NEVER let someone "borrow" your knife

[Tim616]

Err...I don't know if anyone told you, but knives are used for work. If you carry a knife for show, don't lend it out. If you carry it to use, you should be prepared for it to be used as a tool. Why carry such an expensive knife if you aren't going to use it like a tool, which is what it happens to be? I don't understand why you got mad...for the reasons stated above. It's your fault that you let him use a knife that you didn't want to be used in a knife-like manner, and your fault that you carried it. Either pick something that you don't mind using and leave the "pretty knives" at the house, don't lend it out, or don't cry when someone doesn't realize they have to baby your knife because it's special. Jeez. Some people forget why we carry knives in our pockets in the first place. Or even why we have such a tool as a knife.

I apologize if that's harsh and all, but it's just a common sense. A knife is meant to be used, unless it is an art piece or took a huge chunk of change out of your pocket. I personally would never buy such an expensive knife because I would act the exact same way you did if someone were chipping ice or something with it. However, I realize this before picking a knife I plan on carrying all day. After all, no one cares what's in my pocket but me. Btw, my personal EDC's, which I abuse frequently, as you can see.

The low level of intelligence in this post is overwhelming.

Say what you really think.

"I would never carry such an expensive knife because I can't afford it."

That is of course what you meant, right?

 

[HoosierQ]

I have one of those Glock field knives. I will loan that to folks because a) it it pretty much indestructable, and b) it is a terrible piece of cutlery that I wouldn't care if they broke it...which I think would be very hard to do. I cannot get an edge on it so I'm not worried about.

 

[Czechmate]

The low level of intelligence in this post is overwhelming.

Say what you really think.

"I would never carry such an expensive knife because I can't afford it."

That is of course what you meant, right?

He actually meant he's cheap as all get out and thinks we're all crazy...

Knives should be used for knife tasks aka cutting; if I want to mistreat or wail on my knives I will.

The caveat is I don't lend out my knives to retarded monkeys to have them get abused.

I use pretty much all my knives because that's what I enjoy, regardless of cost.

 

[Thalestin]

No, value versus indestructibility has nothing to do with it. If you buy a knife which is a tool regardless of it price, fit, finish, materials, or construction. You shouldn't be afraid to use it unless you are buying it as art in which case it should become a safe queen and not leave the house. remember gentlemen, we are talking about ice, ICE. Frozen water. Not concrete, not hard woods, not metal.....ice

Ice is actually quite hard. Stab your user into a block of ice and then pry it out. I'm sure you'll be happy to see that your knife is now tipless. Sure if you carry a prybar style tactical it will be fine but carry a slicer and it will snap

 

[stabman]

My brother used his Spyderco Titanium Military as an icepick and it held up fine...but I don't use my knives for that.
Of course, I also don't like ice in drinks; it waters down the mix. Yuck.

But I want all use with my knives to be done by me. I want every scratch, ding, or chip to be attributable to things that I did.

So no one else gets to use my knives. It better that way too, as it ends up with them NOT getting punched in the face after they misuse my knife.

 

[RemyKaze]

The low level of intelligence in this post is overwhelming.

Say what you really think.

"I would never carry such an expensive knife because I can't afford it."

That is of course what you meant, right?

The high level of arrogance and assumption in this post is astounding. With no knowledge whatsoever about my life, you pass judgement. Good job. Would you like a Darwin Award? I would never carry such an expensive knife because although I can quite actually readily afford it, I will argue that spending an extra 200-300 bucks to get a particular name/brand, even one with somewhat better steel is kinda ludicrous. So yeah, I think I've already said what I think. Having an expensive knife is pretty nice...and if I felt like I had to have a Chris Reeve, Hinderer, Strider, some other custom, I would buy it. And the price tag wouldn't stop me from using it. So, I'm not being a "hard work/blue collar" elitist about knife usage. I'm saying that I personally have never found a knife over 300 bucks that I could justify buying with any sort of logical, noticeable difference from something less expensive. I'm also saying that if you are afraid to hurt your knife, don't bring it, don't lend it out, and don't whine when it comes back screwed up from some inexperienced dude treating it badly. By the way, don't be such a snob. It just makes you look foolish and uninformed. I based my opinion around facts, not assumptions about the guy. And yes, I was harsh, yet it was not my intention to offend as you so obviously mean to do. So please, you say what you really think, but first, put some thought into it, and try to stick to the facts.

 

[RemyKaze]

He actually meant he's cheap as all get out and thinks we're all crazy...

Knives should be used for knife tasks aka cutting; if I want to mistreat or wail on my knives I will.

The caveat is I don't lend out my knives to retarded monkeys to have them get abused.

I use pretty much all my knives because that's what I enjoy, regardless of cost.

Ha, I wouldn't say I'm cheap...I would say that what I EDC I'm not going to be afraid to beat up...and that I don't own "safe queens". I buy knives based on what I like. I do like the look of say a Strider, but for that kind of money I want a real custom. Also, for that kinda thickness....I'd probably just use a fixed blade. Now THAT, I have a terrible weakness for. I won't flip out if a folder breaks from hard use unless I've spent a ton of money on it, which as a rule I do not. However, I am not so savvy out in the woods that I could knapp a flint knife should I need one, so I go overboard and will spend a lot on my fixed blades. Different strokes for different folks. I kinda like the people who buy those expensive knives, carry them all the time, and aren't afraid to use them.

 

[Thalestin]

Ha, I wouldn't say I'm cheap...I would say that what I EDC I'm not going to be afraid to beat up...and that I don't own "safe queens". I buy knives based on what I like. I do like the look of say a Strider, but for that kind of money I want a real custom. Also, for that kinda thickness....I'd probably just use a fixed blade. Now THAT, I have a terrible weakness for. I won't flip out if a folder breaks from hard use unless I've spent a ton of money on it, which as a rule I do not. However, I am not so savvy out in the woods that I could knapp a flint knife should I need one, so I go overboard and will spend a lot on my fixed blades. Different strokes for different folks. I kinda like the people who buy those expensive knives, carry them all the time, and aren't afraid to use them.

Just because you like to beat up knives doesn't mean that someone that doesn't doesn't use their knives. People live different lives and many people don't need a knife to cut really tough things. I just carry a slip joint as I no longer work labor or just have other tools for whatever yard work I'm doing. I still often use my knife but mostly just for food and minor tasks these days.

 

[stabman]

Just because you like to beat up knives doesn't mean that someone that doesn't doesn't use their knives.

Hey, hey, HEY!
There will be no reasonableness allowed in this here thread.

 

[Stelth]

For me, the only proper answer to "Can I borrow your knife?" is:
Sorry, I don't have one.
If they are unprepared that's not my problem.

 

[RemyKaze]

Just because you like to beat up knives doesn't mean that someone that doesn't doesn't use their knives. People live different lives and many people don't need a knife to cut really tough things. I just carry a slip joint as I no longer work labor or just have other tools for whatever yard work I'm doing. I still often use my knife but mostly just for food and minor tasks these days.

Hey, I agree with that wholeheartedly. Two out of three of the knives in my pic are thin-blade slicers. I'm getting into slip joints more myself. I'm just admonishing that a person can't get mad when they both carry their expensive folder and hand it out to someone, and it gets abused. If I myself have a Sebenza and I have to use it in an emergency in such a way that it damages the knife, I won't feel bad about it. But odds are I would carry a knife that I'm ok cutting most things with, and I probably wouldn't loan it out if it were a favorite. If I ever decide on a custom that just calls to me so much that I can't ignore it, you can bet I'll never let anyone borrow it. I'll be thinking about that price tag and about that rarity, and the only nicks and dings on it will come from me.

 

[ArfinGreebly]

Uh, y'all will forgive me for disagreeing with the "just ice" characterization.

As I said in my earlier post, I have a knife at home -- and have had it for fifteen years -- which is a constant reminder that you don't use a knife to break up ice. Significant tip damage. Took a lot of work to put it right.

You're free to disagree with me, and you're free to chip and chop ice with YOUR knife.

My knife will not be available for that experiment.

I have all the experimental results I need for that.

 

[Sparty22]

Agreed! People don't respect things that aren't theirs!

 

[hunter s thompson]

I have lived by the rule if a person isn't smart enough to see the utility in carrying a knife, they are not smart enough to use my knife in any way shape or form. I refuse to carry a cheap knife to loan them, I will help point them towards the nearest Walmart where they have a nice collection of knives to be purchased and that they can beat the crap out of in any way that they see fit. I am right now in the midst of an experiment where I am carrying only "cheap" knives, I currently am rotating between a Douk-Douk a Case Sod buster which I plan to replace with a Queen Country Cousin, these are both probably less than $25.00 apiece but it's my $25.00 and if it gets damaged I would prefer to be the one who damages it!

 

[jakemex]

If the fool doesn't have a knife or the proper tool he'll just have to tough it out. "Sorry, Charlie, I ain't got no knife" I won't lend any other tool that I own to people that have no inkling of the cost of tools either. I have gotten back orbital sanders and other electrical tools burned up etc. It won't happen twice!!! Save yourself some grief and extra costs! (no more Mr. Nice Guy)

 

[RemyKaze]

I have lived by the rule if a person isn't smart enough to see the utility in carrying a knife, they are not smart enough to use my knife in any way shape or form. I refuse to carry a cheap knife to loan them, I will help point them towards the nearest Walmart where they have a nice collection of knives to be purchased and that they can beat the crap out of in any way that they see fit. I am right now in the midst of an experiment where I am carrying only "cheap" knives, I currently am rotating between a Douk-Douk a Case Sod buster which I plan to replace with a Queen Country Cousin, these are both probably less than $25.00 apiece but it's my $25.00 and if it gets damaged I would prefer to be the one who damages it!

How do you like the TruSharp Sodbusters? I don't have any problems with the stainless on my Victorinox. Except at work, I carry a modern folder of choice for ease of access, and something more "old school" when I need a slicer. Two small knives don't create more noticeable weight than a single knife.

By the way, I am sorry if I offended someone with my posts in this thread. Call it a lack of understanding as to the reasons behind buying upper tier knives to carry but not to put through their paces.

 

[Piper Maru]

Haha okay now you are taking my statement about ice picks and knives and applying it to everything. Why don't we include cars boats houses animals plants chemicals and everything else as well. If you would be so butt hurt about it you might want to have the person you are lending your tools to read a user manual and sign a user agreement before hand. I still stand by whatI said initially, its ice, ICE. Frozen water. Not concrete. Not hard woods. Not not metal....ice. If he gets hurt from using a tool he borrowed its his own fault for being an idiot. You can't save everyone.

I see your point but, a sebenza is to be used, and it was being used just not in the correct way, so the (owner, thread starter) not somewhat ticked off. Its not so much about people should not use expensive knives, to most people I know $30 is a "high end" knife. Although just like a car, a car is meant to be driven, but most car owners get ticked off if something happens to the paint job. Well same for knives, unless you bought it for a fancy EDC beater then you will probably care. It just depends on the person. I dont blame anyone for getting somewhat ticked off if their knife is being used the wrong way. In this case I dont think it was deliberate, as we all know people who like to see if they can get to you, although common sense would tell most people dont tick off people who are well acquainted with knife usage. Even though I view knives as tools not weapons.

 

[hunter s thompson]

How do you like the TruSharp Sodbusters?

Whats not to like? They are sick slicers that take a fantastic edge in very little or no time. I am switching to the Queen because I like the fact that it has more of a point than the Case but the Case is a great knife for the price.

 

[RemyKaze]

Whats not to like? They are sick slicers that take a fantastic edge in very little or no time. I am switching to the Queen because I like the fact that it has more of a point than the Case but the Case is a great knife for the price.

I like those old Imperial Knife folders with the nail pulls and the spearpoint pen blades. Kinda hard to find one that fits the bill outside of customs. Drives me crazy having to pull a knife out of my pocket though. If they don't have a clip they go in a belt pouch. It's getting hard to find decent carbon steel slip joints with the production market.

 

[BlueFalcon]

Ice is actually quite hard. Stab your user into a block of ice and then pry it out. I'm sure you'll be happy to see that your knife is now tipless. Sure if you carry a prybar style tactical it will be fine but carry a slicer and it will snap

Ymmv if only we were talking about a block and not a BAG of ice. And yes I've stabbed my knives into a block of ice as well as a bad of ice, guess what nothing happened to it. You should try it and stop believing everything you read and hear.