New Member Issues

[Sharp & Fiery]

JONVHERBERT

You may want to edit your cell number out, this is a publicly accessable site

 

[craytab]

@davemo96 It's only fair since his name is being brought up.

And on ignore he goes.

 

[JohnWE]

You know, I understand what you mean and I will admit that it does come off as entitlement. It’s not intentful. But I’ll take that feedback and move forward more thoughtfully with it in mind. I know I gave the time up - but I also explained to him that it was family time and I’d have to keep it short, but that due to the value of the knife and the fact I’m a new member, I wasn’t feeling good about rejecting to talk to a man verbally on the phone, where you tend to get a much better look into who someone is. The phone call was made up of a zillion off topic stories, and I couldn’t get a word out without being interrupted, nor could i find a way to end the conversation. As a new member here I didn’t think that hanging up on someone wanting to buy from me was proper form. I could’ve rejected; I didn’t. That’s on me. And honestly, I’m ok with people backing out of sales because of X, Y, or Z. Life happens. I’ve had to back out of sales myself. But I did so with as much respect and courtesy to the other person and their time as I could. I’ve just never had someone call/text me so much, wanting assurance that they were absolutely going to be receiving the knife, making sure that my posts were revised to mark sale pending, and me promising to send it out the next day. Then the next morning it’s like I’m talking to a totally different person - completely different deal terms referenced, I was asked to ship my knife and he pay after receiving it, tone of voice was different, much calmer demeanor, but was asking a ton of questions that I had already answered multiple times. So it definitely bothered me more than it should have. Regardless, I accept my fault in the situation and appreciate the feedback.

The Sociopath Next Door book by Martha Stout

Well worth the read.

 

[Jake Dudley]

I agree with that, the only crappy part is that PayPal G&S will result in a tax change and will be listed as additional income, from what I’ve been told. But if this is incorrect and G&S will not affect tax status, please let me know

I saw that both your cut once sebenzas sold on eBay. Just thought you should know that they will also be reporting that as income in 2023.

 

[stonesell]

The worst one BY FAR has been “Davemo96”, or David Parker. He made an offer on my Pheasant Tail, I accepted. Per our agreement, I revised the post to reflect “sold, pending funds”. He asked to speak on the phone instead of text, fine; whatever. Then he wants me to send him a bunch of photos via email - sure, I do it. I told him repeatedly that I was spending time with my fiancé/family, but he continued to need more and more and more - all while reassuring me several times that he was “definitely buying it”. We agreed to PayPal, and I even went as far as sending him photos of my state issued drivers license, OSHA 30 card, and business card to give him additional sense of security for the transaction. I also agreed to do G&S, if he would cover the 3.5% fee. All of my stuff matches - my name here, name on ID, email, OSHA, even caller ID. So he promises he’s buying it. Repeatly. But the more we spoke, the more he was constantly asking the same questions over and over; either old or drunk I assumed. He contacts me later that night, begs me to sell him my Wilson Combat small logo Zaan. After repeatedly telling him it wasn’t really for sale and that it probably meant more to me than it was actually worth; I gave in. I told him to send me some pictures of some Shiros he dangled infront of me. He offered a cash desk for both knives as well. I explained to him why I was needing cash with life’s current situations. I clearly explained the deal repeatedly but he again, he kept saying the same stuff over and over. Finally, my fiancé was getting really upset because Sunday’s are “our days”. So I told him I’d message him when I woke up, and that if he was awake - he could call me. He called me at 7am or so, wanting me to either send the knife first and then he pay upon receiving it, or accept $400 less than the figure we agreed to SEVERAL times. In my eyes, this guy is completely lacking a spine and was trying to take advantage of a new member. Despicable. I have all of the emails and texts and phone history to back up every claim made as well. This is how I ended our conversation this evening.

Complete BS. You should not be giving out your information like that. I’ve never seen some weird request like that person is asking for. Selling your knife here should be a pleasant and respectful transaction, which it usually is. Even if you are a new seller, there is no obligation to prove anything about your personal documents. Most of us can easily determine much about a person from just a normal amount of polite communication, so good pictures, with a good description, and accepting PayPal G&S should be enough.

 

[txsnoman]

I do one better: I set up a BF account because I’m on the hunt for an RMJ Jenny Wren. Found one listed for sale . . . But seller won’t sell it to me because I don’t have enough feedback. I’d get it if I had just hopped on and listed a rare blade with no clout or community feedback, but I just can’t wrap my head around not selling to someone when the buyer takes the risk when paying first.

 

[LastRodeo]

I do one better: I set up a BF account because I’m on the hunt for an RMJ Jenny Wren. Found one listed for sale . . . But seller won’t sell it to me because I don’t have enough feedback. I’d get it if I had just hopped on and listed a rare blade with no clout or community feedback, but I just can’t wrap my head around not selling to someone when the buyer takes the risk when paying first.

There are ways for scammer to commit fraud when buying also. I'm not going to create a "how to" by listing them here, but it has been done many times before.

 

[JONVHERBERT]

I do one better: I set up a BF account because I’m on the hunt for an RMJ Jenny Wren. Found one listed for sale . . . But seller won’t sell it to me because I don’t have enough feedback. I’d get it if I had just hopped on and listed a rare blade with no clout or community feedback, but I just can’t wrap my head around not selling to someone when the buyer takes the risk when paying first.

You can still scam someone as a buyer, so yes, verified feedback is crucial. But you’re better off dealing with lower cost knives at first. Trust me, it was hard for me because I transitioned from Facebook where I had tons & tons of feedback but also plenty of extremely rare and expensive knives. So then I came to bladeforums and people thought I was a scammer because I had all of these rare knives for sale with no feedback. You just have to stick it out and treat people well, keep great communication, and things will work out over time.

 

[madcap_magician]

You can still scam someone as a buyer, so yes, verified feedback is crucial. But you’re better off dealing with lower cost knives at first. Trust me, it was hard for me because I transitioned from Facebook where I had tons & tons of feedback but also plenty of extremely rare and expensive knives. So then I came to bladeforums and people thought I was a scammer because I had all of these rare knives for sale with no feedback. You just have to stick it out and treat people well, keep great communication, and things will work out over time.

You seem like a decent egg, and I'd sell to you with no problem. I have been on Bladeforums nearly 20 years, when Facebook was just invented, and you needed to have a college e-mail address to get in. Facebook knife groups are very hit or miss, as I'm sure you know. Some of the flea market ones are just trash, some of the maker-specific ones are really cult-like, but some are decent. Just like on Facebook, you still have to do due diligence looking into folks here. That davemo96 guy, a quick glance at his Bladeforums profile revealed that he is a longtime member but mainly a lurker and only in the buy, sell, and trade subforums. I would sell to a guy like that, but I'd be ready to bail instantly at the first sign of hinkiness, which... you got abundant signs of hinkiness from him.

The best buyers and sellers here are the people who participate in the forums for reasons other than just buying and selling.

 

[JONVHERBERT]

You seem like a decent egg, and I'd sell to you with no problem. I have been on Bladeforums nearly 20 years, when Facebook was just invented, and you needed to have a college e-mail address to get in. Facebook knife groups are very hit or miss, as I'm sure you know. Some of the flea market ones are just trash, some of the maker-specific ones are really cult-like, but some are decent. Just like on Facebook, you still have to do due diligence looking into folks here. That davemo96 guy, a quick glance at his Bladeforums profile revealed that he is a longtime member but mainly a lurker and only in the buy, sell, and trade subforums. I would sell to a guy like that, but I'd be ready to bail instantly at the first sign of hinkiness, which... you got abundant signs of hinkiness from him.

The best buyers and sellers here are the people who participate in the forums for reasons other than just buying and selling.

Thank you sir, very well said. I must admit most of my activity here has been buying and selling but that’s also due to the fact that once someone and I deal together and have a positive experience, we usually keep in touch via phone and whatnot.

But, I’ve just completed the ENTIRE Wilson combat Crk collection and am really looking forward to doing a post about them, and also ask for some feedback. I have them all in phenomenal condition with all docs and boxes but am considering having them “modded”. Where they are converted to assisted with the press of a button.
Am example shown here. But it’s never been done to a Wilson combat variant.

 

[woodysone]

Thank you sir, very well said. I must admit most of my activity here has been buying and selling but that’s also due to the fact that once someone and I deal together and have a positive experience, we usually keep in touch via phone and whatnot.

But, I’ve just completed the ENTIRE Wilson combat Crk collection and am really looking forward to doing a post about them, and also ask for some feedback. I have them all in phenomenal condition with all docs and boxes but am considering having them “modded”. Where they are converted to assisted with the press of a button.
Am example shown here. But it’s never been done to a Wilson combat variant.

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