New ASEK knife?

If it was made to escape out of an aircraft. Looks like it would do a number on cargo nets. I wouldn't want anyone trying to stick me with that blade either as they were running from the plane. :)
 
Surely it's possible to design a functional ASEK knife that remains useful once you escape from the plane?
 
Okay, I am through biting my tongue.

While I was in the Navy, I was part of the "crash team" for helo operations. I have also served aboard the bridge of a destroyer performing the role of "bird dog" for an aircraft carrier more times than I care to count.

I have personally witnessed two helo accidents, one with a twin fatality, and the other with a near drowning.

I have also been involved in the recovery operations for a missing Tomcat pilot whom we did not find, though a helo recovered the back seater.

I have also ridden on helos about two dozen times.

Maybe aircraft crashes on land are a lot different, but water hit at speed is pretty hard on airframes. Those two helos I mention were FUBARed by impacting water. Apparently aluminum stressed beyond spec is pretty malleable.

My point is that in my experience, most helo drivers, the likely market for such a knife, are going to require external extrication from a smashed airframe. A strap cutter is a great idea, but there are alot of smaller and more safe to employ strap cutters out there than that pig.

Yes, at sea no one likely has time to cut the aluminum skin of the bird nor the windows to escape a drowning, but usually fire is automatically suppressed. On land, I would hazard a guess that a crumpled bird is not going to afford one the luxury of being free from a fire hazard, and/or it will be compromised to such a degree that one will be unlikely able to saw one's way out even if one survived the sudden deceleration physically intact enough to vigorously start sawing with those non metal file looking teeth.

On a daily basis, there are way more practical knives for pilots out there, and there are way more practical strap cutters out there too.

Then again, I have always despised "do it all" tools larger than a SAK or Leatherman, like the Tracker, WSK, and apparently now, ASEKs.

As a somewhat veteran passenger of helos, I find that knife ridiculous.

However, if there is video of this thing actually busting up a helo's window or skin in some time frame that doesn't approach eternity, I'll happily eat crow.
 
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Thanks Boats. That's exactly the feedback I was looking for when I asked about this knife. Personally, I had never seen one and was just wondering where it came from, etc.
 
R.A.T. said:
I guess I'm not in the loop on this particular ASEK knife but obviously there is some super secret story on it that everyone just wants to comment on but not elaborate on. I apologize for bringing it up here and obviously being a dumbass about the thing.
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Yep, it's purpose is so super secret that the designers couldn't even know what it was for. They had their eyes burnt out and tongues cut from their mouths before even designing the blade!

In case you took it the wrong way, the Dark Ops reference was in fact to a real company, Dark Ops Knives
that makes such beauties of Spartan function as this:
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They are often referred to as "Dork Ops".
 
I once had a Huey shot down almost on top of my head. The pilot and co-pilot were both alive but trapped in the ship. We found a rescue axe among the wreckage and tried to chop our way in to get them out. Didn't work. The Air Force lowered a para rescue team with power tools and they eventually freed everyone and put them on a medevac.

Always wondered about those sawback knives for cutting your way out of a chopper after that.
 
Sidehill,

I have to agree. I just don't think a knife is going to get you out a a chopper if your only egress is to chop or saw through the thing with a knife. There's a lot of BS associated with these Egress Knives, IMO. Of course, there's a whole lot of bullshit associated with survival knives in general.
 
R.A.T. said:
I thought Ontario and Gerber were the only ones producing an ASEK knife. Ran into this German made one in Colombia.

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Is that really a knife? Reminds me of the "Dark Ops" mall ninja crap. To each there own. I'd take a plain edge blade other that anyday.
 
R.A.T. said:
I thought Ontario and Gerber were the only ones producing an ASEK knife. Ran into this German made one in Colombia.

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That hook looks sooo nasty. It must be for a very specific application, like cutting strapping/shroud lines, etc. I can't see it as being useful in an EDC kind of way.
 
I have the Gerber version, and honestly, it is my most hated blade. But... like the Ontario 499, Pilot knife... I thought it was designed specifically to get you out of a downed thin skins craft like a paint canvas style fixed wing plane (sorry i don't know the names of the aircraft.... but my mind's eye is seeing a bush plane.) Possible something with very light aluminium. That blade thou... well to me looks like it is about as useful as tits on a bull....but what do i know?
 
I faintly remember seeing a video on assembly and testing the tanto version of the aviator, but it's been taken offline. But that video was full of strange information anyway. (Talking of police using that knife while having some German army guys running around with that knife for example. And there is a difference, and I know it.)
 
I think anytime you try to put too many tools on a fixed blade knife, you end up degrading the overall usefulness of the knife. Sadly, nowadays, it's about gadgetry in the knife world. Even some of the stuff the military puts out for bid sometimes has a lot of dumbass ideas.
 
it seams real busy in the blade area.... there are simpler and lighter belt cutters.... there are better knives for hacking threw well about any thing.... i mean if your into gadgets then it looks like a good route.... but as an arm chair action man... i would have to say give me the rc5 and an izula and ill wander till i find help..... and oddly would rather have an ax/hammer.... full sized pry.... when i was working with webbing and bindings the best cutter was always a cheap pair of emt shears......

the knife looks like it would help kick start power tools pretty well... making pilot holes and prining the edge of a door or something. to get the jaws in etc. i have broken a whole lotta glass and you can do it with about any thing with a sharp point....

i really dont know what the saw teeth are for.... i have had a few knives with this feature and they look cooler then they function about every time.... one exception was the wood rasp on the back of the old tacticool ontario cleavers... but it was more of a rasp then a saw....

over all i wouldnt pick this knife up... it doesnt replace any tools i have , and it seams like some multi tools.... the parts that would work are out of proportion... also the tools it offers isnt in my spectrum of use. if some one does like it and has a need go for it... but i would probably rely on an rc5 before this.....
 
R.A.T. said:
I have to agree. I just don't think a knife is going to get you out a a chopper if your only egress is to chop or saw through the thing with a knife. There's a lot of BS associated with these Egress Knives, IMO. Of course, there's a whole lot of bullshit associated with survival knives in general.

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I think anytime you try to put too many tools on a fixed blade knife, you end up degrading the overall usefulness of the knife. Sadly, nowadays, it's about gadgetry in the knife world. Even some of the stuff the military puts out for bid sometimes has a lot of dumbass ideas.
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So, is this some sort of promise to design nothing but "no bullshit" knives, no matter what fads may come? :D
 
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