New GEC #14 Boys Knife

what about the new run of scouts and 15 boys knives.are any of the 15 boys knives going to be single blades?ARE THEY ALL GOING TO HAVE LIFTERS?just trying to get it straight.thanks for any info
 
kysteve said:
what about the new run of scouts and 15 boys knives.are any of the 15 boys knives going to be single blades?ARE THEY ALL GOING TO HAVE LIFTERS?just trying to get it straight.thanks for any info
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So far it seems like they will all have lifters.
 
kysteve said:
what about the new run of scouts and 15 boys knives.are any of the 15 boys knives going to be single blades?ARE THEY ALL GOING TO HAVE LIFTERS?just trying to get it straight.thanks for any info
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So far it seems like they will all have lifters.

This is definitely shaping up to be a nice knife.
 
kysteve said:
what about the new run of scouts and 15 boys knives.are any of the 15 boys knives going to be single blades?ARE THEY ALL GOING TO HAVE LIFTERS?just trying to get it straight.thanks for any info
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You better be careful or somebody might think a post like this might imply that you don't want a lifter on your #15...
 
wlfryjr said:
Yes,I gave Bill permission,and I know nothing about Taylor being involved or not being involved...

I will elaborate some now and hopefully more later. For now,I had posted this on AAPK recently for those not aware of the history of Lick Creek, WV:

I was born in this little house on the front label,taken from these pictures. That was Papaw and Mamaw Fry's home-place up the holler,our "Little house"( It was called that long before the tv series, 1952) closer to the road. Me and Daddy down by the creek fish'n, which we did a lot... I only have one memory before Daddy started taking me fish'n,and it's so early you wouldn't believe it.

Daddy and Papaw Fry could crouch like that all day long,a trait I didn't inherit. I grin

I enjoyed the labeling probably more than the knife itself,but I liked the rendition. Thanks Bill

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That's Papaw Fry in front of the "Little house" I was born in.

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That's Mamaw Fry on the porch of the addition,it's funny,as she had a "new" electric wringer washer, but cooked on an old wood cook stove.

I believe that's my cousin Dale in the yard,he was one of my cousins that had been in that apple tree with me. He was a helicopter gunner in Vietnam; he never made it home.

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Very, very cool. Thank you for the look back into your picture album and family memory.
How special for you and the family.
 
Should be a nice size for dress pants. Hope the pull comes in at about a 6 :D


Chris D.:D
 
This could be very good, a single Spear in Rust Red attracts me a lot.

But....

It's my feeling that GEC have yet to get a smaller knife right - their 25 is still King in that realm and that's because it is broad or WSLT:D . The others, the 09, 06, 22, 26 and now the Coyote 18 have not hit the mark as far as I'm concerned. Let's take the Coyote, the most recent one. My version the Northfield is superbly finished, excellent quality but it's just too tiny and lightweight. I can't find a meaningful use for it, so far. I have long thin fingers, small hands for a man, no dexterity problems! So if this knife feels awkward I assume for a Big Hand it might even be worse. Visually it is just too puny as well, if it were say CASE Swayback size but offering the Dogleg handle I think it would've been a sensation. The blade itself comes across as fragile. How this Lilliput frame is going to cope with 2 blades Beagle in a meaningful way I can't imagine.... I have nothing against small knives, very much the opposite as I enjoy carrying the Mini Copperhead, CASE and Böker's Penknife, RR's Small Barlow and the certainly tiny but thick Stag Schatt Baby Barlow, which has gravitas and a good blade. I long for GEC to make a 3.25 type single spring knife that would offer an alternative, especially Barehead or Tip Bolsters.

Proportions are vital. So the 14 could be a fine small carry, yet I hope it will not just be a kind of mini pocket jewel or display item which frankly, the other GEC small knives are (25 excluded, it's sturdy...) A Wharncliffe on this frame could also be a nice option. Boy's Knife yes, Toy's Knife no thanks been done.

Regards, Will
 
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I totally agree Will. I have a couple of 25s, a couple of 85s and a coyote. None of them have the kind of immediate appeal I am after. I think a smaller knife needs to have a good belly on the blade to make it useful, and the warncliffe blades don't lend themselves well to any task because the handle is not long enough to provide good control over the cut.

The 22 appeals as a sturdier knife, but judging by the stock still left in dealers, they can't be all that good in the hand.

Personally I think the big, obvious gap is a smaller Stockman like an Uncle Henry 897 or Schrade #34. These were the most popular sellers made by Schrade yet have no GEC equivalent except the 66, which again, is poor ergonomically in comparison.
 
I'll predict the Ebony and Jigged Bone versions will sell out before they hit the shelves.
 
Will Power said:
This could be very good, a single Spear in Rust Red attracts me a lot.

But....

It's my feeling that GEC have yet to get a smaller knife right - their 25 is still King in that realm and that's because it is broad or WSLT:D . The others, the 09, 06, 22, 26 and now the Coyote 18 have not hit the mark as far as I'm concerned. Let's take the Coyote, the most recent one. My version the Northfield is superbly finished, excellent quality but it's just too tiny and lightweight. I can't find a meaningful use for it, so far. I have long thin fingers, small hands for a man, no dexterity problems! So if this knife feels awkward I assume for a Big Hand it might even be worse. Visually it is just too puny as well, if it were say CASE Swayback size but offering the Dogleg handle I think it would've been a sensation. The blade itself comes across as fragile. How this Lilliput frame is going to cope with 2 blades Beagle in a meaningful way I can't imagine.... I have nothing against small knives, very much the opposite as I enjoy carrying the Mini Copperhead, CASE and Böker's Penknife, RR's Small Barlow and the certainly tiny but thick Stag Schatt Baby Barlow, which has gravitas and a good blade. I long for GEC to make a 3.25 type single spring knife that would offer an alternative, especially Barehead or Tip Bolsters.

Proportions are vital. So the 14 could be a fine small carry, yet I hope it will not just be a kind of mini pocket jewel or display item which frankly, the other GEC small knives are (25 excluded, it's sturdy...) A Wharncliffe on this frame could also be a nice option. Boy's Knife yes, Toy's Knife no thanks been done.

Regards, Will
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I think the 83 is a very overlooked "smaller knife". The 83 with a clip is just about perfect (for me) for a small knife.
 
Good points Will. Personally I like GECs #33 frame size wise. Not only is the length in the sweet spot for me, but I like the slimness of it. Only issue I ran into when checking them out was the pull. Of the ones I handled the pull was soft to me - I'd say around a 4 or a soft 5. I'd love to see GEC offer a #33 Jack with a stouter pull. Done right it might dislodge my Case Medium Jack as my favorite.
 
I am trying to hold out for the clip version. It's not easy.

As for a knife being too small, I guess it depends on what you are using it for. It's tricky to cut a sandwich or fillet a fish with a short blade. I find it's even trickier to remove a splinter with a long blade. The closer my hand is to the tip, the more control I feel I have. The Coyote is my go-to clamshell package opener. :thumbup:

But to each his own, and full disclosure: I have little lady hands. :)
 
Will Power said:
This could be very good, a single Spear in Rust Red attracts me a lot.

But....

It's my feeling that GEC have yet to get a smaller knife right - their 25 is still King in that realm and that's because it is broad or WSLT:D . The others, the 09, 06, 22, 26 and now the Coyote 18 have not hit the mark as far as I'm concerned. Let's take the Coyote, the most recent one. My version the Northfield is superbly finished, excellent quality but it's just too tiny and lightweight. I can't find a meaningful use for it, so far. I have long thin fingers, small hands for a man, no dexterity problems! So if this knife feels awkward I assume for a Big Hand it might even be worse. Visually it is just too puny as well, if it were say CASE Swayback size but offering the Dogleg handle I think it would've been a sensation. The blade itself comes across as fragile. How this Lilliput frame is going to cope with 2 blades Beagle in a meaningful way I can't imagine.... I have nothing against small knives, very much the opposite as I enjoy carrying the Mini Copperhead, CASE and Böker's Penknife, RR's Small Barlow and the certainly tiny but thick Stag Schatt Baby Barlow, which has gravitas and a good blade. I long for GEC to make a 3.25 type single spring knife that would offer an alternative, especially Barehead or Tip Bolsters.

Proportions are vital. So the 14 could be a fine small carry, yet I hope it will not just be a kind of mini pocket jewel or display item which frankly, the other GEC small knives are (25 excluded, it's sturdy...) A Wharncliffe on this frame could also be a nice option. Boy's Knife yes, Toy's Knife no thanks been done.

Regards, Will
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Camillus said:
I totally agree Will. I have a couple of 25s, a couple of 85s and a coyote. None of them have the kind of immediate appeal I am after. I think a smaller knife needs to have a good belly on the blade to make it useful, and the warncliffe blades don't lend themselves well to any task because the handle is not long enough to provide good control over the cut.

The 22 appeals as a sturdier knife, but judging by the stock still left in dealers, they can't be all that good in the hand.

Personally I think the big, obvious gap is a smaller Stockman like an Uncle Henry 897 or Schrade #34. These were the most popular sellers made by Schrade yet have no GEC equivalent except the 66, which again, is poor ergonomically in comparison.
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different strokes for different folks.

I am a fan of the small patterns and find plenty of usage for them. 09, 18, 22, 25 are among my favorites. Not everything needs to be able to cut an apple in half in one pass. The 18 coyote wharncliffe single blade, for instance, is an awesome crafting knife that I hold pinched like a pencil / exacto knife for cutting out stencils. I was using a 47 viper until the coyote, but the 47 is a way more cumbersome, where as the 18 is very dexterous and easier to grip for that application. Yeah, I guess I can just use an exacto, but what fun is that?!?
 
r8shell said:
It's not that small. :) The Boker on the left in this pic is 3 1/8th", so the #14 would be just a tiny bit smaller.



I guess you can look at the numbers and the pictures, but until you have it in hand, you don't really know.
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Would you mind adding one of your coyotes to this pic...trying to bend my head around this some as I have never held a #15. Yet. and now I may have to get one of these too lol
 
odd said:
Would you mind adding one of your coyotes to this pic...trying to bend my head around this some as I have never held a #15. Yet. and now I may have to get one of these too lol
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Sure. Bear in mind, we are speculating a few things in order to get an impression of how the #14 will size up. The Kabar in this pic is a bit closer to the 3 inch mark than the slightly longer Boker. What difference is 1/8th inch? A lot sometimes. :)

 
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