Need traditional help for hunting season!

CUTS LIKE A KRIS

CUTS LIKE A KRIS

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I have my selection for hunting season down pat for this year with the exception of the slip joint that I want to carry. I made the other knives and hafted the hawk, and want to be a bit traditional as I am carrying a 100 year old 38-40 with me this year. Here are the Fixed blades I am carrying for you to compare:
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Here are the choices I have taken it down to:
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The executive wharncliffe is with me every day for work and I want to carry it for the stag and patina in the 1095, and to prove the worth of the knife in the woods as it seems to get a "light use only" tag and I think it could handle the work I would put it through.

I carried the Case Damascus last year but did not get to use it on anything as I only went for a morning and was skunked. It is a very keen slicer and looks great- I like using my lookers.

The S&M is stainless, but is very solid, cuts well and has the modified awl that is its biggest draw as it is a great extra tool. The spear has the point and the secondary blade has plenty of belly.

The Canal Street Cannitler is a great steel in D2, has all of the blades I would need and is a canoe base which I love.

I don't need the knife to be exactly traditional, as each would have something that might disqualify it. I will be backpacking into the bush for up to 4 days and 3 nights, and will be doing some bushcraft as well. I may go against what the majority picks, but am going to listen to the reasons why each would be your choice.

For a point of reference- my ultimate slipjoint would have a wharncliffe main blade, a hawksbill and full belly secondary (spey without the top clip), and an awl like on a SAK. (probably with musk ox scales- but I have not found anybody to make it with me)

Thanks in advance for any replies.
 
i second mamba on the canal street. none of these appeal to me but the canal is the most versatile. the gec is too limited in blade profile. i believe a good muskrat would serve you better.
dennis
 
Thanks for the replies so far. Dennis- The muskrat is a pattern that does not appeal to me at all either, similar to how a trapper does not do much for me. Proving why there is such diversity in knives out there. Plus with me it seems like there has to be 3 blades to make me happy, with a few exceptions.
 
A GEC 23 or 73 single blade might be the most useful in fact, due to clean up tasks. But, since you like the 3 blade format I'd take the CASE Stockman along. Damascus on a hunting trip is an interesting eccentricity. Good luck!
 
check out the gec stock whittler. one big clip & 2 BIG LITTLE BLADES. HAS 3 BACK SPRINGS & IS THE KNIFE I WOULD TAKE IF I wAS GOING INTO AFrICA OR ALASKA FOR A MONTH . i'm a klutch on computers . notice unintended capital letters.
dennis
 
Im all for the Case Stockman. Its a gorgeous knife and would do everything you'd need.
 
Hi,

I've been carrying a Case Gunboat for my main hunting knife since last year. So I would go with the Canal Street Canitller. Love the blade choices and since your's is D2, it should be a great user.

Dale
 
The Executive wharncliffe is too light
If you want the awl/punch then the S&M
Case Damascus is nice
But the Canal Street Cannitler in D2 will hold an edge much longer
 
I would take the S&M or the Case. Have other ideas of corse but I think you ask very precisely about these four. I think that is wise, why bother by a new knife for a little hunting trip. Personally I like a point when hunting and the case has a good main blade.

The slim knife looks good and I read you say you want to take it, so mabye that is what to do. Plenty of cutting edge in your pack even if that pattern dont look much of a hunter. Nice to hear if it can cope with food and campfire.

Rereading your post I would say go with the GEC and tell us if it was strong enough for campshores but dont expect it to work great on game.

Im more than a bit interested in what you hunt.

Now to a reflektion, Im not intended or meaning to offend you but am so curious about your choice of fixed blades.
Here it goes:
No swedish hunter I know about would have taken fixed blade knifes or an axe like that for hunting. That inkludes as well hunting for moose and bear, or smallgame like deer, birds or rabbit. Wery wide blades arent common here at all. Seams to me that your selection isnt unusual on the other side of the world. We must be influenced by traditions to make such different choices.
Here is the part I dont want you to be offended of but if I here in Sweden showed up with a fixed blade as your smaller one its likely people would make jokes about the knife and an axe like that would probobly bring a laugh or two with coments about spliting wood as an indian.
I can easyly see them funktion as I know 90% of using a hunting knife belongs to the hand holding the knife and the experience of taking care of game.
I bring a slipjoint to my hunting but seldom use it when we are gathered as that olso is a type of knife that brings humorus coments from my friends. That said I think slipjoints can do most every huntingtask good, they have no history here though.

Bosse
 
nirrebosse certainly gave us a new perspective. he's correct in his cbservation since his part of the world is dominated by the pukko. we ca'nt discount that the pukko is highly effective since millions of moose & caribou have been rendered with this tool. swedish cutlery history brings to mind only one type folder which was the barrell knife. i think that the extreme cold meant a lot of trouble digging thru layers of garmets to get to a pocket knife. whatever --you are an american & we do things dictated by personal perferance. i'm sure nirrebosse would get some heavy chuckles in texas if he was toting a pukko.not fighting with nirrebosse just countering his commentary.
dennis
 
Hello Dennis And cuts like a kris.
I dont feel fighted att all. I just found this interesting. I have had thoughts about this before but this was the post where I tryed to write about it. A little anoying to write in english about a thing like this as one is afraid to get missunderstood but this is on the other hand the forum to stick out the chin as its such a friendly atmosfere. I think you are right about the cold wether at least when it comes to hunting, also its about strong traditions and witch tools you lerned to work with. There has been folders of jack, pen and scout type made by manufacturers in Eskilstuna from the late 1800-ds but they didnt develop to every mans posession here in the north parts anyway. It was mostly sunday knifes. Most often they had a corkscrew because of the former beerbottles needed one.Me and my huntingbuddys is from the big forests with small villages and the old men worked with construction or lumber and farming. But my first post conserns how it is when we hunt. this aint bad jokes but a little tiersome if you and your equipment are the target for the jokes.
One last thing aboute geting knuckled in Texas. Dont you carry a sheatknife when hunting or is it the scandi design thats unusual. I have always pictured texas as the hevenly kingdom of free nature and thought that a texan could have as big knife as he wisched. See I cant hold back my shin in this thread. Im so curious sometimes.

Bosse
 
Sorry cuts like a Kris to stray of in your thread.

It would be interesting if you brought that GEC. Its not the typical knife but a gentlemans pocketknife of good quality. As you bring good fixedblades I reacon its more for general use. All of the other ones is of good hunting wilderness design and should not lead to any surprice but that GEC is a different thing. Slender with narrow blades and blade design more headed to urban EDC as I see it. Is it a split backspring with rather thick stock for the main blade?

Bosse
 
You already carry the GEC as an edc and said you would like to carry it. I say take the GEC with you. If it surprises you as to what it can do on your trip you will have reinforced your bond with it and have good memories of your day to day friend.
 
the gec i recommended has 3 back springs & certainly a heavy duty folder. for hunting if you wish to go with a folder the single blade pioneer is plenty of knife. these are known as the mdl.23. i did 2 whitetails with mine last year but i prefer a straight knife because cleanup is much simpler . our texas winters are much milder than sweden so it's not necessary to wear gloves while cleaning game for the majority of the winter days.
dennis
 
NirreBosse said:
I would take the S&M or the Case. Have other ideas of corse but I think you ask very precisely about these four. I think that is wise, why bother by a new knife for a little hunting trip. Personally I like a point when hunting and the case has a good main blade.

The slim knife looks good and I read you say you want to take it, so mabye that is what to do. Plenty of cutting edge in your pack even if that pattern dont look much of a hunter. Nice to hear if it can cope with food and campfire.

Rereading your post I would say go with the GEC and tell us if it was strong enough for campshores but dont expect it to work great on game.

Im more than a bit interested in what you hunt.

Now to a reflektion, Im not intended or meaning to offend you but am so curious about your choice of fixed blades.
Here it goes:
No swedish hunter I know about would have taken fixed blade knifes or an axe like that for hunting. That inkludes as well hunting for moose and bear, or smallgame like deer, birds or rabbit. Wery wide blades arent common here at all. Seams to me that your selection isnt unusual on the other side of the world. We must be influenced by traditions to make such different choices.
Here is the part I dont want you to be offended of but if I here in Sweden showed up with a fixed blade as your smaller one its likely people would make jokes about the knife and an axe like that would probobly bring a laugh or two with coments about spliting wood as an indian.
I can easyly see them funktion as I know 90% of using a hunting knife belongs to the hand holding the knife and the experience of taking care of game.
I bring a slipjoint to my hunting but seldom use it when we are gathered as that olso is a type of knife that brings humorus coments from my friends. That said I think slipjoints can do most every huntingtask good, they have no history here though.

Bosse
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I have no problem at all with any of the posts on this thread, so don't worry about offense! Heck I laugh at myself all the time so others surely can as well. Most likely I will be by myself hunting so I'm not too worried about getting laughed at by my fellow hunters, unless the knives fail and then I'll laugh at myself.

I understand exactly what you mean about the wide blades. I made them and thought it would be a great chance to try them in real world experience. I find that a wide blade allows the knife to be used with more hand grips and tracks straighter. This is one other set that I thought of carrying that you might like:
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Traditional Puuko and Koyote Leuko. I'm of Norwegian heritage so that will most likely be the back up at the farm in case of failure of my blades.

I took the neck knife out with me last year as an add on of the nessmuk trio with the Damascus Case. I have not used other neck knives much since I made this one, and have used the Case in pocket many times, just not on a successful hunt:
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The GEC is not very thick compared to the others, here is a backspacer view, it does have tapered liners and a thicker main blade.
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I have absolutely no extra money right now, so I am using knives I have. I appreciate the suggestions for other knives and will look into these suggestions at a later date. I still don't know what I'll take- but the "challenges" that the whittler won't handle it are getting the stubborn streak going:rolleyes:;):D

Any other comments are greatly appreciated.
 
Man, do I feel embaresed. You made the knifes yourself. To make this absolutly clear. I dont find your knifes funny but interesting. I dont mind a wide blade but tradition makes us nothern swedes make jokes about kitchenknifes if somone show up with a to different and broad knife.
I to do my own fixed blade knifes and the one I like best and using myself the most has the blade at an slight angle backwards and even though its a pukkostyle sheatknife it get jokes once in a while. Also becayse I made the handle slightly longer than average to give a good grip with glowes.
I realy like the knife I think you call nesmuck, should be good for moose.

Is that your hunting rifle (and without scope) Quite a chalenge hunting with that type of rifle.
Im glad my post didnt get missunderstood.

Bosse
 
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