need helping chossing between brkt,fallkniven,and rat cutlery

pimpnugget

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i need help chossing between a bark river north star,fallkniven f1,and a rat cutlery rc-4 i cant chose between the 3 the knife will be used for bushcrafting,light carveing,and outher task like rope cutting and 1 last thing i do live in a very in a place where there is alout of humidity so which should i choose?:confused:
 
For bushcraft work, light carving, and stuff like rope cutting, any of them will work great. However, you stated that you live in an area with high humidity. In that case, I'd go with the Fallkniven, as it's stainless. The RC-4 would work well, too, as it has a coated blade, but the edge could still degrade from rust. Honestly, though, as long as you regularly oil the blade, you shouldn't have rust problems with any type of steel. As an upside, the Fallkniven is probabaly the toughest out of the three, as well, due to the laminated blade.
 
Best of both worlds:

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You can get the F1 with custom handles HERE.

I have two of them and the contours on the micarta handles are fantastic.

PLUS they cost less than the micarta handled F1GM. :)

If I didn't have so darned many F1s already that natural canvas F1 would be coming my way. :eek:

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pimpnugget said:
why i though they make awsome knives
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They do. He's basing it on politics. There is a very large thread in GB&U on the subject. If you want a knife from a company with no bad politics, RAT is your only choice among the three. That said, if you don't care about politics, they are all great knives.
 
I knew about the bad politics of BRKT, but I haven't heard anything about Fallkniven. What's wrong with them?:confused:
 
Gunfucius said:
I knew about the bad politics of BRKT, but I haven't heard anything about Fallkniven. What's wrong with them?:confused:
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There is nothing wrong with them. The knives are excellent. I recently picked up an S1, and will be getting a larger model soon.

As for politics. Some people find it disingenuous that the knives have no country of origin, and are advertised very prominently with "Sweden", when the knives are actually made in Japan.

Also, Fallkniven started life as a European Cold Steel distributor. They later decided to get into the production business. It's said that they started their manufacturing by having Cold Steel's Japanese factory produce their knives on CS's tooling without CS's knowledge. This being the reason certain CS knives and certain Fallkniven knives are so similar.

But, like I said, they make great knives.
 
The Bark River NS would be the best Bushcrafter out of those three. I have used all of them and the NS is easily the best at carving.
 
kiahs said:
They do. He's basing it on politics. There is a very large thread in GB&U on the subject. If you want a knife from a company with no bad politics, RAT is your only choice among the three. That said, if you don't care about politics, they are all great knives.
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Up until a few days ago, I thought Bark River had no bad company politics. Then "that" thread happened, and some eye opening stories followed with it.

Same for Cold Steel, Leatherman, Strider, and many others over the years.

Basing purchase decisions on perceived company politics is not easy. For all we know, next year we'll find out that RAT Cutlery isn't the saint that their fans claim they are......
 
pimpnugget said:
i need help chossing between a bark river north star,fallkniven f1,and a rat cutlery rc-4 i cant chose between the 3 the knife will be used for bushcrafting,light carveing,and outher task like rope cutting and 1 last thing i do live in a very in a place where there is alout of humidity so which should i choose?:confused:
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just use your buck 110 for a while, it shoud do great for what you asked
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jacktrades_nbk said:
just use your buck 110 for a while, it shoud do great for what you asked
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True.

Also, your Twistmaster or Mora piggybacking your Recon Scout would be an excellent combo. Though who am I to dissuade someone from an unnecessary knife purchase. :D
 
Tony_A said:
Basing purchase decisions on perceived company politics is not easy. For all we know, next year we'll find out that RAT Cutlery isn't the saint that their fans claim they are......
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Right. I've pretty much given up on basing my purchases on politics. There are a few knife companies I wouldn't buy from, based on their owners and the possibility that I would have to deal with them directly for warranty or service though.
 
kiahs said:
True.

Also, your Twistmaster or Mora piggybacking your Recon Scout would be an excellent combo. Though who am I to dissuade someone from an unnecessary knife purchase. :D
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i would man but i midght trade or sell it
 
kiahs said:
True.

Also, your Twistmaster or Mora piggybacking your Recon Scout would be an excellent combo. Though who am I to dissuade someone from an unnecessary knife purchase. :D
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i forget some thing mt cold steel recon scout guard i loose and the twist master has realy bad rust problem :mad:
 
kiahs said:
There is nothing wrong with them. The knives are excellent. I recently picked up an S1, and will be getting a larger model soon.

As for politics. Some people find it disingenuous that the knives have no country of origin, and are advertised very prominently with "Sweden", when the knives are actually made in Japan.

Also, Fallkniven started life as a European Cold Steel distributor. They later decided to get into the production business. It's said that they started their manufacturing by having Cold Steel's Japanese factory produce their knives on CS's tooling without CS's knowledge. This being the reason certain CS knives and certain Fallkniven knives are so similar.

But, like I said, they make great knives.
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Well. If you had read up on the history on Fallkniven you would know that the first knives were made by Linder in Germany, that as far as I know doesnt have anything to do with Cold Steel.
In about 1997 the production moved to Japan where they started using VG10 steel. If the Fallkniven knives were made in the same factory as CS I dont know. However there are more resemblence between the Linder hunting knife and the F1 than between the F1 and the CS Master Hunter.
Do you have any sources for this information other than "it's said"?

Not buying things because they are made in a different country is so ignorant. So if you were to buy a Ford and figured out that that particular vehicle was assembled in Japan would you not buy it then?

Well, IKEA is Swedish, or actually owned by a organisation in Schwitzerland (not Sweden), all the gadgets they sell are made all over the world. SAAB is swedish, but owned by a car company on the brink of bankrupcy, in a country that has run its economy down the drain which has effected the whole worlds economy.
The same goes with Volvo.
 
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