New Leatherman Super Tool 300

you know, they aught to just bring back the original ST. i've never heard anyone say they DIDN'T love the thing, and it would've been a great thing to mark their big anniversary instead of a sterling silver Charge that nobody's gonna use even if they can afford to buy it.

znapschatz said:
There are advantages to an "open accessible" format. In dirty, dusty environments, the works stay cleaner than with outside access tools that are always exposed to mung getting in the spaces between blades and implements. It is also easier to use the multitool as an expedient tack hammer, if necessary; not advisable, but I've done it successfully on occasion with a Super Tool, later a Core. Also, the original Leatherman layout is straightforward simple, more likely to be reliable in hard use.

That said, I am hugely fond of my Charge TTi, but swap it out for a Core if I expect heavy duty work, nasty conditions or remote locations. The Charge is fine for most of what I encounter, but I have a bit more confidence in the Core.
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i just don't see it as a huge improvement. certainly not enough to shell out near of 100$ for one when my Wave serves my needs(though a better blade steel would be nice).
well, i don't live in a very dusty area, and i'd just prefer to not have to open the pliers to get at the tools. if they're worried about grit, make the things easier to take apart and clean like the SOG pliers.
 
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darth kcorbe said:
you know, they aught to just bring back the original ST. i've never heard anyone say they DIDN'T love the thing, and it would've been a great thing to mark their big anniversary instead of a sterling silver Charge that nobody's gonna use even if they can afford to buy it.
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Count me among that number. My first Leatherman was a PST, okay but didn't quite fill the bill. Then came the Super Tool and True Happiness was mine at last. That thing hung on my belt for years and did it all, with a Micra tucked into my jeans watch pocket for scissors and grooming chores. But you can't go back. Today, there are any number of multitools comparable that are more convenient to use and easier on the hand. I won't get into the conversation about whether quality has declined, but I have found the Core to be just as tough with better tools and easier to use.

darth kcorbe said:
i just don't see it as a huge improvement. certainly not enough to shell out near of 100$ for one when my Wave serves my needs(though a better blade steel would be nice).
well, i don't live in a very dusty area, and i'd just prefer to not have to open the pliers to get at the tools. if they're worried about grit, make the things easier to take apart and clean like the SOG pliers.
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I love my Charge. Ever onward :):rolleyes:.
 
outstanding!
finally, Leatherman takes a valuable lesson from Gerber with those replacable wire cutter blades.
wonder if the plierhead assembly on that black ox ST300 would be applied to future Leatherman models.
would be cool if one could swap heads with the older tools someday...<hint! hint!>
 
Am I the only one still using the Original Super Tool and wishing it was still made?

Don't get me wrong, I am all for new stuff, just I don't understand why stuff that is proven and works, has to be replaced with new stuff similar to it all the time.
 
They need to cut the weight back, I can really feel the Core on my belt, not so much my older ST-200. The new ST-300 appears to be as heavy as the Core.
 
sm2 said:
Am I the only one still using the Original Super Tool and wishing it was still made?

Don't get me wrong, I am all for new stuff, just I don't understand why stuff that is proven and works, has to be replaced with new stuff similar to it all the time.
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Not at all. I still carry my Supertool sometimes and still feel it's up to the task. Lovely and slim compared to the Core (and the ST300 I suspect) and I really don't find it to be uncomfortable in use.
 
That thing certainly looks able, but the main reason my Charge stays with me is the one hand open/close of the knife blade without having to open the tool. It goes back into my pocket just as fast as it came out. I get a little misty once in a while when I start thinking about the knife that isn't in my pocket because of my Leatherman.
 
Can't wait, since I first read this thread, I have been day dreaming, On weight, per the specs I read, it is about 7/10ths of an ounce less weight than the Core. So it will not be an issue for me.


RickJ
 
This thread inspired me to go back and take a look at my ST200. Trusty and scuffed and work-worn, it sits at the bottom of my drawer. Not because it is not a capable tool with years of service left in it, but because I dare not break it lest it need to be replaced by the current LM offerings.

The thumb-peeler locks didn't bother me any;)

We'll see. I like the looks of this one, but I need to handle one to see how chunky it feels and if it goes back to OLD LM standards of finish or is as crude as the other new stuff. I would love a ST/Core/Whatever that kept 95% of the tools on the inside but had an outside knife blade. THAT would be handy for me and well worth the duplication of tools that I already have on hand.
 
sm2 said:
Am I the only one still using the Original Super Tool and wishing it was still made?

Don't get me wrong, I am all for new stuff, just I don't understand why stuff that is proven and works, has to be replaced with new stuff similar to it all the time.
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What I liked about the Super Tool: strong implements with good, simple lockup; a near perfect selection of tools (IMHO); manageable weight and shape, fits perfectly in a Nite Ize combo pouch. I was not bothered by tool clumping, never considered it a negative.

What I didn't like about the Super Tool: awkward unlocking procedure, slow with potential for cuts (never happened, but it took concentration); sharp edges on the handles in pliers mode, couldn't crank down hard without a glove or folded hanky to protect my hand.

Super Tool 200 corrected some of that, but the lock release levers were awkwardly placed, difficult to actuate with wet or cold hands and making for an uncomfortable grip on the tool when using knives or implements. Other than that, it was a good upgrade, but the next generation Core solved the lock issue and tweaked tool access very well. I can pull out any of the implements easily, even with gloves on, no fingernails required. Except for OH blade openeing, it's the easiest multitool for work I have yet experienced. OTOH, the Core version gained a little weight and width, but not enough for a dealbreaker (IMHO).

There is no need to lament the Super Tool. Although long discontinued, plenty of them are available used in good condition on the secondary market. Sometimes you can even find one NIB.
 
I really want a nicer leather sheath to go with this one, I want the tool but the basic leather sheath that came with my Core, well Sucked! So I would like to see a much higher quality leather sheath for the ST300.

RickJ
 
Hi All,

I've got a few Leatherman MT's. Frankly while the ST was an improvement over the PST and the PST II, both really were not what they should be.

As to the ST300, enough people bitched about the plastic in the Core, I see this as an answer to those bitches. Once I saw the info on the ST 300, I replaced my Blast EDC of 2 years with the Core. Anyone who complains about the weight of the Core must simply fall into the wimp category.

I've got both of the ST300's on order. Hope some of you do as well.

Cheers - Joe
 
The Black and the Shiny one! again the only thing I want with it is a good leather sheath, something better than what they put out with the Core.

RickJ
 
I really want to see what kind of sheath comes with this, the standard Leather just ain't gonna cut it for me, I want to see something a little nicer and more robust for this bad boy.

RickJ
 
The open-accessible tools are a real turn off. I don't see the point of making it more difficult to access 80% of the functions on the tool. JMO.
 
I can't see much difference between this one and the core. just a different body style, and replaceable wire cutter blades. I can't see the advantage of the different body. although the replaceable cutter blades would come in handy for people who use them alot (which I don't)

I'll stick with my core, although I do wish they used the old style leather sheaths, rather than the current ones, dad has one on his leatherman (not sure of model) and it's great.

I will say that I do find the core a little heavy to carry sometimes, but only when it's been dumped in a pocket. which is something that the new one will probably suffer from as well, the only way to cut the weight far enough would be to sacrifice tools (or make it out of titanium)
 
I have a bad feeling that the new, crappy leather sheathes are a permanent change, which is a real shame as i prefer leather over nylon for knife sheaths. i caved and got a Crunch a while back and it came with one of the new leather sheathes. a lot thinner, stiffer, and overall feels inferior to the old ones. If i started using it regularly i'd make my own sheath for the thing.
 
one45auto said:
This may be a stupid question, but does the PowerAssist flip open with one hand as easily as the PowerLock? Got any pics?
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The pliers flip open just as easily on the PowerAssist as the PowerLock. On my first PowerAssist the assisted opening blades didn't fully deploy until I loosened the hex bolts but I've had the opportunity to use more than one and the others worked fine right out of the box.

Here are a few photos:

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I replaced the v-cutter with the wire stripper on one of mine:

powerassist-tool-swap.jpg


Here's a quick photo of the forerunners to the Super Tool 300:

supertool-core-comparison.jpg
 
Oh, suh-weet!!! I'm going to have to get me one of those!! :D

By the way, does anyone know when the Supertool 300 is due to hit the shelves?
 
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