DeadboxHero
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I haven't seen any pictures of your work. Show me.
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Need some advice for regrinding a PM2
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No. What, you want to see sharpened knives? Anybody can post anything and say it is theirs. When I teach people I show them how and tell them why. I couldn't care less if you don't believe me. I have nothing to prove, to anyone, especially to people with myopic beliefs.
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THAT'LL WORK !
It's looking fine.
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Well . . .
sounds like you have been spared from all my novellas written here over the years on what I like for a knife handle shape, the whys, the where fores, the endless comparisons and micro details.
. . . and just when I thought there were no victims left . . .
I'll spare you links to all that, until you least expect it, and just say that the Cold Steel Ti Lite IV handle (length, shape, thickness etc.) is one of my all time favorite handles and IT JUST HAPPENS TO COME WITH this silly useless blade in it and I tend to have this affliction that compels me to grind one into something useful now and again.
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Please with all due respect
and considering your dubious but welcome defense of the shade tree mechanic's milling machine (bench grinder) . . .
DeadboxHero deserves more respect than that .
MUCH ! MORE !
You have proven by your statement that you are a new member here . . . oh look I'm wrong 2006 . . . just behaving like a new member then are we ? Sounds like you need to check up on all that Deadbox has done with knives in the last few years and all that he has contributed here in testing of stones etc.
In short Chill Dude.
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Ouch, I hate when that happens.
Oh well, time to make some new scales
Don't we love this hobby; it's self perpetuating. (is that a word ?)
Now... The moment we all have been waiting for... The reveal!
I am happy to report that the tip does fit inside the scales.
Overall I'm happy with my first blade mod. Turned out pretty good, and this project has opened up a whole other realm to what I thought I was capable of in regards to being a knife enthusiast.
Thanks everyone for the help, and happy modding.
I am happy to report that the tip does fit inside the scales.
Overall I'm happy with my first blade mod. Turned out pretty good, and this project has opened up a whole other realm to what I thought I was capable of in regards to being a knife enthusiast.
Thanks everyone for the help, and happy modding.
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YES !
SUCCESS !
This has opened up a can of worms though. Now I'm looking into designing folders, and researching supply places for steel, hardware, handle materials, ECT.
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Not to rain on your parade but the best blades (even just decent blades) require some pretty sophisticated and time consuming heat treat cycles.
I'll post a link to a vid.
As far as handles, to get the dambed knife to swing right and feel good (think Chris Reeve or even my Benchmade 940-1) , the liners AND SCALES need to be machined VERY precisely. Pencil marks and a hand held drill just are not going to do it.
I've rehandled some flippers and just having the holes off a couple of thousandths torqued the titanium frame of the knife that was working great before with the factory scales, into a disappointing product. I was able, with some trial and error to clean up the action but . . .
I'm just saying . . .
I'll post a couple of vids in a future post ( and these guys are not exaggerating this is what it takes to make a knife that will make a connoisseur smile ).
PS: I would call myself a connoisseur (I can tell sort of good stuff from the actual good stuff)
but
I'm not a knife maker and I have spent some fifty one years of my life now doing metal work of one kind or another every year since I was eight, literally starting out cutting and drilling on my bicycles.
I just made this fairly precise part for a guy custom from heat treated 6061-T6 aluminum and got paid well enough for it it allowed me to afford a Sebenza 21 . . . could I make the Sebenza ? . . . we l l l l . . . not yet (if ever).
It started out looking like this and here is a short progression
He wanted something stronger than this original part
I basically traded that for this
Here are some flipper handle scales. I finally got the knives to start working right again.
Wasn't a piece of cake. The aluminum part above was pretty much a piece of cake / no problem. I even had to make custom cutters to cut the counter bores because I couldn't find any to buy.
That was a piece of cake first try. Making the knife scales wasn't a piece of cake.
The two flippers in the photo below with the black back ground are both Urban Trappers like the Black scaled knife in this photo with the red back ground. Disregard the Stag handled knife.
I'll post a link to a vid.
As far as handles, to get the dambed knife to swing right and feel good (think Chris Reeve or even my Benchmade 940-1) , the liners AND SCALES need to be machined VERY precisely. Pencil marks and a hand held drill just are not going to do it.
I've rehandled some flippers and just having the holes off a couple of thousandths torqued the titanium frame of the knife that was working great before with the factory scales, into a disappointing product. I was able, with some trial and error to clean up the action but . . .
I'm just saying . . .
I'll post a couple of vids in a future post ( and these guys are not exaggerating this is what it takes to make a knife that will make a connoisseur smile ).
PS: I would call myself a connoisseur (I can tell sort of good stuff from the actual good stuff)
but
I'm not a knife maker and I have spent some fifty one years of my life now doing metal work of one kind or another every year since I was eight, literally starting out cutting and drilling on my bicycles.
I just made this fairly precise part for a guy custom from heat treated 6061-T6 aluminum and got paid well enough for it it allowed me to afford a Sebenza 21 . . . could I make the Sebenza ? . . . we l l l l . . . not yet (if ever).
It started out looking like this and here is a short progression
He wanted something stronger than this original part
I basically traded that for this
Here are some flipper handle scales. I finally got the knives to start working right again.
Wasn't a piece of cake. The aluminum part above was pretty much a piece of cake / no problem. I even had to make custom cutters to cut the counter bores because I couldn't find any to buy.
That was a piece of cake first try. Making the knife scales wasn't a piece of cake.
The two flippers in the photo below with the black back ground are both Urban Trappers like the Black scaled knife in this photo with the red back ground. Disregard the Stag handled knife.
I won't be heat treating myself. Found a guy in the services section of the knife exchange, so ill outsource heat treating probably to him. I want to make an M4 lockback folder. Won't be anything fancy at all. Mainly just a proof of concept to show myself that I can do it.
I won't be turning any heads, but the self accomplishment will make it all worth it. Lockbacks are a fairly simple design. I would like to do something with liners, but that would be too sophisticated and time consuming for my available resources. I'm a mechanic by trade, surely not a machinist. So lock back it is.
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Now you're talking. I love the stuff.
My fav is Cold Steel's 6061-T6 liners in their Voyagers and I just got a Counter Point with the same liner material. Very light very strong not as prone to warp as the titanium though my Urban Trappers all work great / not warped (that is until I foul 'em up with my big old scales).
I'll be looking for your future threads on knife making
M4 is my favorite steel. Just hard finding many knives. If it's not a special release you can't find them, mush less one that you like. Luckily I can get a 10in x 2in sheet for around $40. Thick enough where I'll just fashion the knife straight from the sheet.Now you're talking. I love the stuff.
My fav is Cold Steel's 6061-T6 liners in their Voyagers and I just got a Counter Point with the same liner material. Very light very strong not as prone to warp as the titanium though my Urban Trappers all work great / not warped (that is until I foul 'em up with my big old scales).
I'll be looking for your future threads on knife making
Hollow grind or maybe flat grind, either carbon fiber or titanium scales, and hopefully a final product worthy of kicking my PM2 out of my pocket for my work edc.
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Tell me about it
Call that a "flat" or a "bar".
You like Ti ? !
Here's some Ti. I drooled over this for years with it in my cart on line. Then one day the price dropped to this crazy low price and I pounced. Must have been some terrible mistake but . . . hey . . . I'll take it !
I want to make hollow handle / scales for my Doug Ritter M390 Griptillian. Not that I don't appreciate the stock scales, I do, I just like Ti more. My day job has been so scary and now weird that I have been worn out by it. Maybe this winter I will find the time and creative energy to cut up this plate
Found this website alpha knife supply in the paid membership vendors on this site. Been scoping around on there today. Place is a wonderland and pushing me further down the rabbit hole. Not only all kinds of different steels, but more scale materials than I care to count, as well as all the hardware needed to make a knife, including ball bearings for flippers.Tell me about it
Call that a "flat" or a "bar".
You like Ti ? !
Here's some Ti. I drooled over this for years with it in my cart on line. Then one day the price dropped to this crazy low price and I pounced. Must have been some terrible mistake but . . . hey . . . I'll take it !
I want to make hollow handle / scales for my Doug Ritter M390 Griptillian. Not that I don't appreciate the stock scales, I do, I just like Ti more. My day job has been so scary and now weird that I have been worn out by it. Maybe this winter I will find the time and creative energy to cut up this plate
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I have a feeling I'm going to wish I never found that site.
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You know what scares me ? Taking the rivet pins out of a plain old Traditional. I have yet to do it.
Maybe I'll get some pin material from Alpha and go for it.
Thanks for the tip.
I'm going to sign off now and find some food items to put in my mouth.
Nice talking with you
Cheers
And so do I. Take it to WC if you don't like it. I don't care about stones, stopped using them decades ago.Please with all due respect
and considering your dubious but welcome defense of the shade tree mechanic's milling machine (bench grinder) . . .
DeadboxHero deserves more respect than that .
MUCH ! MORE !
You have proven by your statement that you are a new member here . . . oh look I'm wrong 2006 . . . just behaving like a new member then are we ? Sounds like you need to check up on all that Deadbox has done with knives in the last few years and all that he has contributed here in testing of stones etc.
In short Chill Dude.
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The post you quoted is from Saturday, leave it alone.
Discuss the topic and not each other.