Neck Knives -- how big is big?
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Joe, I would specify two neck knife groups:
1. For non-concealed carry at home, camp or trip (including hunting, fishing, canoeing etc).
2. For concealed carry in urban environment
In first case a knife could be somewhat bigger, SPYDERCO Bill Moran Featherweight with removed clip can serve as well in this role. Bigger knife is more versatile and easier to use. In my opinion here essential would be the weight of whole package (knife + sheath).
In second case a knife should be smaller and thinner to do not print through clothing. In this case knife could be intended mostly for self-defense, so the choice is wider. I'm assuming that each sharp and/or pointed thing can serve for self-defense: each knife, large nail or even broken glass bottle. On the other hand not each knife can serve well as utility tool: Emerson's La'Griffe is the nice example, it works well to make human a harm but for pencil sharpening or any other kind of whittling I considerably would choose another knife.
So far theory.
Now a little practics.
I'm not too partial to neck carry and as result I have not too many neck knives.
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Sergiusz Mitin
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1. For non-concealed carry at home, camp or trip (including hunting, fishing, canoeing etc).
2. For concealed carry in urban environment
In first case a knife could be somewhat bigger, SPYDERCO Bill Moran Featherweight with removed clip can serve as well in this role. Bigger knife is more versatile and easier to use. In my opinion here essential would be the weight of whole package (knife + sheath).
In second case a knife should be smaller and thinner to do not print through clothing. In this case knife could be intended mostly for self-defense, so the choice is wider. I'm assuming that each sharp and/or pointed thing can serve for self-defense: each knife, large nail or even broken glass bottle. On the other hand not each knife can serve well as utility tool: Emerson's La'Griffe is the nice example, it works well to make human a harm but for pencil sharpening or any other kind of whittling I considerably would choose another knife.
So far theory.
Now a little practics.
I'm not too partial to neck carry and as result I have not too many neck knives.
- BOKER Specialist can serve nicely for self defense and acceptably well for general cutting chores. It is very flat but a small bit too big for concealed carry around the neck.
- CRKT Bear Claw it clearly defensive tool. It has very suitable overall length for neck carry but is a bit to heavy side and has too thick scales and multi-carry sheath. This time I'm customizing mine trying to reduce the weight and thickness of package without handling compromising. When I'll finish I'll publish photos.
- Fällkniven WM is very flat but sill comfortable to handle, blade serves very nice for general cutting chores (suitable to its dimensions of course) and it can be used as defensive weapon as well. So far it would be my first choice for urbanized concealed carry.
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Sergiusz Mitin
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Lodz, Poland
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The neck knife is a wonderful idea both for utility and defense. After wearing a neck PECK for months now I have learned that I can't go anywhere w/o a neck knife. they are usually small knives that don't draw to much attention (which is good when surrounded by sheeple). Of course for defense I only see it as a backup upon backups but being in the Navy has taught me about redundancy. I'm planning on getting a CS Culloden and making a neck sheath for that as a replacement for my neck PECK.--Mykl
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I love neck knives though I actually rarely wear it around the neck except to go fishing...
What I like is the small size and versatility of carry, provided a good multicarry sheath such as those by REKAT, Running Dog and some others like the ones by Meerdink and Chavar. Ironically I don't care for those by Nealy with the magnets. Seems unnecesary. Just personal taste.
A a good MCS will allow horizontal/vertical belt carry, in the waistband, as well as pocket carry. The small size of neck knifes can allow for boot carry though I haven't tried this.
I find a belt carry/IWB carry to be quite accessible and slightly faster in deployment than a folder in the pocket. At home, I use the neck knives more for utility than outside. Folks get a little bit more screamish about a fixed blade it seems than about a mid size folder.
I find myself carrying both a neck knife and folder these days because of the ease of carry. Most of my neck knives have 3" and under blades.
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What I like is the small size and versatility of carry, provided a good multicarry sheath such as those by REKAT, Running Dog and some others like the ones by Meerdink and Chavar. Ironically I don't care for those by Nealy with the magnets. Seems unnecesary. Just personal taste.
A a good MCS will allow horizontal/vertical belt carry, in the waistband, as well as pocket carry. The small size of neck knifes can allow for boot carry though I haven't tried this.
I find a belt carry/IWB carry to be quite accessible and slightly faster in deployment than a folder in the pocket. At home, I use the neck knives more for utility than outside. Folks get a little bit more screamish about a fixed blade it seems than about a mid size folder.
I find myself carrying both a neck knife and folder these days because of the ease of carry. Most of my neck knives have 3" and under blades.
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I agree with the crowd on this issue. A blade over 4" gets in the way. I have several Tom Mayo skeletonized neck knives and the American Tanto with a 5" blade is too long to conceal. My favorite Mayo neck knife is the TNT style in Talonite with a 3.5" blade. My Running Dog Pup in BG-42 is a sweet carry knife, but my paws don't grip the two-finger grip for general utility work. I pawfer a full grip.
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I think neck knives are some of the most handy knives one could carry. I have several. But, there is a limit to the size for daily carry. Example: I bought a really nice R.J. Martin Kozuka to carry and use, but quickly found out it was too big for daily carry, and especially carrying under your shirt. When I tried to carry it under my shirt, it looked like I had some kind of stomach tumor! I sold that one, and had RJ make me one of his mini Kozukas. Its about right. Overall length is maybe 6.5", and it is also ground out of thinner stock. Even more handy to me, is my RJ Martin Handyman I picked up at the Janesville show in March. I cant stop playing with that knife! I'm always using it for one thing or another. Just for fun, I'm gonna have big John Fitch make me a neck knife. This boy makes hunting knives for himself with 10" blades!
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Nobody has mentioned it, but I found Crawford's neck knife to be excellent for that purpose. It has a 2.75" blade and about 6" overall. Very secure grip for 1/8" bare ATS-34 and a thin edge.
I don't like knives over 3" or so in the neck role, though sometimes I carry my RJ Martin in less social settings. I have two sheaths for it and it carries much better in the IWB one. That's one of my favorite knives.
-Bart
I don't like knives over 3" or so in the neck role, though sometimes I carry my RJ Martin in less social settings. I have two sheaths for it and it carries much better in the IWB one. That's one of my favorite knives.
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I've just recently gotten into neck knives - now I'm a big fan. I like Livesay knives, so I bought a cord wrapped LP, and a plain handled WOO. I just got back from 10 days in the mountains (near Pike's Peak). I wore one of the neck knives constantly. The LP has a 3" blade, the WOO is about 3 1/4. Both are 1/8" 1095 steel. I think the overall length is about 7 1/2". I don't know the exact weight, but neither were uncomfortable. The LP has a better utility geometry, so I usually wore it. No matter what kind of shirt I wore, the only thing noticeable is the knot in the cord at the back of your neck. I can't tell you the number of times I've gone into REI, and had someone ask me what kind of pocket knife I carry (they notice the clip). I've never been asked about the neck knives.
I like folders, but I prefer the extra utility and security of a fixed blade. To me, accessing a neck knife is just as easy, even one handed with a shirt tucked in, as any folder. The only advantadge a folder has is they are easier to put away one handed (for me, not a big issue). The neck knife has many advantages - it'll never fold over on your fingers, no matter what you do, it's more concealable (no pocket clip), it's less threatening to sheeple (are you getting a quarter from your pocket, or your folder?), it's thinner and lighter than a comparably sized folder, easier to access in some situations (sitting in car with seat belt, no pockets, etc.) ,etc. etc.
Just my opinions, I still like and carry folders, but I now prefer neck knives...
I like folders, but I prefer the extra utility and security of a fixed blade. To me, accessing a neck knife is just as easy, even one handed with a shirt tucked in, as any folder. The only advantadge a folder has is they are easier to put away one handed (for me, not a big issue). The neck knife has many advantages - it'll never fold over on your fingers, no matter what you do, it's more concealable (no pocket clip), it's less threatening to sheeple (are you getting a quarter from your pocket, or your folder?), it's thinner and lighter than a comparably sized folder, easier to access in some situations (sitting in car with seat belt, no pockets, etc.) ,etc. etc.
Just my opinions, I still like and carry folders, but I now prefer neck knives...
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I just bought a CRKT Stiff KISS "Neck Knife", and I love the darn thing!.
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...Perfect length, light-weight, and a great design (model CR3210), all at a great price...
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...Perfect length, light-weight, and a great design (model CR3210), all at a great price...
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Being in the military, the neck knife is a great asset...wearing it over your T-shirt and under your blouse; this method provides instant access. I've found the "flatter" versions more to my liking, as they don't role. I only have a few, but the best ones are the REKAT Hobbit Fang and my RJ Martin Handiman. The Handiman is probably one of the best all round utility neck knives, and one I use quite often around the house.
For me, if the blade gets much beyond 3", then I just go for another type of carry, ie SOB, Shouler rig, IWB...the only thing I've found a large bladed neck knife is good for is playing with it during an extra long bowel movement
Just make sure you don't drop it
Dave
For me, if the blade gets much beyond 3", then I just go for another type of carry, ie SOB, Shouler rig, IWB...the only thing I've found a large bladed neck knife is good for is playing with it during an extra long bowel movement
Dave
Hello all,
I just recently bought my first neck knife. Its a RunningDog PUP...made of Talonite. It's their first Talonite PUP and first Talonite knife for that matter, and I love it. The size is perfect, and the sheath is secure and versatile. I used to carry folding knives, but no more. It's a neck knife all the way...
I just recently bought my first neck knife. Its a RunningDog PUP...made of Talonite. It's their first Talonite PUP and first Talonite knife for that matter, and I love it. The size is perfect, and the sheath is secure and versatile. I used to carry folding knives, but no more. It's a neck knife all the way...
I love a good neck knife , but I've had a hard time finding one light enough with a sheath that wouldn't twist under your shirt.
I found the light knife in the totally skelatonized Master fixed blade but I had to make my on sheath. It's alittle more complicated to make than the standard Kydex sheath but it lays flat and won't twist on the cord under your shirt. The weight of the Knife and sheath is 3 0zs. Let me know what you think.
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I found the light knife in the totally skelatonized Master fixed blade but I had to make my on sheath. It's alittle more complicated to make than the standard Kydex sheath but it lays flat and won't twist on the cord under your shirt. The weight of the Knife and sheath is 3 0zs. Let me know what you think.