Never buying liner or frame lock again!

After reading all this, I pulled my Emerson CQC-7A out of my pocket, opened it up, and spine whacked it on the leg of my desk several times.

The only thing that happened was the desk has a dent in the wood where I whacked the knife.

Knife remained locked solidly.

I have been carrying BM & EKI linerlocks for several years now, and have abused the hell out of most of them, and have NEVER had a liner lock fail.
 
I doubt there is an ideal lock type out there.

My lockbacks have frequently failed to lock open due to dirt in the notch for the lock bar.

My Sebenza has failed to lock open due to dirt in the blade´s notch for the stop pin.

My Sebenza´s lock also failed during use once. I was cutting an old shoe sole to shape for some weird experiment, and since the frame lock construction makes the index finger almost wrap around the lock bar, the twisting and pushing motions were apparently enough to disengage the lock. I am having a hard time reproducing this incident intentionally though, so I am not too worried about it happening again soon.

Balisongs might be the most failure-proof, but also require the most skill for opening, at least when one wants to open them fast and avoid getting hurt.
 
Grey Area:
If you are allowing your lockbacks to get that dirty I would not be counting on them for defensive purposes for the reasons you stated.

My EDC defensive knives are never dirty, let alone dirty enough to have them not lock open. Work knives daily, it isn't needed in a hurry, defensive knives [ any knife clipped to my pocket is a defensive knife ]need to be quick in the presentation and pristinely sharp, clean and with an oiled blade.

CODE 3: Only a matter of time if you carry them long enough, use them often enough, and engage, disengage the locking mechanism.

I'm not bashing linerlocks, I still have many in the fold that are customs, semis, and production folders from 50. to 450.00 in price. They are not longer carried for defensive purposes for reasons already stated.

On the spinewhak test, the palm of your hand would have sufficed, just make sure you keep the knife positioned in the hand so if and when it does release your fingers aren't in the way.

Linerlocks are the fastest for me to deploy, literally less than a second to open and defending
with them. Experience shows me the locks may fail at the wrong time for any number of reasons. It's not any different than presenting the gun and not having fire when you need it to.

I've done some testing and reviews at www.folders-r-us on tactical folders of various quality. All have passed the stab tests admirably so far, spinewhacks were not performed but will now be incorporated into the reviews in the future.

I actually have been converted through this forum to test for the liners failure thusly as others have experienced it and had been testing their blades for some time in this manner. Many have failed and it remains a concern throughout the life of the lock whether it's used often and wears sooner or not used often and wears over a longer period of time.

I play with the blades I carry at least 50 times a day in opening hard and putting them away. It wears parts on them, the liners are prone to suffer sooner than others.

I still like the designs and makes from production and customs in this configuration, but they sit in the drawers, no not mine, but the wooden kind.

Brownie
 
You seem to like your Endura's. I have a suggestion. Have you ever considered the Chinook? I know it is heavy to carry EDC, but the lock can withstand 700 pounds before snapping. It's MBC rated and a lockback.
-Kevin
 
CODE 3: Only a matter of time if you carry them long enough, use them often enough, and engage, disengage the locking mechanism.
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Note That I said I have carried and abused high quality liner Locks for years without any failure whatsoever.

Let me know what nursing home you'll be in down the road so I can send you another report of my liner locks NOT failing.

:rolleyes:

I guess it all depends on the user, and the brand. Good brands equal less failures.
 
Morgoth412:
I just sold the two new Enduras this morning at the gun club from my pockets. The Enduras are a good knife, I like them no more or less than some others really.

Ya, the Keating designed chinook is a heavy duty duty folder. Have trained with Jim on several ocassions and hitting the riddle this year as well in october on the Snake.

I have two matriarchs on the way in plain edge [ special run ]. One will be right handed use, the other a put away.

CODE 3: I used them for years as well with only a few issues of them letting go at the most inopportune time. Good luck with the fingers in the future though I wasn't trying to change anyones mind on their carry choices, only making obsevations from actual experiences.

Brownie
 
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