Never be organized or prepared - too dangerous! (pics)

Really Nice Pics, Its nice to know You Canadians are well armed and prepared to protect the north from egg invaders. Thats a really nice rifle,

Though The pics are nice to look at, I really have to question You girlfriends choice in clothing for the out doors :) (Mine complains cause i make her wear sleeves in the woods and on the motorcycle)

I keep hearing about canadas Restrictive gun laws, is this just about handguns ?

Prohibited and restricted firearms, like pistols, and anything other than hunting shot guns and rifles.

There really inst a whole lot to go through, a few coruses and your good to go.
 
Yeah, Canadian gun laws are just...complicated.

Coming from New Jersey you would probably not find them restrictive. I believe New Jersey is at least as restrictive as Canada. But people from New Mexico, say, or New Hampshire, probably would find them restrictive.

A big part of the problem is that all Canadian firearms law is technically criminal law, and all criminal law is federal. Consequently, we have middle-ground laws that are not as restrictive as Quebec would like, but much more restrictive than the West would like - probably similar to how it would be in the US if one set of gun laws had to cover both Alaska and Massachusets.

There are three classes, non-restricted (most non-black rifles and virtually every shotgun, including shorties) restricted (scary black rifles and most handguns) and prohibited (full auto, small handguns, some random guns that appeared in a movie and gave a legislator a scary dream once.) All three are legal to own and enjoy...but prohibited stuff is pretty complicated to get if you weren't grandfathered in to the current laws (1996 vintage.) But like everything else, where there is a will, and ready money, there is a way.



Let me just preface this little rant with the statement that it is not directed at anyone here, but just that I was thinking about related events as the result of this thread. Nobody said anything that I find offensive at all, this is purely a random outburst I thought you might find interesting.



You know, people often question Erin's choice of clothing in the outdoors, and elsewhere in fact. But to be honest it's pretty practical. If it's hot, she's not wearing much, and there's really no reason shorts would be better than a skirt. I was wearing pants, and I was way too hot.

When we hiked the Grand Canyon a few years ago, some local guide person gave her this big lecture on account of the fact that she was wearing a spandexy mini-dress that would look more normal in a nightclub. Well, sure, it looked different than what other girls were wearing, but lots of girls we passed on the trails were wearing shorts and a tank top, and while the shorts were probably a little longer than Erin's dress, I have a hard time imagining exactly what serious injury an extra four or six inches of fabric on a person's thighs is supposed to prevent. The guide just looked at her in this dress that looked out of place and concluded it was impractical, and started criticizing her for it. Being a guest in the country, I was fairly polite and ignored the person. But if that had happened here, I would have just lost it! Don't be telling my girlfriend what to do about ANYTHING unless it is specifically infringing on someone else's personal rights - which is pretty damn unlikely to be the case. I don't go around telling everyone to carry knives or wear cowboy hats, so anyone who thinks they ought to be making decisions for me or anyone under my protection is free at any time to headbutt a series of increasingly large, abrasive concrete blocks until they collapse.

We were at a movie a while ago, and Erin went and got seats, and I went back to get seventy-dollar popcorn or whatever they charge now, and in the line ahead of me were a couple of women in their mid-thirties. When I got in line, one of them was in the middle of saying, "I know! I mean you could practically see her panties. Like, could that skirt BE any shorter?" and the other one said, "and what's with the heels? Like how could she even walk in those? I would NEVER leave the house like that."
"She was a slut," said the first woman. Okay, that was it for me.
"Hey," I said. "If you want to feel better about yourself, don't put other people down. Why not try doing something positive, like going to the gym? You'll feel better, and you'll look better, and after a while, you might start feeling like you could dress however you want, too. You could lose a bit of weight, put more effort into your appearance, and then, when you saw girls walking around that looked like that girl, you wouldn't have to call them names to feel better. You could probably be happy for them, that they are doing what they want to do and being who they want to be."

They looked like I'd punched them both in the stomach. They didn't say anything at all, and when they got to the counter, they didn't order any food. One said, "no, nothing for me," and the other said, "I'm okay" Then they walked away from the concession stand, and talked for a minute, and walked back out the front door towards the parking lot.

Why be negative? Just be happy there are hot chicks walking around in skimpy clothes. I know I am!
 
Since terms like "short" and "mini" are relative, I think you should post pictures of Erin wearing the offensive clothes so we can judge for ourselves.
 
Let me just preface this little rant.....

It sucks when you have to deal with other people's stereotypes, insecurities, stupidity, etc.

Most punk/rockabilly-esque women are great to look at, but they generally also posses so many of the qualities (e.g., self-confidence, intelligence, open-mindedness, strength of character.) that I hope my daughter grows to have. As a whole, I've never met a cooler bunch of chicks.

Don't even get me started about the prejudices against pit bulls. (Your pooch is a pit bull, right?)

I think that the tree you asked about might be a shagbark hickory, but I can't really tell from the picture.
 
While a student, I also had a 64 Chevelle. Mine was two door coupe. It worked very well off road, since that is all I had. On one trip to shoot in the desert, I worked my way up a canyon until getting stuck too often. I parked on a hard surface and went to shooting. Some others came bounding up with a Jeep CJ. After noting how hard it was to get in the canyon, they asked what I drove. I pointed to my Chevelle. To prove they were superior, they pushed farther in. A half hour later, they walked back asking if I could help extract their CJ. All I could do was offer a ride into town, since I couldn't get over all those rocks. With an appreciation for the limitations of your 64, it is amazing where you can go.

Spud
 
I am green with envy, f'ing Clinton and his executive order. A sweet rifle for $400. I am getting ready to shell out a nearly a grand for an AR. I'd rather have an M14 or an M1a but they are well over a grand.
 
Man I cant blame you for your rant, I used to get crap for wearing a leather or Camo jacket all the time, and it pissed me off, I got searched by cops one too many times when i wasnt doing anything.

I dont Like shorts in the woods, and I usually dont wear them unless its extremeley Hot, i usually go with light weight Bdus or something similar., I also wear sleeves at least to the elbow , But then again I sunburn easily and feel no need to get my skin cut up while bushwahking if my clothes can take the brunt.

You are right though, just because an outfit looks unorthadox doesent mean its not practical, alot of my male freinds werar Kilts while camping, and one woman I know wears long cotton skirts, I guess it comes down to what works for you

If you girlfreind is comfortable in what she wears good for her, :D
 
Sorry, I was just trying to be funny. I guess I wasn't.

Hey, dude, nothing to do with you, I was actually thinking of a later post, which itself was not the problem - it just reminded me of a different situation.

I wish I was going to the Kamloops show this weekend, but I'm not.

I did get a super birthday deal on a Surefire Defender 6P at Dave's, though. Regular $92+tax, OTD for about seventy bucks. They treat us good!
 
The gun is a Norinco. These are prohibited in the US (unfortunately you guys can't get them due to an executive order under Clinton - I don't know the details but none of the new generation of Norks can be brought in to your country.)

Up here they are very common. The receiver is forged and in spec, unlike the Springfields. The op rods are very tough. They are a very well built gun - cosmetically worse than the SA stuff, but functionally better.

They cost $400 each here. Consequently they are owned by every male over the age of three. Canada - more heavily armed than you would expect!

There are basically three nice things about the Canadian gun situation:

1. the Nork M14s
2. Short barreled shotguns are non-restricted guns and you can get them CHEEP
3. if you have an AR15, and you want a short barrel on it, no problem. You see 16 inchers...and 11 inchers...and 7.5 inchers...I think that's the shortest I've seen.

Other than that it's not all that great for guns here. Although many states have it worse!

Oh, also - more pics of the gf can always be found at canadiangunslingers.com.

The ban on these were lifted by the Bush administration. To sum up the reason for the ban by the clintons it was classified as an assault weapon and the importation of such arms were prohibited... Of course when asked what qaulifies as an assault weapon the libs respond anything that throws a projectile at a velocity harder than a baby... I do love this country though... where else would i be permitted to own the quantity of so called weapons that i have? (i refer to all my firearms appr. 204 of them and my knives several hundred of these as well as tools and not weapons.) This is a great country to live in indeed.... i just wish the liberals would go somewhere else that is governed by their dream of dictation!

NEVER attempt to dictate a free people!
 
No, they are still prohibited. You can try to order one from the supplier if you like; you cannot get them. The Norks you guys have are from the old run. These are newer and better - a lot better. I wish they weren't prohibited in the US, but that's the unfortunate reality.

Anyway one other place you could have a couple hundred guns would be Canada. I don't know about other countries, though.
 
William M. - It's not an M1a. It's a Norinco M14s, which, if you check with Different (if you know M14s you'll know who I mean!) is not an M1a, it'a an M14. I have a couple here and four more in the mail. What can I say? I like M14s, and for $400 you really can't go wrong.

Wish we could get them here :(
 
No, they are still prohibited. You can try to order one from the supplier if you like; you cannot get them. The Norks you guys have are from the old run. These are newer and better - a lot better. I wish they weren't prohibited in the US, but that's the unfortunate reality.

Anyway one other place you could have a couple hundred guns would be Canada. I don't know about other countries, though.

I was totally unaware that Canada allowed it's citizens to have what some refer to as arsenals. Can you own any type of semi auto's there? what can you not own there? ammo as well? reloading,powder primers etc.? I am a huge fan of muzzleloaders and have more of them than i can count so i keep a pretty large supply of blackpowder as well as all the substitutes and large qauntity of primers and that does not include the tremendous supply of smokeless powders and primers and lead,bullets,shot, moulds, etc. I had been told by a friend that you could not even store a rifle and ammo in the same room in Canada and that only singles and doubles were legal in shotguns! I guess i wont pay much attention to what i am told without researching it from now on.
 
I was totally unaware that Canada allowed it's citizens to have what some refer to as arsenals. Can you own any type of semi auto's there? what can you not own there? ammo as well? reloading,powder primers etc.? I am a huge fan of muzzleloaders and have more of them than i can count so i keep a pretty large supply of blackpowder as well as all the substitutes and large qauntity of primers and that does not include the tremendous supply of smokeless powders and primers and lead,bullets,shot, moulds, etc. I had been told by a friend that you could not even store a rifle and ammo in the same room in Canada and that only singles and doubles were legal in shotguns! I guess i wont pay much attention to what i am told without researching it from now on.

haha, sorry but your friend lied :D

They can be in the same room, If you wanted you could class a Room as a gun cabniet, so long as it cant be "readible broken into" Thats why your not allowed to have gun cabniets with glass fronts any more. And as to what you can own, its just depends on how far you want to go on licenseing, If you go get a collectors license, prohibited and restriced. Plus you have be to talk you provincial CFO into that to let you own guns.

Hunting rifles and shot gun are obviously the easyest. Pistols really arnt that bad, next year I plan on getting my restriced firearms license.
As for military rifles, so long as you can convince your cfo, you can get it.
 
I was totally unaware that Canada allowed it's citizens to have what some refer to as arsenals. Can you own any type of semi auto's there? what can you not own there? ammo as well? reloading,powder primers etc.? I am a huge fan of muzzleloaders and have more of them than i can count so i keep a pretty large supply of blackpowder as well as all the substitutes and large qauntity of primers and that does not include the tremendous supply of smokeless powders and primers and lead,bullets,shot, moulds, etc. I had been told by a friend that you could not even store a rifle and ammo in the same room in Canada and that only singles and doubles were legal in shotguns! I guess i wont pay much attention to what i am told without researching it from now on.

Wow, your friend is totally, totally wrong. Makes me feel like walking down to the store, buying an 870 with a 12" barrel, and walking home with it, then putting it next to my bed, next to a few crates of 12 guage buck. Which, incidentally, is exactly what I did with my first M14 - walked home, set it down next to four crates (2000 rounds) of .308.

I don't know how many pounds of powder I have here right now. Fifteen? And primers? many thousands, no idea how many.

The guns we can't own are all totally random and based entirely on appearance, and even then make no sense. For instance: all AK derivants are totally prohibited. Except the Valmet, which is totally unrestricted. All handguns with a barrel length under 106(I think) mm - prohibited. All .25s, prohibited. (Because THAT'S a deadly weapon :jerkit: )

Totally unrestricted: the M14, except select fire, which are prohibited, except a lot of guys here have select fire M14s from a few years ago, when they used to be easy to come by here, and lots of them are unregistered as select-fire, and the government really has no idea.

Canada, I believe, is second only to the US in terms of private gun ownership in the Western world. There are proportionally fewer guns here than in the US - about 7 million registered (and therefore legal) guns, and import records for (if I remember correctly) another twenty million guns, which were never registered (and are therefore technically illegal...but it's only a problem in Ontario and Quebec. The West has always ignored the gun registry and refuses to enforce it.)

Anyway, I would love to stay and chat more, but I just bought a few thousand pieces of .45 brass and have to go start loading them up! I am down to a thousand loaded rounds and if my neighbourhood all turn to zombies tonight, I think I will need more than that.
 
The Canadian gun laws suck but they aren't as bad as the UK or Austrailia. Some of the US states actually have more restrictive gun laws then Canada has.
I have a Possesion and Aquisition Liscence for restricted and non-restricted Firearms, which basically means I can buy anything that is not prohibited status.
To by a non-restricted firearm such as a Marlin 336 from a private individual they merely take down my PAL information and then phone the Canadian Firearms Center with their registration number and initiate a transfer. They are then given a transfer number. I would then call in and finalize the transfer, if we were together then it could be done with one phonecall. Technically we cannot take possesion of the firearm until the transfer has been authorized, but usually the deal is done before the transfer is complete. You could say the gun was lent until the transfer was complete.

A store selling firearms can do it all on-line

To purchase a restricted firearm such as a pistol, you need to belong to a gun club and each transfer must be OK'd by the CFC before you assume possesion of the pistol.
Most people with pistols can only transport their pistol from home to the range specified on their transport liscence however some people such as trappers and prospectors can get wilderness transport liscences ans can some competative shooters.

There is still great resentment to the registration program in the west and I believe that most people in the know figure that only 1 in 3 or 1 in 4 non restricted firearms are actually registered in Canada.
 
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