hairpinned. Recipe for disaster. Heats up, takes a set and snaps if it even makes it that far.

Sometimes people are like monkeys, they get their hand in the bottle and grab the nut and they just won't let it go. They demand that certain tools produce excellent results when they were not designed to work certain ways. Razor blades, wire saws and other things are excellent survival tools as long as the person using them doesn't have the monkey attitude of beating the snot out of everything, etc.
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I can remember a bunch of us snapping our wire saws on one of our first outtings in the Scouts. We were pretty young and didn't realize the limitations to them, but we sure learned real quick after that!:D
 
I did it myself! Worse yet, they were horrible wire saws, they were terrible compared to the ones you can obtain easily today.

I remember using a DOAN Magnesium Firestarter back then too, I shaved off a little dust and a few curls and struck it and it weren't about sh*t. :D

After I went back to the concept of a one match fire, the ferro rod on it worked great and a goodly amount of the magnesium did a great job helping it.
 
Don Rearic said:
I did it myself! Worse yet, they were horrible wire saws, they were terrible compared to the ones you can obtain easily today.

I remember using a DOAN Magnesium Firestarter back then too, I shaved off a little dust and a few curls and struck it and it weren't about sh*t. :D

After I went back to the concept of a one match fire, the ferro rod on it worked great and a goodly amount of the magnesium did a great job helping it.
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WOW, that totally reminded me of our first winter survival week we did in my Scout troop in the Sierra's. We went up for 6 days in Jan at about 8000ft and trenched in with our snow caves. One thing each of us had to do was start a fire on our own using gathered materials and we were only allowed 2 matches to get it lit. Both of our Scout Masters had been through the Army's Artic training course in Alaska and SERE so they liked to put us through the ringer.:D
 
Damn I'm late with this, but never mind that...
Thx for the info on the wire saws. This just proves that it comes down to the user. Guess that's why the hand chainsaws were made since everyone is so brilliant and knows how to use everything from the get go
 
333rm, you do have some cool kits, I have to say that.

That water bag you have, how big is that as far as length and width?

I'm asking because I always carry at the very least, enough duct tape to reinforce the sides, and the bottom of plastic bags that I plan on putting water in. If a bag will leak, chances are it will leak at a seam. So I just make it a point to carry at least enough to repair my bag.

So two inch wide duct tape gives me an inch of tape on each side of a seam.

If that bag is 9'' long and 6'' wide, that's 24'' of duct tape for me, plus another 6'' for any other repairs that might be needed on the bag.

Water bag repair is about the only real reason I carry duct tape.

The other thing I do is pack a condom and I will use the plastic bag as support for the condom. That way I really have two bags if need be and I can use both together if the plastic one starts to fail. Just a thought.

Can you tell I like water? ;)



If I plan on taping up a cut or something, I won't pack a little kit like this as deep in bandaids and medical items like it is now. I will have a few cotton balls in a ziplock and use the tape and cotton balls as a make shift dressing.

If I need the cotton balls for fire, I will use my Chapstick and smear that onto the cotton ball to make a long burning waxy candle type tinder. Just like a PJCB but not as messy.

Now my tape, Chapstick and cotton balls all have several different uses.



Maybe dump that pencil and add in a Chapstick.

Drop the can opener, you have one on the little multi tool I'm sure, if you even need one.

Make the fishing kit a little smaller, and you will have plenty of room for water bags and more tape without hurting your kit at all.
 
Hi again 333rm. I've posted on your other threads about various things I thought would be of use. One thing was antibiotics. Well I know you just can't ask the local pharmacy for some, but you CAN get penicillin at most any vet or even some pet stores out west. I know it says "not for human consumsion, but its penicillin and will still kill infections, and can be easy to get with no Drs. script. And I talked about a local/topical analgesic/pain relife for a bad wound. Well a fish hook & line with the loop at the end of the hook loop pressed down, makes for a not bad suture. The pain of this "microsurgury" can be taken down quite a bit with this Oragel product. It has *20%* benzocaine, much more than the others. And as a liquid applicator it could and Will numb an aera. I know from having to do it. I will put a pic or two so show the size. But this really would help with deep wound care. Your kit is looking GREAT. When all is said and done I'm in line. OK the pics. Enjoy edgy :thumbup: Ahh this pc does not have a floppy port. I will put in the pic tomarrow. dang it. But the key is their small.
 
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333rm said:
WOW, that totally reminded me of our first winter survival week we did in my Scout troop in the Sierra's. We went up for 6 days in Jan at about 8000ft and trenched in with our snow caves. One thing each of us had to do was start a fire on our own using gathered materials and we were only allowed 2 matches to get it lit. Both of our Scout Masters had been through the Army's Artic training course in Alaska and SERE so they liked to put us through the ringer.:D
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That's a really cool story. Pardon the pun. :D
 
MrPan said:
333rm, you do have some cool kits, I have to say that.

That water bag you have, how big is that as far as length and width?

I'm asking because I always carry at the very least, enough duct tape to reinforce the sides, and the bottom of plastic bags that I plan on putting water in. If a bag will leak, chances are it will leak at a seam. So I just make it a point to carry at least enough to repair my bag.

So two inch wide duct tape gives me an inch of tape on each side of a seam.

If that bag is 9'' long and 6'' wide, that's 24'' of duct tape for me, plus another 6'' for any other repairs that might be needed on the bag.

Water bag repair is about the only real reason I carry duct tape.

The other thing I do is pack a condom and I will use the plastic bag as support for the condom. That way I really have two bags if need be and I can use both together if the plastic one starts to fail. Just a thought.
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The water bag when full is about 10-12" long and about 4-5" round. It holds 1 quart of water and has a built in twist tie on the top so you can seal it up. For they're size and price you could pretty much pack 2 of them so you'd have 1 as a backup.
 
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