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Spyder59 said:
I said VICIOUS dogs. I should have explained a little better. I live out in the country were land owners will sometimes shoot dogs attacking their livestock. I don't feel comfortable shooting my pistol where I walk my dog as we are still somewhat in the outer city limits. I walk my little Yorkie and sometimes he attracts feral dog's attention. There is quite a feral dog problem out here from city folk dumping their unwanted pets. These dogs do pack up and can become dangerous. I do carry my pistol and I will use it if it is absolutely necessary, but I'd rather not because I do have some neighbors not far away. We had a little boy severely mauled by a Rottweiler not too long ago. That boy had to undergo rabies shots, not to mention his permanent scars suffered, because the dog was never found and it was never determined if it was a stray or what. If your bitten by a stray or savagely mauled, it is more convenient to have a corpus to test for rabies. I will defend myself in a do or die or mauled situation if I fear for me or my Yorkie's life. Sometimes it might be safer to use a long sticker for protection than a gun. Have you ever seen a knife hog hunt? Well if your trying to pry a 150 pound Rottwieler off a little kid or little defenseless puppy, I'd rather stick that Rott through the arm (leg) pit with along piece of sharp steel straight through to the heart. You'd have more control. It would be as humane as that pig hunt too. Of course I know you may not be able to accomplish either, safely, in some instances, so a potential rescuer would have to evaluate what to do in the middle of an adrenalin dump situation on a case by case situation. I know what I am going to do if I am attacked by a 150 pound pit bull. The dog attacks can be quite terrifying if they are even a little like some of the ones I have seen filmed in the news. I don't care what any bleeding heart liberal thinks, I will protect me and mine. Like I said, or didn't say, I'm not going out hunting the neighbors pets or any city folk abandoned strays for that matter. Sometimes a pop on the nose with a stick is just not enough, and I don't have to stab anything. I mean obviously it goes without saying I'm going to try beating off an attacker first. Give me the benefit of the doubt. The sword is the second to the last ditch option. I'll probably have my pistol too. Lighten up people. [emoji33]
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OK. Makes sense.
 
Another alternative could be a Cold Steel sjambok. A good whack with one of those things could render pain compliance without being lethal. The gun for the lethal option if it comes down to it.
 
I used to run a lot and dogs were a big problem. Most of my issues were the owners not controlling them or letting them run loose. Their first instinct is the chase. Also, when walking my dog, I had two instances of dogs trying to attack my dog. I would carry pepper stray, but when that big Rottweiler came after me early in the morning, man I lost it. Owner was having a smoke and didn't call him off till I started screaming at him. Made a comment later when I passed about not letting the dog eat me. Seems the dog was tougher then him when confronted though.
 
nick21 said:
I live in coyote country so I know where you're coming from.

Just remember your gun.

Also you can make your point without the political bs
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Agreed.

Also, maybe you need a bigger dog. Just sayin'.
 
I'm very, very jealous. Here in Canada, any weapon disguised as something else is strictly prohibited. As a matter of fact, we can't carry anything even intended for self defense against humans.

I also recently got a cane, though I primarily wanted one for support due to an injury that still hasn't completely healed yet. I'm young, so I wanted a cane that's going to last until my old age as well as provide pride of ownership.

And so, I got a Cold Steel Slim Stick.

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Weighs less than 8oz, yet still strong as an ox. I love carbon fiber...
 
Kwon Kwang said:
I'm very, very jealous. Here in Canada, any weapon disguised as something else is strictly prohibited. As a matter of fact, we can't carry anything even intended for self defense against humans.
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It's a cane sword. I don't believe it's disguised to appear as something else. :-)) Also it's not intended against humans if you don't want it to be. Wild dogs could be what you intend it for.

Just in case, if you would engrave the sheath big with the word cane sword could that make it legal?
 
I take walks down country roads all the time, and we have a couple nasty dogs around here (not strays, just mean as hell). Yelling very sternly and forcefully usually works - you gotta let them know YOU are the Alpha. If that doesn't work (or just works temporarily), bacon treats and any kind of jerky shuts 'em up! And if that doesn't work, I have a pistol on my hip - really don't want to have to shoot a dog, though, so I always bring the dog treats.
 
Love dogs. Wish I could own one but I'm a shift worker and leaving my pal at home alone for 12hrs at a time seems unfair, so I don't have one... :(

Worse than a 'bad' dog is a bad dog owner. :thumbdn::grumpy:

Sorry for the drift!

-Brett
 
Spyder59 said:
I said VICIOUS dogs. I should have explained a little better. I live out in the country were land owners will sometimes shoot dogs attacking their livestock. I don't feel comfortable shooting my pistol where I walk my dog as we are still somewhat in the outer city limits. I walk my little Yorkie and sometimes he attracts feral dog's attention. There is quite a feral dog problem out here from city folk dumping their unwanted pets. These dogs do pack up and can become dangerous. I do carry my pistol and I will use it if it is absolutely necessary, but I'd rather not because I do have some neighbors not far away. We had a little boy severely mauled by a Rottweiler not too long ago. That boy had to undergo rabies shots, not to mention his permanent scars suffered, because the dog was never found and it was never determined if it was a stray or what. If your bitten by a stray or savagely mauled, it is more convenient to have a corpus to test for rabies. I will defend myself in a do or die or mauled situation if I fear for me or my Yorkie's life. Sometimes it might be safer to use a long sticker for protection than a gun. Have you ever seen a knife hog hunt? Well if your trying to pry a 150 pound Rottwieler off a little kid or little defenseless puppy, I'd rather stick that Rott through the arm (leg) pit with along piece of sharp steel straight through to the heart. You'd have more control. It would be as humane as that pig hunt too. Of course I know you may not be able to accomplish either, safely, in some instances, so a potential rescuer would have to evaluate what to do in the middle of an adrenalin dump situation on a case by case situation. I know what I am going to do if I am attacked by a 150 pound pit bull. The dog attacks can be quite terrifying if they are even a little like some of the ones I have seen filmed in the news. I don't care what any bleeding heart liberal thinks, I will protect me and mine. Like I said, or didn't say, I'm not going out hunting the neighbors pets or any city folk abandoned strays for that matter. Sometimes a pop on the nose with a stick is just not enough, and I don't have to stab anything. I mean obviously it goes without saying I'm going to try beating off an attacker first. Give me the benefit of the doubt. The sword is the second to the last ditch option. I'll probably have my pistol too. Lighten up people. [emoji33]
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You lost me when you said pittbull, why is it that whenever someone thinks about viscous dogs they think about pittbulls ? If you met my blue nose pit buttercup she would make you want to give every pittbull the benefit of the doubt ( the only type of dog I have ever had and will ever have are pittbulls ) :thumbup::thumbup: I'm so glad I live where I do, because the only defense I need against dogs is a water pistol ( I'm the only one who follows the leash law, and none of these chihuahuas are smart enough not to pester a dog that's 5 times their size )
 
We live in the foothills of the Angeles Nat'l Forest.
Although we don't have a dog to walk, I occasionally go for walks and my neighborhood has coyotes, mountain lion, and once in a while, black bear.
Bear spray ;-)
 
Hickory n steel said:
You lost me when you said pittbull, why is it that whenever someone thinks about viscous dogs they think about pittbulls ? If you met my blue nose pit buttercup she would make you want to give every pittbull the benefit of the doubt ( the only type of dog I have ever had and will ever have are pittbulls ) :thumbup::thumbup: I'm so glad I live where I do, because the only defense I need against dogs is a water pistol ( I'm the only one who follows the leash law, and none of these chihuahuas are smart enough not to pester a dog that's 5 times their size )
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Totally fair. I think some breeds, like pitbulls, get a bad rap because on the rare occasion when one does bite, it can do some serious damage. It makes a more sensational news story. You don't hear much about the spoiled little Jack Russell going on a notorious nipping spree EVERY SINGLE TIME it's owner takes it out for a stroll... :D

-Brett
 
Leftytwogunz said:
During my time in law enforcement I have been in contact with O.C. spray many times. It is not as effective on a determined attacker as one might think, and pretty much every time I have ever used it it sucked for me as much as the felon.

for me, blade>aerosol spray any time.
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This...

I went through OC training many years ago myself. Eyes shut, count of 3, open eyes, full blast to face and eyes. It sucked...yes it did. BUT I fought with my "attacker" for 1 minute, found car keys on the hood of a patrol car, opened a locked door with the keys, then simulated a radio call for help. The point? OC sucks, but motivated attackers (to include animals) will keep fighting for quite a while before giving up. Not to mention wind blowing the nasties back in your own face...

Not necessarily advocating the cane sword either...:p.
 
Kwon Kwang said:
I'm very, very jealous. Here in Canada, any weapon disguised as something else is strictly prohibited.
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You can own a sword cane here.
You cannot have a weapon disguised as something else that is less the 30cm long.

10 Any device having a length of less than 30 cm and resembling an innocuous object but designed to conceal a knife or blade, including the device commonly known as the “knife-comb”, being a comb with the handle of the comb forming a handle for the knife, and any similar device.

http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/sor-98-462/fulltext.html

Carrying it around is a different matter, unless you're hiking in the woods or something like that.
 
I'm not a pitbull fan myself, but I am a dog fan, and pitbulls certainly get a bad rep BECAUSE of too many bad owners associated with the breed. Same was said about Bulldogs, and Dobermans, and Rotty's, and more once upon a time. The dogs themselves are just dogs, not inherently good or bad, but poor breeding and poor raising standards have given them an overwhelming bad reputation as "bad dogs" come out of those bad circumstances, (and same would happen with any breed).

But I do get the general "protection" idea; I have a sizeable city park behind my house, where many folks walk their dogs, and whenever I take my son down to the lake, with at least a Mora on my hip, my number one fear is a dog. My son growing up with two large dogs (a Weimaraner and a Rhodesian Ridgeback) is very friendly with dogs, and even though I stress with him the importance of not running up to other peoples dogs (esp..on leashes), I'm not worried about people around the park near as much as I am an unleashed dog with vicious intentions towards my son, in which case God forbid, I would completely destroy said dog with my Mora, even if I had to take a few stitches in the process.
 
There's a video on youtube showing a little boy attacked by a big dog. He was rescued by the family cat who chased the dog away. What a cat can do without weapon, can't you do it?
Problem with weapons is you're tempted to use it, and if you are tempted, why your neighbour (or anybody) would be too...
 
Jolipapa said:
There's a video on youtube showing a little boy attacked by a big dog. He was rescued by the family cat who chased the dog away. What a cat can do without weapon, can't you do it?
Problem with weapons is you're tempted to use it, and if you are tempted, why your neighbour (or anybody) would be too...
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Cats have claws. I dont. Cats have teeth. Mine aren't as sharp. Cats are fast and can be vicious. I'm not that fast.
Your argument is not very good, because you might as well be saying mankind should have never invented tools, because what could wild animals do that we couldn't have done? Many things. That's why we have blades and tools. If we had the physical attributes that animals did we wouldn't have had to invent tools such as spears and cutting edges.

Edit: it also disgusts me that pit bull are the stereotypical "vicious dogs", and I do understand that probably 90 percent of dog attacks could be ended without a weapon, just using your fists or rock or what have you. But I also know that if a dog or any animal had to be killed in self defense, I'd rather it have been stuck through the heart or bled to death within a minute or two or having been shot rather than having had its skull cracked with a rock and died slowly over the course of several days in the woods somewhere.
 
timberweasel said:
Totally fair. I think some breeds, like pitbulls, get a bad rap because on the rare occasion when one does bite, it can do some serious damage. It makes a more sensational news story. You don't hear much about the spoiled little Jack Russell going on a notorious nipping spree EVERY SINGLE TIME it's owner takes it out for a stroll... :D

-Brett
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I know, especially now, because last month the 9yr old brother of my moms friend was mauled to death by pittbulls ( against the warnings from one of his sisters and all of his other case workers the head social worker placed him in the custody of of his unresponsible sister and her 3 dogs mauled him to death while she was at work ) and now it's all over the news, and they spin it to make the dogs look bad. I'm my experience pittbulls are more affectionate , loving, and loyal than I've ever seen a dog be.

Anyway as far as protection from dogs goes, I would get a flare gun with bear bangers they may scare the neighbors but they fire no projectiles so you really don't have to worry ( the only problem with that would be scaring your own dog ). You could also get a Cain with a built in stun gun and flashlight ( they cost 80$ or less and would probably work great )
 
I actually shot my neighbors dog a few years ago! They called the sherif and the deputy told them to keep their next dog on their own property!
 
Kwon Kwang said:
I'm very, very jealous. Here in Canada, any weapon disguised as something else is strictly prohibited. As a matter of fact, we can't carry anything even intended for self defense against humans.

I also recently got a cane, though I primarily wanted one for support due to an injury that still hasn't completely healed yet. I'm young, so I wanted a cane that's going to last until my old age as well as provide pride of ownership.

And so, I got a Cold Steel Slim Stick.

20160218_233817.jpg


Weighs less than 8oz, yet still strong as an ox. I love carbon fiber...
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With a bad back, neck, and chronic pain, I've been considering one of cold steels walking sticks. How comfortable is the handle on the city stick?

For dogs when out and about, I often carry a stun gun. My own dogs have freaked and cowered when that electricity cracks. No I've never used one on them, but I have on myself. Turned out to be a couple of my kids' favorite "dumb dad" stories.
 
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