Nano-oil for knife pivots

Nano-Oil.com said:
Hey, Andrew124c41,
Thanks for bringing this thread up, I had forgotten it existed, sweet memory of a few clients chewing the fat about lubrication and what not, if you would to meet me in person, we are just about to take off to www.BladeShow.com in Marietta Georgia, Christian StClaire will be in Todd Begg booth www.BeggKnives.com while others will be in Eric Grimsmo, Bryan Gonzalez , Spartan blade plus a few other spot around this amazing Show,
Please note that you are mis spelling my name , it legally spells StClaire, also a little lesson on USPTO if I may, I heard you just turned 65 and it is never too late to learn something new specially as you seem to be broadcasting false information about United States Patent and TradeMark Office hence USPTO,
Nano-Oil - NanoLube - Nano-Bearings - Uni-Quik - Octo-Quik - MasterClip - Uni-Glow - Oxy-Klean - Nitrox 4 - Magnetik-Wood and many others are indeed TradeMarks of Christian StClaire StClaire Products LLC CA or Nitrox Technologies Inc
some have websites attached to those products some do not, some are Registered and some are not, some have patents and some have not,
Non the less they are Trademarks of Christian StClaire.
May I suggest Sir that you immerse yourself in USPTO Law Library since you are from DC, before you chose to deliberately Mis Inform the public in such a blatant manner,
Take care.
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Andrew124c41 said:
As someone who has done magic as a hobby since the age of 8, it never ceases to amaze me how easily we can be deceived, now much we want to believe in an illusion. Where on St. Claire's site does he cite any research or demonstrate proof of concept? Do you really believe he has created nano bearings, which by the way, he claims to have trademarked along with the name Nano Oil itself. FYI, a basic search of the US Trademark data base fails to disclose an active trade mark for either term under his name or anyone else for that matter. It is my suspicion that St. Claire is simply repackaging some other product and selling it. You probably wonder why he would be so brazen to do that? I have lived in the DC environs for over 35 years. At one time I used to do histories and physicals for some Federal law enforcement agencies including the Postal Service Inspectors. I got to know a bunch of them and was shocked to learn how difficult mail fraud is to prosecute. More often than not the FTC will issue cease and desist orders which fail to do anything. Selling snake oil is very difficult to prosecute. There is a certain "let the buyer beware" attitude not to mention the shear volume of cases.

Having been involved with alternative medicine and the issues with respect to what claims can and cannot be made, Kevin Tradeau is a case in point. It took the FTC years to get anything against him to stick. Legal actions began around 2000 and it was not until 2014 that he was sentenced to 10 years in prison. FYI, he started out as a car salesman which should come as not surprise.

I just filed a complaint with the FTC against Nano Oil. I requested that they investigate St. Claire's claims. As the FTC is in my backyard, I will do my best to make sure they follow through.
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Nano Oil is snake oil. do not fall victim to the advertising.
 
Mo2 said:
Nano Oil is snake oil. do not fall victim to the advertising.
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Hey Mo2 , where do you come from ?,
Nano-Oil & NanoLube are absolutely not advertised anywhere whatsoever ! ,
if you are trying to make a point please be accurate, this is ridiculous, LOL
Also, to you too, please come meet us at www.BladeShow.com in Marietta Georgia June 2nd to 4th. we will be in Todd Begg's booth among others , a lot of fun guaranteed in Peachtree State among good people with not so much drama.
 
Nano-Oil.com said:
Hey Mo2 , where do you come from ?,
Nano-Oil & NanoLube are absolutely not advertised anywhere whatsoever ! ,
if you are trying to make a point please be accurate, this is ridiculous, LOL
Also, to you too, please come meet us at www.BladeShow.com in Marietta Georgia June 2nd to 4th. we will be in Todd Begg's booth among others , a lot of fun guaranteed in Peachtree State among good people with not so much drama.
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The advertising on the nano-oil website is what im talking about is snake oil.
its not for knives. you just keep pressurizing people to use it. and when people ask you more about it, you ignore them and goto the next person, especially at shows.

i can make nano oil way cheaper by mixing nano balls and mineral oil.

here's one reason why i wont use nano oil anymore among many other reasons...
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Who ever you are Modus Operandi 2, you are now approaching diffamation,
Christian StClaire never asked " do you wish to buy one" period, we are at Trade Shows around the World to demonstrate the advantages of using Nano-Oil for Armament, we often demonstrate on people's own knives like at Shot Show, it does not get any better then this in demonstrations as we use their own equipment.
Take care, do not forget there is a knife show going on in Marietta this week, maybe this is the therapy that we all need to recalibrate our priorities in life.
 
Mo2 said:
The advertising on the nano-oil website is what im talking about is snake oil.
its not for knives. you just keep pressurizing people to use it. and when people ask you more about it, you ignore them and goto the next person, especially at shows.

i can make nano oil way cheaper by mixing nano balls and mineral oil.

here's one reason why i wont use nano oil anymore among many other reasons...
IMG_20170314_200500.jpg
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Hey Mo2. Why don't you call John Grimsmo of Grimsmoknives and tell him that he is shipping his custom knives with a tube of snake oil.
The actions on his knives are arguably the best for the money on the planet.
 
in my opinion I have tried Nano Oil, it works great, but I can not tell the difference between the Diawa Reel oil and it, except for price... I am also testing Mobil 1 5w30 synthetic witch also seams to work fine.. one a knife we use so little oil maybe a few drops it seams all work good..
 
I have been involved with folding knives for over 30 years and have tried almost all of the lubrication fads.
At this time Nano-Oil is my favorite for knives and flashlights.

Personal trial and testing are my main criteria for selection.

Regards,
FK
 
Where is the research? Where is the patent? Where is the registered trademark? The answer is that they do not exist. He will have to demonstrate something when the FTC comes knocking on his door.
 
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Nano-Oil.com said:
Hey, Andrew124c41,
Thanks for bringing this thread up, I had forgotten it existed, sweet memory of a few clients chewing the fat about lubrication and what not, if you would to meet me in person, we are just about to take off to www.BladeShow.com in Marietta Georgia, Christian StClaire will be in Todd Begg booth www.BeggKnives.com while others will be in Eric Grimsmo, Bryan Gonzalez , Spartan blade plus a few other spot around this amazing Show,
Please note that you are mis spelling my name , it legally spells StClaire, also a little lesson on USPTO if I may, I heard you just turned 65 and it is never too late to learn something new specially as you seem to be broadcasting false information about United States Patent and TradeMark Office hence USPTO,
Nano-Oil - NanoLube - Nano-Bearings - Uni-Quik - Octo-Quik - MasterClip - Uni-Glow - Oxy-Klean - Nitrox 4 - Magnetik-Wood and many others are indeed TradeMarks of Christian StClaire StClaire Products LLC CA or Nitrox Technologies Inc
some have websites attached to those products some do not, some are Registered and some are not, some have patents and some have not,
Non the less they are Trademarks of Christian StClaire.
May I suggest Sir that you immerse yourself in USPTO Law Library since you are from DC, before you chose to deliberately Mis Inform the public in such a blatant manner,
Take care.
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Show me anything. Proof of concept, research, manufacturing information, scanning electron microscope photos of "nano-bearings."....something that proves that your product is what it claims to be. Anyone can use a the trade mark symbol without registering. However, that does not mean a thing in terms of proof of concept, that the product is what it claims to be.

You have absolutely no information on your website that proves anything.

Just because you use the TM symbol does not mean anything in terms of proof that the product you sell is what it claims to be.

I was absolutely amazed how easy it is to defraud the public because there are so many complaints to the FTC they cannot go after all of them. When enough people make a complaint, then they do. The interesting thing is how much people want to believe. W. C. Fields was correct in saying a "sucker is born every minute.".

Nano Bearings? While I am familiar with the concept and have actually read a number of articles in terms of the theory, you don't have any in your oil. Give me a break. If you do, then show us electron micrographs demonstrating them and tell us how and where they are made.
 
I'm just a newby. I know very little about knives, other than I find them interesting. Personally I think snake oil is a pretty good assumption for the product, but if it works what the heck! How many snakes died in the making of this horrible stuff? If he can sell it and make a living for himself more power to him.
 
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I've never used Nano oil and have no dog in the fight, however I haven't seen any scientific tests of any lubricants for knives. Lots of people have lots of opinions about the "best" lubricant which is all fine and good but that is not based on any scientific evidence. Carry on.
 
The only testing I've seen that passes muster is this.
Can't go wrong with those that presently pass, or have passed prior specs.
 
i have always thought!that oil was oil and just use any kind,i know there's people who also think this way,but about a year ago i picked up the 10 weight 15cc size and it works vary well,never had any problems with,will it preform any better them other oils! i think it will,amazing maybe not,but i use it on all my folders now,you only need a drop so the stuff last a vary long time,this is only my thoughts on nano oil.
 
Oil catches grit. Grit destroys pivots, bearings, and other mechanical parts. Dry lubricants will retain much less contaminants. There is a reason that dry lubes are often preferred for off-road bike chains (some use a wax based or evaporative with material deposited and left behind).

If you are the type that plans to use your knife for cutting in a garden, camps, construction sites, or other gritty areas, look into a dry lube, like a graphite based one.

Personally, I just try to keep my pivots clean and flush them out regularly, dry them with forced air. For food used fixed or folding blades, I use mineral oil, since it is food safe. Otherwise I use a dry graphite based lube.
 
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