Mythbusters: "Man, I sure love the look of that XL Vaquero/Espada/Voyager, but how will it ever fit in my pockets?" + musings on the wave

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I hear from folks all the time, they want a Vaquero, or an XL Voyager, or even the XL Espada if you're saucy (if you got another size of Espada, you've failed, I'm sorry). Sometimes they have apprehensions like "Eh, I live in Empire City and spend most of my time in work-boxes, what do I need that for"? or they just don't like the knife, they think it's too mall-ninja, they get the feeling when they look at an XL like the feeling I get when I look at a Medford or Strider "Just.. eh, no.". That's okay. But for those who DO want one but think half the knife will stick out of your pocket - think again.

I have compiled some reasons here why your pants won't be falling down, half a sword won't be sticking out of your pocket, and your movement will not be limited, as well as some video of me attempting to show this. You might want one for a portable kitchen/BBQ knife, mini-machete if you've got vines and shrubs and stuff, emergency use, maybe you can't carry, maybe you have coyotes, maybe you want a backup, maybe you just love it and it makes you happy. I'm referring to all the big CS knives and maybe even other big knives if you're apprehensive, but I am using the Cold Steel Espada XL as my example here because it's the largest of the bunch and if I can make my point with that, then those of you who only want the 5.5in Voyager will be relieved. So: unless you are a woman who is wearing pants made for women, aka, no/nearly no pocket to artificially inflate the purse industry, you won't look like this:

(The thumbnail is not where the video starts, just click play and the first shot is her with the knife in pants. You will NOT look like this.

ALL of the XLs below the XL Espada, will fit all the way down into the pocket if you wear ANY kind of normal pants. So will the Espada XL, if you don't clip it. If you do clip it, it's like any other pocket knife, some butt is showing. Like, just a little bit more than a Spyderco with clip, if you would walk around with that, or a holster, your Espada will be unnoticed. The shiny, aluminum XL is the exception as the shiny butt of it will glint, and the curve makes it look like ya have a revolver in yer pants. But I doubt this is the one many would choose to walk with. I took this pic of it unclipped in my Carhartts, moved it to the left a little so you could see it because it's totally hidden otherwise. Chaparral for size.


I do not know if this size/pant/pocket size translates, but I'm shorter than you. Unless there are some women on the forum who are 4 foot something, I'm 5 and a few inches. I am shorter and smaller than you. I traditionally, all my life, have worn Levis jeans, not ball-huggers, not pants that look like tights/female pants, but a little tight, like you might see a "rocker" wear. Definitely tighter than what most of you wear. The Espada XL neatly fit in there, contoured itself against my thigh, and allows running, jumping, all of that.

Sweatpants, too. I go out in sweatpants sometimes with it, totally unnoticable, doesn't drag down the pants, it's just fine. Sweatpants are actually probably the best waving material I've come across. Here is me disappearing it into my sweatpants, walking in a circle and sitting down, I don't know well how this illustrates my concept, should have had someone hold the camera while I did some jumping jacks, run, crouch down, sit, stand, do all kinds of regular movements.


Really easy OHO and closing, as shown here, again, trying to move around, but I think someone else should tape me because I don't know what this really shows but the easy draw.

🎶
And there ain't no road just like it
Anywhere I found
Running south on Lake Shore Drive heading into town

Just slippin' on by on LSD, Friday night trouble bound
🎶 (I was on Kingston Trio radio and the record ended and this came on shuffle, never heard it before but I love the sound, like country and folk had a baby with classic rock)

I like large knives, I just do. I've been also sort of brainwashed into being folder-centric, because there's heavy gun laws, heavy fixed blade laws, but no folder laws but auto/bali, but there's something about my XLs that just bring me pleasure, and I'm not the only one. So, I absolutely have full respect for anyone regardless of taste, this is for the people who DO WANT a knife like this. I like big, waved, knives, what can I say?

I hope this has helped some of you understand that these knives are carry-able almost anywhere in almost any pants, and that I would never risk walking around looking like the girl in the YouTube video I linked. Included no pictures of XL Voyager Tanto because that is just invisible in the pocket, you'd just be looking at my pocket. That thing is smaller and lighter than you'd think. Not "whip it out" small, but light/small to carry. Funny enough, I got this Police because I thought it would be a great do-it-all that I can actually use in public, unlike the CS knives.


In closing, if the size is what's holding you back, don't trip on that. It's gonna fit. If you're a woman reading, I am sorry for the fashion industry's denial of your pockets. I know lots of girls that find a men's size that fits 'em and use that instead.
 
This is like a treatise on pants pockets...
I mean, basically. The thing I'm talking about is people who are worried that anything from a Voyager to Espada won't fit in their pockets, so, you could put it that way. The pocket symposium.

We have pages and pages of comparisons of steels, handle materials, how grippy this micarta is vs that micarta, this shade vs that shade, I wouldn't take it too seriously. This was just kind of fun for me and hopefully makes some folks less apprehensive about their purchase of these knives which some find to be awesome.
 
I mean, basically. The thing I'm talking about is people who are worried that anything from a Voyager to Espada won't fit in their pockets, so, you could put it that way. The pocket symposium.

We have pages and pages of comparisons of steels, handle materials, how grippy this micarta is vs that micarta, this shade vs that shade, I wouldn't take it too seriously. This was just kind of fun for me and hopefully makes some folks less apprehensive about their purchase of these knives which some find to be awesome.
I don't think pocket size is the chief concern as to why most people aren't carrying around those ridiculously sized folding knives...
 
I don't think pocket size is why most people aren't carrying around those ridiculously sized folding knives...
With all respect, this is for the people who DO want to have the ability to carry this, not you. I do appreciate that you find them ridiculous and do not begrudge your opinion. My intention in the post was not to convince you to carry an XL, but rather disprove the "How are you gonna even fit that in your pocket?" idea that goes around.

I wrote this also because I was starting to go on about this in EDC thread, where, what happened, but somebody said to me they wanted an XL but was afraid their pockets wouldn't take it. I didn't want to post a novel in there, so I made it into its own thread. I appreciate your criticism.

All good, just different.
 
With all respect, this is for the people who DO want to have the ability to carry this, not you. I do appreciate that you find them ridiculous and do not begrudge your opinion. My intention in the post was not to convince you to carry an XL, but rather disprove the "How are you gonna even fit that in your pocket?" idea that goes around.

I wrote this also because I was starting to go on about this in EDC thread, where, what happened, but somebody said to me they wanted an XL but was afraid their pockets wouldn't take it. I didn't want to post a novel in there, so I made it into its own thread. I appreciate your criticism.

All good, just different.
How many people are telling you "all the time" they want one of these knives?
 
How many people are telling you "all the time" they want one of these knives?
To answer your question, telling me personally that? Almost every time I show an XL Espada, there's a guy or two making such a remark, especially in other places, but here, too. The amount of times I have read the remark while perusing pages and comments increases exponentially.

I understand you don't find value in the thread, and like I said, I have full respect for your opinion. I don't think I wrote this thread for you. You are not interested in the knife and are taking a rather harsh tone with your questions, and I just don't get what we're trying to gain out of this interaction. It's not like I could have said "A hundred people, including all the mods and regulars! Let me link 'em all!" and you'd suddenly go "Oh, okay! Cool post then, have a nice day".

So, yeah, man. These ridiculous knives ain't for all. I would spend time talking to someone who enjoys what you enjoy, instead of a LARP-er like me who wants to play at commando. You have better uses of your time than spending it talking with me about pockets.
 
To answer your question, telling me personally that? Almost every time I show an XL Espada, there's a guy or two making such a remark, especially in other places, but here, too. The amount of times I have read the remark while perusing pages and comments increases exponentially.

I understand you don't find value in the thread, and like I said, I have full respect for your opinion. I don't think I wrote this thread for you. You are not interested in the knife and are taking a rather harsh tone with your questions, and I just don't get what we're trying to gain out of this interaction. It's not like I could have said "A hundred people, including all the mods and regulars! Let me link 'em all!" and you'd suddenly go "Oh, okay! Cool post then, have a nice day".

So, yeah, man. These ridiculous knives ain't for all. I would spend time talking to someone who enjoys what you enjoy, instead of a LARP-er like me who wants to play at commando. You have better uses of your time than spending it talking with me about pockets.
A simple "like 20 people or so" would have sufficed. Was just curious how many actually wanted something that big. You must have been great at the short essay tests in school
 
A simple "like 20 people or so" would have sufficed. Was just curious how many actually wanted something that big. You must have been great at the short essay tests in school
I wasn't really trying to suffice... I was just trying to get out of this pointedly negative and insulting interaction.
I don't have a number, man, what do you want? I've heard the remark maybe a hundred total times, give or take 20, including YouTube and Reddit? Does that answer please you, m'lord? 😂

In case it wasn't clear from my first post, I really wanna stress that I'm not saying "This is what you need to carry!" or saying that I walk around like this all day, or saying that this will be useful to everyone. I just want the folks who do like this sort of thing to be able to see it. You won't find me on your posts talking like this to you.

I meant this for the people who do like this. I cannot control other's postings, but I'd really like to get a positive bent back to this if possible. 🎶Love is good, love can be strong, we gotta get right back to where we started froooom🎶

It's no ill-will, UWF. I'm sorry my answer wasn't good, sorry you didn't like the post. I hope we're all good now.
 
How many people are telling you "all the time" they want one of these knives?
Raises hand ... to simply say me too (speaking for myself).

To this day I kick myself for not jumping on the polished g10/alum version XL when they were closed out by CS at sub-hundo pricing. I knew I should have bought multiples ... :-/ when I had the chance :-(
ARG !##!
 
Just FYI a CS large Luzon fits just fine in the front pocket of my jeans. With a bit of practice you can catch the rear corner of the pocket with the flipper tab and it will pop right open in one move....
Oh, just looked at a pic of it, it is one of those with the flipper on both ends that works as a wave! Nice, I love those.

I first found that out using one of those 6" novelty "Italian stiletto" knives from BudK. "Hey, why's that tab there, aesthetic? You can't do anything wi...OH!" 😂
Nearly got one, but I wanted that sweet sweet Tri-Ad.
Raises hand ... to simply say me too (speaking for myself).

To this day I kick myself for not jumping on the polished g10/alum version XL when they were closed out by CS at sub-hundo pricing. I knew I should have bought multiples ... :-/ when I had the chance :-(
ARG !##!
Sub-$100? You really should have, oh man, I bought mine in a package deal, fancy Espada XL, Tanto XL Voyager and GRIK for $350! I know nowadays, what I got is still a good deal, but sub-100 makes me want to cry! 😂 Man, I got in this game post-Covid, sucks. I was reading threads earlier, people were complaining about the Shaman's price being increased to $140 or $180 or something, now look at it...
 
Just FYI a CS large Luzon fits just fine in the front pocket of my jeans. With a bit of practice you can catch the rear corner of the pocket with the flipper tab and it will pop right open in one move....
The OG Ti-Lite quillions were/are famous for this rake-opening move ;-) along with a whole host of less-than-lethal applications of influence.
OMG Ima gonna pull out one of my Ti-Lites and carry some, it has been many years since we danced (probably a 4" & a 6" - THANKS !
 
Raises hand ... to simply say me too (speaking for myself).

To this day I kick myself for not jumping on the polished g10/alum version XL when they were closed out by CS at sub-hundo pricing. I knew I should have bought multiples ... :-/ when I had the chance :-(
ARG !##!
That's cool. Was just curious as to how many people OP had interacted with, or for that matter how many people here, really wanted a super large folder.
 
Everybody that sees, asks why so large. Well considering the handle is more slender than previous EDC, and NO longer (previous EDC was a Ti-RIL/G10 Millie) just makes sense.
A sexy Hummingbird at rest for scale - LOL.

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Everybody that sees, asks why so large. Well considering the handle is more slender than previous EDC, and NO longer (previous EDC was a Ti-RIL/G10 Millie) just makes sense.
A sexy Hummingbird at rest for scale - LOL.

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I would think the "Why would you even want that" question would not be loved around here considering the crowd, haha.

Yeah, I like big carries but my daily carries tend to run more... "Police 4, Yojumbo, Endura, Mil/PM2, Buck 110 size". I generally cap out at a little over four inches, like, the Police 4. That, actually, is one of my favorite knives, slimmer than the PM2, because it's a good emergency knife, great pocket knife, and I can actually use it out and about, whereas I would not pull even my smaller re-ground Endura because it's black and has a Janich wharncliffe - it looks like a big razor. The K390 series? Oh, girls love that teal. Can't pull that with the XL Tanto Voyager.

I only carry the XL Espada on occasion, like my fancy one horizontal on my belt in a sheath when I'm going somewhere with cool people, (carried that openly to Ren-Faire, people loved it) or a G10 in my pocket sometimes at night in coyote territory. I actually got rolled up on last night, but I managed to verbally end the encounter.

Also, your pic gives me an idea... hold on.
 
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Also, your pic gives me an idea... hold on.
I hope you are about to post a pic of a open Millie resting on an XL blade ...?

I never bought a Police simply because of it's name.
My version of the Police is the large Caly:
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I hope you are about to post a pic of a open Millie resting on an XL blade ...?

I never bought a Police simply because of it's name.
My version of the Police is the large Caly:
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Close! A PM2, though I shoulda used the 440V serrated Millie, that's one of my favorites!

Nothing here as nice as your K2 or Olamic, but I did use the 10V PM2 in honor of your K2, and topped it off with the Bug, because the Opi no. 2 kept rolling. I love tiny knives, too. 😁
 
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