NEVER let someone "borrow" your knife

I find the economy version of the crkt ripple works well as a beater, as people its normally cheap enough to replace, but nice enough you like to carry it.
 
It may be the ultimate beater, I carry a large Douk Douk right now, I have been looking at the L'Ecureuil variant also, I love how they carry, they even carry amazingly well in scrubs!

I'm intrigued. I wear scrubs 4 days a week. Where can I pick up one of these?
 
It may be the ultimate beater, I carry a large Douk Douk right now, I have been looking at the L'Ecureuil variant also, I love how they carry, they even carry amazingly well in scrubs!


Hell yes.

One of the better bangs for the buck out there. So very, very easy to get razor, hair splitting, crazy sharp too.
 
Because he has to be right.


He's not.

Not about right or wrong. Just voicing my opinion and the other side of the argument. You are the one relentlessly combating it. Its provided me with some good laughs. Its silly to get upset about someone using your knife to break apart frozen water, especially when you see people here using 6-700$ knives to stab and split hard woods metal etc. with no negative effects. But you know like I also said before if you are gonna be anal about it don't carry it, and if you cart it don't lend it out.
 
Haha! So true. Never, never, never let someone borrow your knife... if its a knife you need or care about. On my camping trips, I bring a custom fixed blade for me... and a Cold Steel Pendleton Lite for anyone who needs to borrow my knife. :D

The hilarious thing is that sometimes they catch on to it and act disappointed, like "Oh, I wanted to borrow that $300 custom... not this one..."
 
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Not about right or wrong. Just voicing my opinion and the other side of the argument. You are the one relentlessly combating it. Its provided me with some good laughs. Its silly to get upset about someone using your knife to break apart frozen water, especially when you see people here using 6-700$ knives to stab and split hard woods metal etc. with no negative effects. But you know like I also said before if you are gonna be anal about it don't carry it, and if you cart it don't lend it out.
buddy, you do understand why he's upset someone would use his $400 knive as an icepick, don't you? even if every court in the land will agree that the sebenza will make a fine ice cracker.

let's say you went back in time to feudal japan. you borrow a warrior's 200-year old katana to cut large chunks of tuna for sashimi. and let's say you're a daimyo and have nothing to fear from that samurai. nevertheless, how do you think that samurai will feel?
 
Alright well lets consider the facts of this statement. Feudal japan, a samurai would never lend out his sword, a samurai's sword was usually passed down from generation to generation and made by a master sword smith who only made a handful of swords in his lifetime. You are comparing that to a semi custom production pocket knife that could be bought and used by anyone. Created with the intention of hard use made with modern steels that was used to break apart frozen water. What a daunting task I don't know how the knife survived ! Haha

A one of a kind, priceless japanese sword, compared to a semi custom production pocket knife in a situation that would never happen..horrible comparison
 
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you understand the analogy but choose to ignore it. regardless, the sebenza owner valued his knife above chipping ice. his mistake, you already pointed it out, was lending it to someone who didn't. so there is no technical issue here, just feelings and emotions. a katana is well suited for slicing tuna. if you go to tsukiji market, they use 36-inch swords that look just like samurai swords.
 
Yes I know I lived in japan for a couple years, actually managed to marry a local and have two kids. Yes I understand the analogy and yes if the owner valued his knife above ice picking then he should have never lent it out. Id assume that someone who uses and appreciates fine cutlery would be aware of the rampant social ignorance when it comes to knives and not lend it out when he is so cautious about its intended role.
 
I have NEVER understood these people who carry a second beater knife just so that jo blo doesn't damage their good knife. I mean really, it's not my responsibility to be prepared for everybody else. If I carry and enjoy a 400$ knife (I wish I could afford one, just spydies for now), i'm in no way obliged to lend it to every shmuck who wants to open a can of beans. People need to stop being afraid of what others will think and learn to say no, nicely of course.
 
I disagree. A Sebenza is to be fondled. There is no other use for a $400+ knife. Which is why I will never, ever buy one.

I've felt the same way about very expensive knives, and I have bought fixed blade knives that cost more than this. I thought I was crazy to pay $180 for my blue Para 2 and use it for EDC. I think if a person can pay $400 for a knife to EDC then maybe money is not that important to them and they can afford to replace it if it gets broken, it's us guys in the middle that buy a somewhat expensive knife that they can barely afford and use it for EDC that have to be more careful with our stuff. I want ZT's and I want other Spyderco Sprints, but I can't justify spending that much money for a knife that I either would not use or if I used it it would ultimately get beat up.

I used to collect watches too, and I frequently had to work on my cars. I bought a $100 Seiko to wear when working on my car, but I couldn't bear to let it get dirty and banged up so I sold it and bought a $40 Seiko. Well it turned out to be a pretty nice watch and I still couldn't bear to let it get banged up so I sold it and bought a $15 Casio. That one I was willing to sacrifice, but so far it is holding up well.
 
I disagree. A Sebenza is to be fondled. There is no other use for a $400+ knife. Which is why I will never, ever buy one.

Oh no, what will the countless people who have used their Sebenzas do? :p

Probably just keep using one of the best knives ever I guess.
 
I disagree. A Sebenza is to be fondled. There is no other use for a $400+ knife. Which is why I will never, ever buy one.

No, they're for using.
Which is why I'll never not use a knife I've paid $400 (or $500) for.
If I paid $400, or even $200, and didn't use it, I'd feel like a retard of epic proportions.

Art is for observing.
Books are for reading.
Cars are for driving.
Knives are for using...cutting stuff.
 
No, they're for using.
Which is why I'll never not use a knife I've paid $400 (or $500) for.
If I paid $400, or even $200, and didn't use it, I'd feel like a retard of epic proportions.

Art is for observing.
Books are for reading.
Cars are for driving.
Knives are for using...cutting stuff.

I think there is a blur in the line between any handmade thing and art. My compromise is that i recently decided I would only collect Custom knives, and if I got a mid-tech or production then it was a user. Not to say I don't use customs as well ;)

Plenty of Sebenza owners use them. Just because you yourself cannot rationalize or afford the price, it doesn't mean that others can't. Also I'm sure that most Sebenza owners are not upper class, just average people with an enthusiasm for knives. I hate this sentiment that if someone owns something "nice" or expensive then there is this assumption that they must be rich. This is bunk, different people with the same income will allocate it differently.

Many of the things I hear on this forum are simple logical fallacies, people choose to ignore the stuff they want and focus on the things they want to. Its a complete impediment to enlightened and rational conversation.
 
I hate this sentiment that if someone owns something "nice" or expensive then there is this assumption that they must be rich. This is bunk, different people with the same income will allocate it differently.

No doubt.
Despite a university (and college) education, I have a "rewarding" minimum wage job (hooray for higher learning! Go Lancers!)
My lack of a decent income has not made it so I cannot have, and use, nice things.
You just have to have priorities. I decided on lots of knives, and no kids.:)
I'm sure we can all agree that was the correct choice.:D
 
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