New Cleaver and Carbon Fiber Bucks

RazGeez said:
Actually, my question made me remember a 440C China knife of some years back and now that I thought of it--I'm trying to start a thread on it but having trouble with the pictures.

It may show up yet.

(I consider 440C a premium steel.)

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440c a personal favorite of mine. in some ways I prefer cpm 154, but 440c when heat treated right, such as Buck does it, its a performer. so while a classic knife steel, still a good one. theres a reason steel makers like to compare newer steels to 440c as a baseline. still a great overall knife steel when heat treated right to get the best from it.
 
The old 440c knives are great.....
...once you figure out how to sharpen them with Buck's old blade edge geometry.

I know a lot of folks that still hate the old Buck knives, saying they were a pain to sharpen.
I do prefer the newer edge 2000 over the old way.

I'll take the current steel / edge offerings myself. They are easier to live with.
 
I hope all premium steels in Bucks lineup stay domestic.

CJ stated more made in USA product. Now we have more offshore.
And a 300 lineup improved. The rest of the world now is building slip joint knives that didnt before. Chris Reeves, Medford, etc.

Buck missed the Bushcraft craze by 10 years or more. Then offer a offshore made Selkirk and cancel the Ron Hood lineup.

Hope they realize the popularity of slips before it fades again.
 
jbmonkey said:
440c a personal favorite of mine. in some ways I prefer cpm 154, but 440c when heat treated right, such as Buck does it, its a performer. so while a classic knife steel, still a good one. theres a reason steel makers like to compare newer steels to 440c as a baseline. still a great overall knife steel when heat treated right to get the best from it.
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Yes! I just scored another 3 dot 1980-81 110 so now I have three. All in great condition and no blade material missing although dull when I got them. I just used a two sided sharpening stone for maybe 20 on each side with the course and 20 on each side with the smooth. Then finished the blade off on my Work Sharp pocket sharpener with diamond stones and ceramic. They are razors now. I don't get the whole "Buck's 440C was so hard to sharpen" response. It took me ten minutes to turn a dull 3 dot 110 into a razor blade. Also, I still prefer the heavier and thicker squared bolsters over the newer skinnier rounded ones. The old Buck 110's put the newer ones to shame. The 2 and 3 dots are the masculine version of the 110 and what it should look like. The newer ones look feminine to me.
 
Ruger 44 Redhawk said:
Yes! I just scored another 3 dot 1980-81 110 so now I have three. All in great condition and no blade material missing although dull when I got them. I just used a two sided sharpening stone for maybe 20 on each side with the course and 20 on each side with the smooth. Then finished the blade off on my Work Sharp pocket sharpener with diamond stones and ceramic. They are razors now. I don't get the whole "Buck's 440C was so hard to sharpen" response. It took me ten minutes to turn a dull 3 dot 110 into a razor blade. Also, I still prefer the heavier and thicker squared bolsters over the newer skinnier rounded ones. The old Buck 110's put the newer ones to shame. The 2 and 3 dots are the masculine version of the 110 and what it should look like. The newer ones look feminine to me.
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my theory is the 440c Buck hard to sharpen was from the pre edge 2000 wide angles used. wider angles can get sharp, of course...but the old angles were very wide from the factory. I can't remember the exact angle inclusive but my memory is 50 or 60 degrees..ill let someone correct me with right angles.

many folks would reprofile their old edges to be steeper and better slicers. id guess at 20 each side or 40 inclusive someone and already changed it.

on the blocky handle...Buck preferred it but only changed due to customer request. Chuck agreed with you on the blocky handle.

I dont find the new handle style bad....like both myself.
 
GPyro said:
The old 440c knives are great.....
...once you figure out how to sharpen them with Buck's old blade edge geometry.

I know a lot of folks that still hate the old Buck knives, saying they were a pain to sharpen.
I do prefer the newer edge 2000 over the old way.

I'll take the current steel / edge offerings myself. They are easier to live with.
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I don't get that. The older ones with the better 440C are not hard to sharpen. I'm no pro at sharpening but I just scored another 3 dot '80-'81 with no blade material missing and it was dull as hell. I just used my inexpensive two sided stone I got from Cabela's years ago and did about 20 strokes per side with the course and 20 per side with the smooth. Then finished it off with my Work Sharp pocket sharpener with diamond and ceramic. It took me maybe ten minutes to turn a dull 3 dot 110 into a razor blade. Much prefer the older thicker 110's with better 440C to the new ones.
 
jbmonkey said:
my theory is the 440c Buck hard to sharpen was from the pre edge 2000 wide angles used. wider angles can get sharp, of course...but the old angles were very wide from the factory. I can't remember the exact angle inclusive but my memory is 50 or 60 degrees..ill let someone correct me with right angles.

many folks would reprofile their old edges to be steeper and better slicers. id guess at 20 each side or 40 inclusive someone and already changed it.

on the blocky handle...Buck preferred it but only changed due to customer request. Chuck agreed with you on the blocky handle.

I dont find the new handle style bad....like both myself.
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Fast response! Interesting that Chuck preferred the thicker heavier ones too! Most would not understand this unless they have both but the 3 dot is the best version of the 110 they ever did. I tell people just pick them up on ebay. I won all three of my 3 dots for a little over 40 bucks! And they are in PERFECT condition with absolutely dead on perfectly centered blade, no blade play and the lock up is tighter than my newer rounded bolster ones.
 
Ruger 44 Redhawk said:
Fast response! Interesting that Chuck preferred the thicker heavier ones too! Most would not understand this unless they have both but the 3 dot is the best version of the 110 they ever did. I tell people just pick them up on ebay. I won all three of my 3 dots for a little over 40 bucks! And they are in PERFECT condition with absolutely dead on perfectly centered blade, no blade play and the lock up is tighter than my newer rounded bolster ones.
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the old ones are great.....fact they lasted this long and still good to go for many years.......
 
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