New Kershaws? What is this?

POCEH KOCEB said:
It probably will… Chinese firms are snatching all of the good designers these day.
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Maybe it's just that the Chinese manufacturers are putting out better product and more compelling partnership deals. If I had a design I wanted produced, I damn sure wouldn't start with Kershaw or CRKT or Gerber or any other 'American' company in my search for an OEM.
 
DocJD said:
In the weird new reality , apparently the only thing that matters is to take a pic/video and get some likes on social media for it .

So functionality as a tool is irrelevant . o_O
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You don't have to like cleaver blade profiles, we can all agree that the thing they released is, well, hideous, but let's not lose our minds and claim that a perfectly useful blade has no functionality as a tool. Cleaver blade profiles are as useful as any other kind, unless you need your tip to be narrow enough to reach into constricted spaces. For most tasks it's no different than any other blade with a bit of belly and a lowered point. For some, like anything with food or soft materials, a wide blade like a cleaver-style is nicer to cut with than a narrow blade.
 
NG VI said:
You don't have to like cleaver blade profiles, we can all agree that the thing they released is, well, hideous, but let's not lose our minds and claim that a perfectly useful blade has no functionality as a tool. Cleaver blade profiles are as useful as any other kind, unless you need your tip to be narrow enough to reach into constricted spaces. For most tasks it's no different than any other blade with a bit of belly and a lowered point. For some, like anything with food or soft materials, a wide blade like a cleaver-style is nicer to cut with than a narrow blade.
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OK , sorry ! My bad ! :eek:

I should have said :" Useless" for me ONLY , personally , IMHO , YMMV ! 🥺
 
I can't wait to try out some of the knives that were previewed in the video that the vendor posted.

I will be getting the Federalist and a Launch 14, and I do like the styling on a couple of the offshore knives.

[edit] due to the sharp eyes of NorthernSouthpaw NorthernSouthpaw I corrected the post - the blue scaled knife is a Gerber, not a BM[/edit]

The following picture are two "cleaver" style knives that I own - the top is a Kershaw with copper handles and the lower is a Benchmade (really it's a Gerber).

I have carried and used the Kershaw much more than the Benchmade (really a Gerber), but I find the blade to be very useful for the types of cutting chores that I perform with my knives. Stabbing is not something I do a lot of in my day to day operations.

I have a copper fetish, although it's use in scales admittedly makes a given knife heavier than it needs to be, but I just like the feel of copper.

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mqqn
 
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mqqn said:
I can't wait to try out some of the knives that were previewed in the video that the vendor posted.

I will be getting the Federalist and a Launch 14, and I do like the styling on a couple of the offshore knives.

The following picture are two "cleaver" style knives that I own - the top is a Kershaw with copper handles and the lower is a Benchmade.

I have carried and used the Kershaw much more than the Benchmade, but I find the blade to be very useful for the types of cutting chores that I perform with my knives. Stabbing is not something I do a lot of in my day to day operations.

I have a copper fetish, although it's use in scales admittedly makes a given knife heavier than it needs to be, but I just like the feel of copper.

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mqqn
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umm Benchmade?

You may want to check that photo again...
 
DocJD said:
In the weird new reality , apparently the only thing that matters is to take a pic/video and get some likes on social media for it .

So functionality as a tool is irrelevant . o_O
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You don't have to like cleaver blade profiles, we can all agree that the thing they released is, well, hideous, but let's not lose our minds and claim that a perfectly useful blade has no functionality as a tool. Cleaver blade profiles are as useful as any other kind, unless you need your tip to be narrow enough to reach into constricted spaces. For most tasks it's no different than any other blade with a bit of belly and a lowered point. For some materials, a wide blade like a cleaver-style is nicer to cut with than a narrow blade. It's an ugly goose for sure, but to call it 'useless' or 'nonfunctional' is pretty far off the mark for a knife hobbyist community. Remember the lime cutter trend?


JeremiahWeaver09 said:
lol i remember the tim britton kizer thing, for people who are interested they can probobly still find the threads about it, tim britton lied and accused of kizer of stealing his design
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Yeah that was amazing, imagine the festering nuts on that goblin, to accuse the people making his product for him of stealing his design while lying about who was making his design in the same breath. I really hope Tim Britton never sells another knife in his life, that's the level of scumbaggery he got up to.
 
That's definitely a Gerber Flatiron or Asada
mqqn said:
I can't wait to try out some of the knives that were previewed in the video that the vendor posted.

I will be getting the Federalist and a Launch 14, and I do like the styling on a couple of the offshore knives.

The following picture are two "cleaver" style knives that I own - the top is a Kershaw with copper handles and the lower is a Benchmade.

I have carried and used the Kershaw much more than the Benchmade, but I find the blade to be very useful for the types of cutting chores that I perform with my knives. Stabbing is not something I do a lot of in my day to day operations.

I have a copper fetish, although it's use in scales admittedly makes a given knife heavier than it needs to be, but I just like the feel of copper.

20210712_115757.jpg


best

mqqnat
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Paratrooper06 said:
Well, I’ll call that *D2, the asterisk means you’re rolling the dice.

If it doesn’t come from Civivi, you just don’t know if it’s actual D2, or if someone melted down some pots and pans, or parts from a Volkswagen.
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D2 is a hundred years old and super common, if you're buying from any semi-legitimate manufacturer there is zero reason to question whether they're using what they say they are. Unless something weird happens, but like we saw with Bark River, manufacturing mistakes can and do happen and a human error of mislabeling or improperly storing materials is going to be the culprit if an otherwise ok company puts out steel with the wrong stamp. Even Ganzo is far beyond the point where there is anything to gain from scamming a few people with a slightly cheaper material.
 
NG VI said:
You don't have to like cleaver blade profiles, we can all agree that the thing they released is, well, hideous, but let's not lose our minds and claim that a perfectly useful blade has no functionality as a tool.
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Sure, it’s useful in the belly. Not much else.
NG VI said:
Cleaver blade profiles are as useful as any other kind, unless you need your tip to be narrow enough to reach into constricted spaces.
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I’ll disagree with you on that, otherwise “cleaver” would be up there in popularity with “drop point” or “wharncliffe”. It isn’t. And the cleaver blade shape is most “useful” on large kitchen/butcher type fixed blades… not little pocket knives. Cleavers are best in chopping tasks. How much chopping can you do with a 3.375” blade that weighs 3.2 ounces?
NG VI said:
For most tasks it's no different than any other blade with a bit of belly and a lowered point. For some materials, a wide blade like a cleaver-style is nicer to cut with than a narrow blade. It's an ugly goose for sure, but to call it 'useless' or 'nonfunctional' is pretty far off the mark for a knife hobbyist community. Remember the lime cutter trend?
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Sorry to offend.
NG VI said:
Yeah that was amazing, imagine the festering nuts on that goblin, to accuse the people making his product for him of stealing his design while lying about who was making his design in the same breath. I really hope Tim Britton never sells another knife in his life, that's the level of scumbaggery he got up to.
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I think we've been witnessing a big shift in the past year or two in knife design and manufacturing. Any designer producing quality designs has learned they can create their own line simply by producing designs and having them manufactured for cheap in China and Taiwan by good quality established companies. No longer do they need to accept the micro margins offered by Kershaw, Benchmade, and Spyderco, etc. No longer do they even need to spend days making a single custom knife. Meanwhile these once top companies are probably hiring some kid out of college with minimal knife experience to design for them, and you get tacticool, overbuilt, non practical use knives like this. Retaining their older, more iconic, more customizable designs is probably the only thing keeping some of these companies afloat. Or when they bite the bullet and shell out some big money every now and then to get a more recognizable designers name on the knife. I'd be surprised if half of these companies survive the next two years without getting bought out, or closing their doors completely.
 
RousingRabbles said:
I'd be surprised if half of these companies survive the next two years without getting bought out, or closing their doors completely.
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that’s a pretty bold statement. I don’t see that happening but I could imagine some companies taking a turn from being more in the “enthusiast” market to selling more of the Walmart crap to teenagers. That’s probably where they make half their money anyway.
 
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