New knife from Queen?

Discussion in 'Traditional Folders and Fixed Blades' started by FLymon, Apr 28, 2020.

  1. Will Power

    Will Power

    Jan 18, 2007
    If Bear are improving then that's to be applauded but why not emphasise their name and brand itself ? So far everybody seems pleased with these knives which is also good, are they stainless or carbon? Hopefully when the 'test run' ends they'll be able to stamp the blades and do away with that cheap etching. Visually, the knife does nothing for me it looks like a parts bin effort it is not a Queen knife in my book. Queen's Workhorse series using delrin and exposed pivots for ease of maintenance looked a lot better. I think if you are going to set up a 'new' knife company then give it a name let it develop its own identity or features don't pretend to revive something that's gone.

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  2. meako

    meako Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 4, 2006
    I say ..well done on all levels..we seem to have a a possible new contender for the 2020 Porch knife.....A challenge? Yes indeed.
    An Avenue? Definitely....This thread has given me hope. I LIKE it when a fugitive is frozen in the searchlight.....
     
  3. L.H.S

    L.H.S Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 1, 2013
    I'm replying not to refute, because you can think whatever you want about my reviews and I understand your point. I'm replying out of transparency, and so that people know that I'm just a knife enthusiast like anyone else here.... I just am silly enough to take the time to put together videos and articles about he knives I get.

    If my points below sound like they come from a place of frustration, I won't lie and say I'm not disheartened by this response to my earlier post, but I don't mean to try to invalidate your opinion or anything like that.

    1) I don't ask for this on all knives. Namely, I don't usually ask on GEC knives or most modern knives. I will sometimes ask dealers to check for proud tips or blade rap on GEC knives, but that's no guarantee they won't still have those things more than I like.

    2) If you think other reviewers aren't doing this, I'm sorry to burst your bubble but they absolutely are, on average at least as often as I do.

    3) I would say it doesn't invalidate the review because I basically never mention that I'm buying the knife for review (in fact I think, but I'm not 100% sure, that's the first time I mentioned my site in such a message), and anyone could ask the simple favor of having the knife quickly checked over. I know that a lot of people do. And being that I'm not a YouTube celebrity level reviewer, I don't think my intention to review the knife makes all that much difference to the dealer in many cases.

    4) I'm still a collector/user/enthusiast first. I have made $0 off of my reviews/videos/etc. so far and they do take time. I don't want to raise the chances of getting a lemon for the sake of some false randomness, when I would have done the exact same thing if I had been buying the knife with no intention of reviewing it.

    5) I'd absolutely love to do reviews where I get multiple of the same knife. But I just can't afford to do that regularly. I can't even keep the majority of knives I get, they move along so I can try other things. I have done reviews where I had multiple of a knife (both that I'm thinking of now are modern knives, that I bought as gifts). I have also done several reviews based on having had more than one of a pattern go through my hands.

    I do this mostly because I thought other enthusiasts would enjoy it and it could help newer people and those looking for info they don't have.
     
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  4. JohnDF

    JohnDF Gold Member Gold Member

    May 14, 2018
    After playing with the knife for many hours, the action has smoothed out quite a bit. Still super snappy and not as gritty. I'd say over-all it falls a notch below your average Case Mini Trapper in terms of Fit n Finish, it's just not quite as clean in it's lines and polish. The only two real knocks I can give it are the minor gaps in the back springs and the nail nicks are a tad hidden, they could be easier to access. I stand by my original impressions that this is a solid option at $40.00. Can't wait to see what they bring out next, if they can fix those little details, and if they can keep the price down.

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  5. Roy Batty

    Roy Batty Y'all can sling load DEEZ NUTS Platinum Member

    May 25, 2016
    Personally, I don’t think reviewing the best from the quality department “invalidates” a review... that’s a strong word and highly argumentative.
    There are plenty of characteristics about a knife to review outside of “what type of quality does my random sample come from the factory in”... that is just one aspect. There are things like blade shape...steel...ergonomics...design...etc. that are all still “valid” to review, so as I said it depends on the type of review you’re doing... so I can see both sides of this but the word “invalidate” without context is provocative IMHO.
     
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  6. r8shell

    r8shell Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Jan 16, 2010
    I don't disagree.
    I'd say it's best if it's stated at the beginning of a review, just as another piece of information the viewer can take into account.
     
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  7. hornetguy

    hornetguy Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 11, 2015
    I agree, all around. I flushed mine out with some 3 in 1, and got a lot of black out of it. There was even quite a bit all along the blade well. I cleaned it out as best I could, and worked the oil through the joints for maybe 5 minutes per blade. This smoothed it out a LOT... still not perfectly smooth, but it is still pretty nice.
    Next will be edge work..
     
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  8. Roy Batty

    Roy Batty Y'all can sling load DEEZ NUTS Platinum Member

    May 25, 2016
    Yes, good point. It SHOULD be known up front so the expectation is known that this was the best the company had to offer (or so we would hope). Personally I like the random sampling better... as quality expectation is important in a review for me.
     
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  9. Bartleby

    Bartleby

    Oct 28, 2005
    And it is very good of you to do so! I have always thought the lack of comparative product review is a missed opportunity. Too often opinions, both good and bad, are based on one example. As more members purchase examples of a particular product, it would be nice to see comparative input. This would help to level out input based on really good or really bad examples without having an individual bear the cost of purchasing several comparative examples. A tag line of Virtual Comparison Review (VCR) would give folks the heads up as they scroll through threads would help.
     
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  10. WolfyW

    WolfyW

    154
    Oct 28, 2017
    Nifty to see a company testing the waters and putting out something I wouldn't hesitate to drop into my pocket and head outdoors with.
     
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  11. lambertiana

    lambertiana Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 7, 2000
    From what I can see in the pictures, it appears that the edges are ground thin, which is a requirement before I will consider buying. Hopefully Bear will continue to improve; if so, this line of knives will be a contender at the price point.

    With 440 blades (my bet is 440A), if they do a decent heat treat these knives should do well.
     
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  12. Eli Chaps

    Eli Chaps Gold Member Gold Member Basic Member

    Apr 20, 2018
    That's fair and if stated at the start of the video I wouldn't have any issue with it.
     
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  13. AnW

    AnW Gold Member Gold Member

    770
    Jun 15, 2019
    Since this is something you like doing, don't get frustrated, just keep on keeping on. I enjoy your reviews.

    As long as you don't mention you'll be doing a review in social media, I don't feel asking them to do extra QC invalidates your review - we can all do this when ordering a knife.

    In this case however you did mention it, so maybe they give extra attention to the knife they send you (and maybe not).

    At any rate, keep doing what you love and doing it with integrity.
     
  14. mbkr

    mbkr Gold Member Gold Member

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    May 20, 2018
    They are sold out, so I'd say the pilot test run was a success from a sales standpoint. Now lets see what they do next.
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  15. JohnDF

    JohnDF Gold Member Gold Member

    May 14, 2018
    Awesome... Time to sell mine for double the price... Lol :D
     
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  16. mbkr

    mbkr Gold Member Gold Member

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    May 20, 2018
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  17. brownshoe

    brownshoe I support this site with my MIND

    Sep 6, 2002
    Glad it works for you. But checking every knife is a pita for the retailer. QC should be at the factory, or the buyer is too.....

    I don't ask for a dealer to check a knife before shipment. I assume karma will work in my favor. When offered (by New Graham), I take it. They told me the pattern has issues, Benchmade Park Avenue, and if I waited, they'd see if the flaws were OK with me. So I did, and I took the one that two tiny flaws in the coating :)
     
  18. hornetguy

    hornetguy Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 11, 2015
    If you could figure out some way to put "GEC" in the description, I'm sure one of the "Ebay boys" would snatch it right up on the exchange.
     
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  19. Headwinds

    Headwinds Basic Member Basic Member

    402
    Jan 15, 2016
    How about "Compare to GEC Trapper"? :)
     
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  20. JohnDF

    JohnDF Gold Member Gold Member

    May 14, 2018
    The GEC is well worth twice the price. :)
     

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