New Lionsteel PM-2????

[Quiff]

Hi all,
I've been reading BladeForums for some time now, but have just registered.
I remember earlier this year seeing Gianni saying somewhere that a linerlock carbon fiber PM-2 may be out.

And I just found out that KnifeCenter has listed a new Lionsteel PM-1 knife,
with the title and the picture both show a lockback knife,
but in the description says it's a "PM-1 BK Police Linerlock Folder".

Does anybody knows that if it's the PM-2 that Gianni talked about,
only with the wrong picture and wrong product name?
Or it's the normal PM-1, but with the wrong description?

 

[RamZar]

There are two types of PM-1. Black blade (PM-1) and stonewashed (PM-1S).

On a Swiss website I saw a PM-2 which is supposed to be out this month for 174 Swiss Franc ($189):

LionSteel PM-2 Specifications:
Sleipner steel blade of high-performance
Strengthening 3.5mm blade
Stonewash finish blade optional
Blade length 85mm
Overall length 205mm
Length closed 11.5cm
Weight 165 grams
3D black G10 handle scales
Linerlock (extremely strong liner lock)
Diameter is extremely good in the hand
All rounded edges
Pocket clip can be removed using the enclosed key
Included: folding knives PM-2, key
Made in Italy

 

[Quiff]

Wow! Thank you for the PM-2 photo.
Seems like it's only KnifeCenter using the wrong description.

I found a PM-2 photo on www.polizeibedarf.ch too.

But to me, unlike SR-1 & SR-2 which are practically the same knife but in different sizes,
PM-2 seems so different from PM-1,
they hardly resemble each other.

 

[RamZar]

Wow! Thank you for the PM-2 photo.
Seems like it's only KnifeCenter using the wrong description.

I found a PM-2 photo on www.polizeibedarf.ch too.

But to me, unlike SR-1 & SR-2 which are practically the same knife but in different sizes,
PM-2 seems so different from PM-1,
they hardly resemble each other.

I also think that PM-1 and PM-2 do not look anything alike. However, I think their main concern was to drop the price substantially.

 

[RamZar]

LionSteel PM-2 available at ExtremAddiction and KnifeCenter.

 

[austonh]

LionSteel PM-2 available at ExtremAddiction and KnifeCenter.

The PM2 looks great. My only concern would be the overall thickness of the knife. Although I can't find those specs anywhere.

Are you going to pick one up RamZar?

 

[RamZar]

The PM2 looks great. My only concern would be the overall thickness of the knife. Although I can't find those specs anywhere.

Are you going to pick one up RamZar?

Ordered one already and it should be here by the weekend. I believe the thickness is 0.14 inches but I'll measure it when it comes in.

 

[austonh]

Ordered one already and it should be here by the weekend. I believe the thickness is 0.14 inches but I'll measure it when it comes in.

Sounds great, thanks!

 

[ExtremAddiction]

few pics .

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[RamZar]

I've had my LionSteel PM-2 for several days now and it has buttery smooth from day one. That's unlike my PM-1 which I got earlier this year which needed a lot of breakin time.

The fit and finish are superb and it's an excellent cutter. Feels real good in the hand. Both have Sleipner steel.

PM-2: 3.6", 6 oz, liner lock.
PM-1: 3.4", 6.75 oz, lock back.

PM-2 is very smooth and PM-1 built like a tank.

 

[austonh]

Excellent, great pictures. What's the overall handle thickness? :

 

[RamZar]

what's the overall handle thickness?

pm-2: 0.61"
pm-1: 0.58"

 

[austonh]

pm-2: 0.61"
pm-1: 0.58"

Thanks!

 

[Aidansdaddy17]

I've had my LionSteel PM-2 for several days now and it has buttery smooth from day one. That's unlike my PM-1 which I got earlier this year which needed a lot of breakin time.

The fit and finish are superb and it's an excellent cutter. Feels real good in the hand. Both have Sleipner steel.

PM-2: 3.6", 6 oz, liner lock.
PM-1: 3.4", 6.75 oz, lock back.

PM-2 is very smooth and PM-1 built like a tank.

Looks really nice! Great ergos and blade shape. Love that belly. I wish it was 3.5"

 

[Aidansdaddy17]

I have one. Awesome but letting go for another interest. Locks up so solid. And a beefy folder!

 

[AndiR]

Pm 1 MK3 should come out in the next 4 Weeks according to the Swiss Online Shop who specified/designed it

 

[RamZar]

Pm 1 MK3 should come out inthronisiert next 4 Weeks according to the Swiss Online Shop who specified/designed it

It's a lockback like the original PM1?

Based on TM1 lockback with IKBS and integral frame?

Any pictures?

 

[AndiR]

No Details except "based on the latest Lionsteel Technology" - Whatever that means

 

[RamZar]

Probably means IKBS because the Additive Manufacturing of TM1 Ti-Dust is only prototypes. It could mean the old Solid / Integral frame but that has been around with LionSteel for over 4 years now.

 

[Quiff]

On the website it says (Google Translated):

NEW Lion Steel is currently producing exclusively for Polizeibedarf.ch a new heavily revised version of the highly successful Swiss police jackknife PM-1. The PM.1 MK.III is about 30% lighter be (thanks to new technology) and will have a blade made of steel NIOLOX. The new PM-1 Mk.III will be available in about 2 ... 3 months.

Seems like the older version MK.II is also on sale over the Swiss Website too.
It's a little tempting because I've been searching for the PM-1 for nine months with no results,
and was being put on a waiting list since then,
when I bought and paid a PM-1 with Thanksgiving discounts on a well reputated US website,
and after a few days the website told me that although the PM-1 showed up in their computer,
but they couldn't find the knife in their inventory,
and I have to wait for restock.

As time flown by it's now nine months already.
It was a sad sad day for me.

I don't know if I should wait for the MK.III to come out,
or grab the chance and just buy the on sale MK.II,
and go through all the trouble buying on a Swiss website that's not famous for their customer service.

BTW, the Swiss website also says:

BREAKING NEWS: The Italian company Fox Knives Military Division is currently working closely with Polizeibedarf.ch together on a development of a new Swiss police folding knife PM-third The knife should come out in the third quarter of 2014.