New Mill and Milling Station - What did I get myself into???

Before I go through all of the work to get the mill onto the benchtop, are there any final mods that I should make to the bench itself? I imagine that it is best to bolt the machine directly (and securely) to the top to effectively increase the vibratory mass of the unit... but should I also place some sort of vibration-isolating layer somewhere? Like a layer of foam flooring material between the cabinets and benchtop?
 
Just a quick post. I know that I already tested the bench for it's load-bearing capacity; however, in the spirit of overbuilding, I added some additional external steel framing to the end on which the mill will sit (note: as mentioned in the OP, there's already some hidden/internal 1-1/4" steel pipe supports between the two doors/drawers).

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This is my first attempt at welding (as mentioned, I bought a welder at the same time as the mill)... so forgive the sloppy beads. I am to welding as Pamela Anderson is to acting... ;) We may be terrible... but we look good doing it. :p
 
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Did you fasten your cabnet to the wall?, you will get some vibration and torque which can make the cabnet distort and move. You may be able to sink some anchor bolts through the frame into the wall to hold it tight.
 
You got a way with words, Erin. You might be an actor too!

:D


That looks like a great project. Glad I'm not the only one nuts enough to try stuff like this. LOL

I can't count the times I've unloaded stuff off trucks that was WAY too heavy...even for 4 of us.


Good luck with your project....stay away from any machinist-smarty-pants....and post pics when it's done!

Dan

Dan
 
Did you fasten your cabnet to the wall?, you will get some vibration and torque which can make the cabnet distort and move. You may be able to sink some anchor bolts through the frame into the wall to hold it tight.

Aaarrrgh :eek:... Nope, didn't fasten it to the wall. Guess I'm going to have to build another set of brackets. By the time I'm done, this bench will not only hold up the mill, but the rest of the house as well. :D


You got a way with words, Erin. You might be an actor too!

I might... except that I can't act and am a lard-a$$. :D


I can't count the times I've unloaded stuff off trucks that was WAY too heavy...even for 4 of us.

Funny thing is, about two days previous I really strained my lower back lifting my 50lb lawn-mower in and out of our van. It was more painful than watching Celine Dion perform. Seems like moving the 450lb mill into the basement actually helped relieve that pain. :eek: Who needs a chiropractor. ;)
 
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Good luck with your project....stay away from any machinist-smarty-pants....and post pics when it's done!

Dan

Dan

I resemble that remark!!


On the smarty pants machinist point...I will throw my two cents in...

I would not bolt anything too stiff...as in to a wall..Here is a problem...Make it too stiff and it will pass the vibration to the part and or break something...You are better off with vibration isolation on the base of the cabinet and letting it float a bit...


Anyway..have fun! I love machining stuff for myself!

/end of smarty pants machinist input..

Bill
 
I spent a lot of time on this project over the weekend, and thought it was about time to post an update.

I had a friend stop by my place on Saturday to help lift the X3 up onto the bench. I had removed the table which dropped the weight by ~45lbs. It was still very heavy, but with strategic placement of a 2x4, we had it on the bench within 5-minutes.

Then I spent even more time cleaning off the red grease. I've probably put in three hours work in cleaning alone. :mad:

On Sunday night and Monday I went through the rigorous process of installing the DRO. That, I think, was the worst part of the whole process.

I had purchased one of these 3-axis DRO packages from ebay. The package comes with the mounting hardware and scales sized to fit the Sieg SX3 (which is basically the X3, but with a tilting head). Before buying the DRO kit, I had contacted other folks who had bought the same package to get their impressions. In general, they were all happy with the DRO, but indicated that the installation required a bit of head scratching.

NO KIDDING.

The DRO kit showed up in two boxes. One contained the display, the other held the scales and the mounting hardware. In the display box was an un-labeled CD. Opening it up on my computer, the disk was found to contain user's manuals for the DRO and installation instructions for the kit. The installation instructions consisted of four pages with photos. The instructions were incomplete, and written in poorly translated english. The photos were not much better. Much head-scratching was required.

I started by mounting the X axis scale. The first thing I noticed was that the scale was 1" too short to cover the full X axis travel. This is not a huge deal, simply a minor annoyance. I had to drill/tap a number of M5x0.8 holes on the back side of the table to mount everything... which involved removing and reinstalling the table multiple times.

The Y axis scales were a bit trickier to install - having multiple brackets to install - lots more head scratching. By this time, however, I had really nailed down my drilling/tapping procedure, so things went much faster than with the X axis. I did have to make a couple of extra aluminum spacers to make everything fit.

The Z axis required a bit of trimming of the stock supplied brackets. I think this may be due to slight differences between the X3 that I have and the SX3 that this kit was designed for (particularly where the head and column come together). I mostly just had to trim some brackets/spacers and drill a few holes.

Finally, last night I installed the display and wired everything up. This was easy as pie.

Bottom line on the DRO package:
  • The quality of the materials appears to be excellent. Both the scales and the display are quite nice for the price.
  • The quality of the installation instructions sucks hard. These could be greatly improved by adding an inventory of material provided and a description of where each piece should go. Having a better english translation wouldn't hurt either.
  • Some minor fabrication/adjustment is required to make this kit (designed for the SX3) fit the X3... nothing major, completely doable.
  • Installation takes a newbie like me approximately 8-hours... seriously.
So anyway, here are a couple of photos. Please ask if you have any questions.
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Erin
 
Hey Erin
i don't know how to tell ya this but you put the table on backward's:eek: How are you going to turn the dial so close to the heat treat oven ?? do you have complete travel as far as it can go and not hit the oven ? sorry just had to ask :confused:
 
Hey Erin
i don't know how to tell ya this but you put the table on backward's:eek: How are you going to turn the dial so close to the heat treat oven ?? do you have complete travel as far as it can go and not hit the oven ? sorry just had to ask :confused:

Yeah bro... lots o' clearance between the kiln and mill. Believe me, I know; I've been cranking that thing left & right, forward & backward, and (my favorite ;)) up & down non-stop for the past two days - to align the scales.

Now I just need to learn how to use it. :p
 
you could put at an angle so you have better access to both dials.

looks like a really nice machine for the size, i've been debating in my head whether to get that or a taig. i just plan on using it for guards and maybe some fixturing, but i usally have access to full size mills at work. keep us posted on how well it works
 
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How is the DRO to program? Do they have software to help or just movement instructions.

Patrick... keep in mind that you are dealing with a complet milling (and thus DRO) newb, but...

... I'm not sure I follow what you mean by program. I can see how you would program a CNC milling machine, for automated work; but these are just digital readouts. Not much programming, other than the ability to store points to memory, and a few other functions. You can check out the manual HERE.

That being said, I have been busy this week and haven't had a chance to play with the machine at all. I'll make sure to post something when I get some time in.
 
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