New Modified Pig Sticker

[MBWirenut]

Does this mean we may have to go out sooner? Let me know, I will see what we can do.

 

[xaman]

Whenever you're ready!

Anticipation is part of the fun though... I've not been doing any recently because of the heat anyway. Early fall sounds great.

Of course, if it just happens to work out sooner, I'd be game :thumbup:

 

[Andros]

Those shots were taken in western NSW, it’s mainly scrub, lignum and clay pan country. More sheep country than cattle.


Pigs in OZ, thrive in any terrain, with some huge fellas found in mountainous country. Where they can live to a ripe old age undetected.

A knife that I really fancy in pig country is the SJ-tac (I haven’t tried it yet.) but it feels just right for sticking and skinning.

Ian.

Ian

How do you kill wild boar? What kind of weapon do you use?

 

[Ian Allomes]

Ian

How do you kill wild boar? What kind of weapon do you use?

We only use a knife, it is far too dangerous to use a firearm with dogs running around you. Or worse still, a mate.
It is a simple matter of grabbing their hind legs (while the dog holds them) and rolling them onto their side. You force the knife in through the rib cage and into the heart.

If you wriggle the knife a little it will help accelerate the pigs death, they really do die quickly.

Here’s a few pictures of a pig being stuck with an SFNO it was take near my property boundary a year or two ago. I’ve posted these pics before.

Ian.

 

[darkestthicket]

Looks really good to me! modding yourself can be fun!

 

[Cutshaw]

I once met a gentleman who wrestled a circus bear and won.

A bunch of buddies put him up to it, and he managed to get on the bear's back and get a choke hold around its neck. The owner made him let go when the bear fell down with its tongue hanging out! This was one tough dude though. He survived the Bataan (sp?) death march in WWII, and marched the last 7 or 10 miles carrying a buddy over his shoulder, after being bayonetted twice himself. He showed us the scars- one bayonette ripped open his neck from chin to collarbone, and there was another scar about 6 inches long just under his ribcage... had to tuck his guts back in...

Back in the middle nineties, I was training for a whitewater distance race. This involved having a few extra days and going to a mild (Class II-III) whitewater river that I was comfortable running solo and doing multiple solo trips for speed. I hid my kayak at the put-in and drove to the takeout and hitched a ride back up. Dressed in paddling gear and standing next to a popular river, most people feel safe giving you a ride. On this particular cold, cloudy Tuesday, there wasn't a lot of traffic. A big, two door white Cadillac, mid-80's vintage with a steer-horn hood ornament finally pulled over. I climbed in the car and the gentleman introduced himself. He was a 60+ year old Cherokee (the reservation was less than 20 miles away) with lamb chop sideburns.

After I told him I grew up in Florida, he gave me a detailed account of his time spent in Florida wrestling alligators and black bears in a carnival as a twenty/thirty-something youth.

Hands down, it was the highlight of my day. :thumbup:

 

[Tyrkon Lawson]

I don't know how I missed this post. Great mod Xaman & Bill. Gives me ideas for my "E" handles. Does any one have a modified BA-E?

BTW: I once asked the Busse staff about Bills work, as I was thinking about buying a blade he had modified, and they told me to buy with confidence.

 

[Andros]

We only use a knife, it is far too dangerous to use a firearm with dogs running around you. Or worse still, a mate.
It is a simple matter of grabbing their hind legs (while the dog holds them) and rolling them onto their side. You force the knife in through the rib cage and into the heart.

If you wriggle the knife a little it will help accelerate the pigs death, they really do die quickly.

Here’s a few pictures of a pig being stuck with an SFNO it was take near my property boundary a year or two ago. I’ve posted these pics before.

Ian.

Ian

Thank you for the information. Those are some really fascinating pictures.
So, would you say that a 7 inch blade is enough for killing a boar as quickly as possibly? I think that SFNO has a blade of 7 inches, or am I wrong here?
What breed are your dogs? They really mean business! BTW, is this the dog's blood on its hind legs, or is it the boar's?

 

[idahoskunk]

very nice work, looks awesome!

 

[xaman]

7" will do it for sure, on everything but the biggest and baddest hogs (6 would probably work)

On a really big one you'd want to be pretty precise w/placement and angle if using a 7" blade. I'm not known for precision, so i went w/a 9" blade

 

[Rich_S]

I once met a gentleman who wrestled a circus bear and won.

A bunch of buddies put him up to it, and he managed to get on the bear's back and get a choke hold around its neck. The owner made him let go when the bear fell down with its tongue hanging out!

Interesting. I've wrestled around with my two big German Shepherds and putting chokeholds on them has absolutely no effect on them. It all comes down to figuring out where their carotid arteries are so you know where to apply pressure. With humans it's easy because you just line up your elbow with their chin and then the "V formed by the inside of your bent arm lines up perfectly with the carotids.

 

[Raden]

How about a NO-E like this, the top is not sharpened, but easily could be, it has great balance!

Man I wondered what happened to my old NO Variant

 

[Leatherface]

Ian,
Those are some really sweet pics ya got there...I have thought several times about hog hunting with a knife...Just couldnt make myself do it...Now I am considering it again

I am still down with that mod Xaman!!!!

 

[Cobalt]

Very nice Xaman. I like modified busses. I had Justin do my PBF's and I love how he did them.

 

[Cobalt]

Great pics Ian!

Is that typical cover for your hunts? It's quite a bit more dense brush here -- East Texas... Those pics look a bit like west and south texas though.

I've been looking hard at a Marlin 45-70 guide series lately -- gotta have something to match that BM-e! :thumbup:

I use to have a 45-70 Marlin a long time ago. I would load it with 420 grain Hardcast at 1800 fps. It would pretty much flatten anything that walks this planet within 100 yards. They are making much more powerfull loads these days as I have seen up to 500 grain loads. For pigs that is really not needed. A lever action in 454 casull would be perfect for pig.

 

[xaman]

Anybody have any experience with a 35 Whelen?

I've never fired one, but it seems it may be a good all-around combo for up close and a little distance if needed???

 

[Cobalt]

Anybody have any experience with a 35 Whelen?

I've never fired one, but it seems it may be a good all-around combo for up close and a little distance if needed???

excellent round. Basically a 30-06 fitted for 35 caliber size bullet. Another favorite is the 338-06. But for pigs even a good 308 is perfect. a 30-30 will do the job with modern bullets as well.

 

[xaman]

Yeah, but for a guy who like BUSSES... You know, we want something that will not only do the job --- but REALLY do the job

Seriously - I'm looking for one that would stop a charge at close range in dense cover (either tracking a wounded one or just coming across a real mean 300 pound hog in a creek bed or something - when running or climbing a tree is unavailable.)

So what I'm interested in is the kind of round that will crumple a hog if it hits it anywhere, not just the perfect shot scenerio... I'm pretty certain the 45/70 will --- but would like to know about the 35 whelen - specifically at close range. 250 gr bullet should do the trick, but the 45/70 is throwing a 300-400 gr , and the .444 is throwing a 300 gr.

Remington released a woodsmaster carbine auto in 35 whelen that is making me rethink my upcomin 45/70 guide gun purchase.

I gave up a MrS for this one, so I want to make the PERFECT choice :thumbup:

Thanks for the insight!

 

[Bufford]

Ian,
Those are some really sweet pics ya got there...I have thought several times about hog hunting with a knife...Just couldnt make myself do it...Now I am considering it again

I am still down with that mod Xaman!!!!

Go for it! Once you have killed a pig there is no going back. The adiction of hog killing is stronger than any narcotic or cigarette habit. Killing hogs on the farm is sorta like smoking cigs, wild boar hunting on the other hand is like crack, but without the harmful effects, and you will want more and more. A healthy addiction, keeps you fit and fills the freezer with prime protien.
PS. I have never done crack, but I am making reference to it as its addicting properties. Pig killing is addicting because our brains are hardwired back to our hunting and gathering instincts that are in us all. With that said sharpen up and belt up.

Now I got to call Ted and see if there's any work waiting to be done at the farm that requires that keen edge if you know what I mean.

 

[rbmcmjr]

So what I'm interested in is the kind of round that will crumple a hog if it hits it anywhere, not just the perfect shot scenerio... I'm pretty certain the 45/70 will --- but would like to know about the 35 whelen - specifically at close range. 250 gr bullet should do the trick, but the 45/70 is throwing a 300-400 gr , and the .444 is throwing a 300 gr.

I'm talking out my butt here (no actual hog hunting experience), but bear with me:

In my considered opinion, you are asking for trouble with a semi-auto like the Remington in a dangerous game situation. The Marlin is VERY reliable. Probably the only thing that is quicker on the follow-up shot would be a double rifle, and those are considerably more expensive.

OTOH, a Benelli Super Black Eagle with slugs is FAST and powerful and reliable. The recoil-operated action isn't prone to fouling like a gas-operated one.

My own personal designated pig-sticker is this custom Bowie from Mineral Mountain Hatchet Works (forgive me, Jerry). It is currently on its way to John Gonzalez (Dervish Knives) for a new set of scales and a sharpened upper clip.

0.25" thick 5160, 12" blade, 19+" overall:

(edited to fix a spelling error)