new fixed blade profiling

baldegale said:
it 100% has an off center apex, with the bevels one starts higher than the other and one is deeper than the other.
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if that is true and it is a custom made knife ... you would be best to return it for a full refund ... be sure to retain any emails/messages between you and the maker ... the pictures you have ... and return it ...

there are too many excellent custom makers here on our forums to pay for a custom that is ground so far off center ...

that's my opinion for what it's worth.
 
JJ_Colt45 said:
if that is true and it is a custom made knife ... you would be best to return it for a full refund ... be sure to retain any emails/messages between you and the maker ... the pictures you have ... and return it ...

there are too many excellent custom makers here on our forums to pay for a custom that is ground so far off center ...

that's my opinion for what it's worth.
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im considering it, im just trying to think of how to go about it really.

the one edge bevel is about half the size of the other.

best pics i could get: https://imgur.com/a/1bfVUcp
 
also i tried finding custom makers on here to make what i wanted for the price i wanted but had no luck so i went with him.
 
my response to his was: “have yet to use it — was just curious! ive never had a true fixed blade before let alone a heavy duty one so this is a first experience for me. i still have to get a stone to start sharpening with so thatll be a learning experience aswell” then he responded with “I grind all my blades by hand. No jigs or fixtures are used in the making of one of my knives. Knives made on CNC machines are absolutely symmetrical. Hand made knives are not.“ which i think is BS. i believe any good maker should be capable of a symmetrical blade, especially as he’s emphasized previously that hes been doing this for 40 years.
 
I don't know what you paid for it (and I'm not asking), but welcome to the hazards of buying online..... oh, wait, this was a face to face transaction, after you had inspected the knife. That doesn't excuse the faults of the knife; but it does shift some of the responsibility for your quandary to your shoulders.
Slightly uneven grinds are not a particularly big deal on a hand ground blade (price point being a factor in how acceptable). A custom knife not being sharp is a disappointment - been on the receiving end of those. You've got an offer on the table - if you aren't satisfied with the knife, return it for a refund. If you want to keep it, you have the options of paying for it to be fixed to your total satisfaction (may be more expensive than the knife), paying to have it sharpened, or using it to learn sharpening.
Personally, I'd probably return it. (I'm assuming that you paid enough for it that you'll be hesitant to risk making it worse before you improve it)
 
hhmoore said:
I don't know what you paid for it (and I'm not asking), but welcome to the hazards of buying online..... oh, wait, this was a face to face transaction, after you had inspected the knife. That doesn't excuse the faults of the knife; but it does shift some of the responsibility for your quandary to your shoulders.
Slightly uneven grinds are not a particularly big deal on a hand ground blade (price point being a factor in how acceptable). A custom knife not being sharp is a disappointment - been on the receiving end of those. You've got an offer on the table - if you aren't satisfied with the knife, return it for a refund. If you want to keep it, you have the options of paying for it to be fixed to your total satisfaction (may be more expensive than the knife), paying to have it sharpened, or using it to learn sharpening.
Personally, I'd probably return it. (I'm assuming that you paid enough for it that you'll be hesitant to risk making it worse before you improve it)
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i agree and will take some fault for that, what happened was he gave it to me out of the sheath for a brief second, i checked for sharpness on my thumbnail briefly and got lucky and hit the spot that was somewhat sharp. after handing it to me though he quickly started telling me stories and showing me stuff and i didnt want to be rude and not pay attention (which thats again, on me) then he saw that i was carrying a PM2 and he brought up how Sal is an old friend of his then he brought out some custom one off skeletonized spydercos that sal made just for him then i paid him and he continued to show me all of his folders that he has made and boasted how he designed one that was before thought to be impossible to do and how he sold one for $1k etc. now that i look back on it BUNCH of red flags but i had anxiety in the first place and wasnt thinking clearly. more than likely going to try and return it, its just a hassle unfortunately. i shouldve fully inspected it but didnt, and thats on me.
 
Think about all that you are going through with this .Is this the first time that you have bought any type of knife?were you in such a hurry to get back home because your dad drove you that you did not look the knife over? I understand that you must have been excited this being your first.
I am sorry, but dont mean to sound like a bully here, but you must take a lot of the responsibility. Yes he is elderly and make representation about being razor sharp ect.
Rack it up and a lesson learned the hard way. Slow down an take your time.I'am sure you worked hard for your money. Hope every thing works out for you, good luck.
Wayne
 
wayneblocker5369 said:
Think about all that you are going through with this .Is this the first time that you have bought any type of knife?were you in such a hurry to get back home because your dad drove you that you did not look the knife over? I understand that you must have been excited this being your first.
I am sorry, but dont mean to sound like a bully here, but you must take a lot of the responsibility. Yes he is elderly and make representation about being razor sharp ect.
Rack it up and a lesson learned the hard way. Slow down an take your time.I'am sure you worked hard for your money. Hope every thing works out for you, good luck.
Wayne
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first time ive ever bought a custom, i did look the knife over very briefly because at the time i thought itd be rude and seem as if im doubting him, now im realizing its kinda something mandatory to do and who cares what they think when im the one paying them. not a bully, i realize i was stupidly fast talked, but hindsight is always 20/20.
 
Take the knife back, along with a piece of paper and do the cut test in front of him. I assume you already did this and it tears the paper. The blade looks like a low sabre hollow grind?
 
Cobalt said:
Take the knife back, along with a piece of paper and do the cut test in front of him. I assume you already did this and it tears the paper. The blade looks like a low sabre hollow grind?
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honestly im not sure about grinds, but to me it feels very rounded to the touch so i was thinking a convex grind.

its to the point that 85-90% of the time it just bends the paper, not even rip it. the other 10-15% itll cut it cleanly but not easily
 
As a maker, an other aspects of life I try an put fourth my very best. Any knife that I make an sell (there already sold when I do make then) is a part of me ,I won't it to show who I am an what I stand for. I will not rush



someone that is buying one.We will talk about it till the cows come home.
My customers know up front that I have sole artistic freedom to build it the way do. I have a photo alb. To show my work plus others that they can inspect. A man's word used to mean something at one, mine does.
I know there are a lot here on this forum that feels the same way. If I did offend you, I do apologize. An I do hope everything works out an you will buy lots of knifes. Lol

Wayne Blocker
 
baldegale said:
honestly im not sure about grinds, but to me it feels very rounded to the touch so i was thinking a convex grind.

its to the point that 85-90% of the time it just bends the paper, not even rip it. the other 10-15% itll cut it cleanly but not easily
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so it is a sabre ground convex blade that looks about 3/16" thick? , which means it is really thick behind the edge. Looks like he did a secondary v ground edge and since it is very shallow it quite likely is 30 dps. Which in of itself isn't terrible if properly done. Problem is that on a low wear steel it dulls quick because the edge gets thick really fast. If it isn't worth the trouble to take it back, then I recommend you reprofile the edge. Since it is a small knife with a thick edge, I would profile it to 15-20 dps. Not sure what steel it is, but I bet that it is either 1095 or O1. Those are old school steels that old timers use.
 
I applaud you for thinking you would like to fix this up yourself. In my opinion, this is not thw knife to learn profiling on. Start with the basics of sharpening, on a knife that is sharp. Then build on that skill by learning to do basic reprofiling (taking an obtuse angle to a thinner angle of your chosing). Fixing a problem grind is a major undertaking. If you start here you will end up frustrated.

My opinion, send it out to a pro, or send it back.
 
Cobalt said:
so it is a sabre ground convex blade that looks about 3/16" thick? , which means it is really thick behind the edge. Looks like he did a secondary v ground edge and since it is very shallow it quite likely is 30 dps. Which in of itself isn't terrible if properly done. Problem is that on a low wear steel it dulls quick because the edge gets thick really fast. If it isn't worth the trouble to take it back, then I recommend you reprofile the edge. Since it is a small knife with a thick edge, I would profile it to 15-20 dps. Not sure what steel it is, but I bet that it is either 1095 or O1. Those are old school steels that old timers use.
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the edge is very thick, i can just tell. it feels very similar to the edge on an axe (which i believe is a convex, im learning)

also its CPM 154 steel
 
TRfromMT said:
I applaud you for thinking you would like to fix this up yourself. In my opinion, this is not thw knife to learn profiling on. Start with the basics of sharpening, on a knife that is sharp. Then build on that skill by learning to do basic reprofiling (taking an obtuse angle to a thinner angle of your chosing). Fixing a problem grind is a major undertaking. If you start here you will end up frustrated.

My opinion, send it out to a pro, or send it back.
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sending it back is sounding like the move right now
 
baldegale said:
sending it back is sounding like the move right now
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yeah, get a refund. Cpm154 is a good steel with excellent wear resistance and you will work your azz off trying to reprofile something that thick.
 
Cobalt said:
yeah, get a refund. Cpm154 is a good steel with excellent wear resistance and you will work your azz off trying to reprofile something that thick.
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thats what i figured. i just have to work out when im going to be able to and then ill have to find another maker
 
Cobalt said:
look for one on the forums. There are many great makers here.
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i have, the problem is i dont even know where to begin. ive looked at the hosted makers list but didnt see anything that stuck out to me, i love the CPK EDC its just not in the budget
 
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