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sns3guppy said:
Clearly then, you know neither the Qu'ran, nor the Bible. Are you aware that Islam views the prophets of the Bible as true prophets?
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According to Matthew 4: even the Devil can quote scripture.

The twisted teachings of Islam point out mohammed as the Anti-Christ. Although it acknowledges Jesus as a prophet, it denies His divinity.

That is the fundamental difference.
 
Cyclura said:
According to Matthew 4: even the Devil can quote scripture.

The twisted teachings of Islam point out mohammed as the Anti-Christ. Although it acknowledges Jesus as a prophet, it denies His divinity.

That is the fundamental difference.
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There's a story that Thor called out Jesus to battle, but Jesus didn't show.
I'd say that just as credible as the other stories bandied around as Truth.
And Valhalla sounds less lame than many other mythical afterlife tales.
Thor for the win!
 
Blind faith in any religion is just plain dumb. In the end they are all about power, control and money, they just wrap the real intent up in a nice stories and convince you that only they have the true path to heaven. What a load of bull.

I would love 10 cents for every religion on this planet that thinks they have the right answer.

Just lose the crutches and go through life doing the right thing by others and yourself, it could not be easier.
 
Cyclura said:
The twisted teachings of Islam point out mohammed as the Anti-Christ. Although it acknowledges Jesus as a prophet, it denies His divinity.

That is the fundamental difference.
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J.C. divinity was added later. Obviously, Christianity leaders decided it was more fitting to make Jesus divine.
 
Contrary to what those who choose to persecute or lie about us wish to believe, Wicca is a very peaceful, harmonious and balanced way of life which promotes oneness with the divine and all which exists. :p
 
giant1 said:
Blind faith in any religion is just plain dumb. In the end they are all about power, control and money, they just wrap the real intent up in a nice stories and convince you that only they have the true path to heaven. What a load of bull.

I would love 10 cents for every religion on this planet that thinks they have the right answer.

Just lose the crutches and go through life doing the right thing by others and yourself, it could not be easier.
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In a country that was founded on the basis of freedom of religion, even long before the creation of the Continental Congress and the revolutionary war, it's amusing that so many are so full of condemnation of religion.

It's interesting that so many are so misinformed, too.

Christ's divinity was not inserted into the Cannon in later years, and in fact was foretold long before the authorship of the various books of the New Testament. Isiah prophesied it, and Christ himself was crucified because he declared his own divinity and eternal nature. It was his statement that "Before Abraham, I am" drove the Jews in his time stark raving bonkers, and lead them to push for his execution. In fact, at the time of his pronouncement, the crowd attempted to stone him to death, for declaring himself to be divine. The actual translation of his statement is more revealing, however, in that it doesn't just mean "I am," but Yahweh, which more specifically, was a direct pronunciation of his own divinity. Literally, it means "Before Abraham, I AM," meaning "I am God."

Religion exists far beyond the issues of "control" and "power" and "money." Far to the opposite, religion exists to address an intrinsic need in the human psyche, which is as necessary as physical nourishment or exercise. It's as necessary as intellectual stimulation, and the human emotional needs. The spiritual is an element of humanity which can certainly be abused, but which has nothing to do with money, power, or control. It has to do with understanding one's own self, understanding one's own relationship to the world and universe, and coming to terms with the questions one may have about one's own existence.

The weak mind generally gives way to the redneck argument that all wars are fought because of religion (they are not, though one could say that most wars stem from economic roots). The weak mind declares that religion is a product of the weak mind; a circular and pointless observation. The truth is that religion and spirituality are every bit as valid components of intellect and thought as is learning of physics and chemistry.

The point of the sermon, as referenced by Emerson here, is directed to radical religion. Radical believers, fueled by personal perception and tempered by political motivation and aims, are not about religion at all. When one's religion tends to interfere with the rights, privileges, and lives of others, to adversely affect them and take away from their own, then religion becomes problematic and a blight.

Islam is not a religion of peace. Islam is not a religion of destruction either. The purpose behind Islam is to preach and recognize that there is one God, and all things are subject to that God. Many, most in fact, practitioners of Islam are peaceful, law abiding, and live their lives with no thought to the harm of others. Certain radical believers use Islam as a vehicle for political motivations; this is not religion at all, but politics dressed as something else.

One can scarcely condemn religion for political acts by religious dissidents. Religion is a valuable, necessary part of any society. Religion is cast aside by those too closed-minded to properly explore it's worth, though it's rapidly embraced in times of need; hence, the tried-and-true statement that "there are no athiests in foxholes."

To have the arrogance to reject God in times of plenty is a luxury afforded the soft-bodied and self-absorbed, but one not easily afforded those who fear, those who hunger, or those in need. Spirituality is no crime, nor is it an offense. It's a founding premise of our own nation, the center of the First Ammendment, and a hallmark of our society. We recognize, embrace, allow, and support people from all cultures, all religions, all beliefs, so long as they do not infringe on another.

Extremists, radicalists, terrorists, and criminals have no part of that freedom, but seek to destroy it. Rather than inventing idiotic put-downs for recognized institutions of society, try to open up a bit and learn. You might be surprised at what you don't know.
 
sns3guppy said:
Islam is not a religion of peace. Islam is not a religion of destruction either. The purpose behind Islam is to preach and recognize that there is one God, and all things are subject to that God.
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Bingo.
 
cevtv said:
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TYR.... The original All-Father......;)
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Damn straight.

He was too much of a hardass so all the Aesir chose to follow Odin instead. Odin was a serious badass, but at least he was fun after a few flagons of mead.
 
Aw, shucks, it's really simple, folks. Y'all are going to Hell unless you give me all your money right now. PM me for wire transfer instructions.
 
sns3guppy said:
In a country that was founded on the basis of freedom of religion, even long before the creation of the Continental Congress and the revolutionary war, it's amusing that so many are so full of condemnation of religion.
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Freedom of religion as well as freedom to not believe

sns3guppy said:
It's interesting that so many are so misinformed, too.
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Misinformed according to who?
.....and why are we misinformed, is it because we don't subscribe to your brand of religion?


sns3guppy said:
Christ's divinity was not inserted into the Cannon in later years, and in fact was foretold long before the authorship of the various books of the New Testament. Isiah prophesied it, and Christ himself was crucified because he declared his own divinity and eternal nature. It was his statement that "Before Abraham, I am" drove the Jews in his time stark raving bonkers, and lead them to push for his execution. In fact, at the time of his pronouncement, the crowd attempted to stone him to death, for declaring himself to be divine. The actual translation of his statement is more revealing, however, in that it doesn't just mean "I am," but Yahweh, which more specifically, was a direct pronunciation of his own divinity. Literally, it means "Before Abraham, I AM," meaning "I am God."

Religion exists far beyond the issues of "control" and "power" and "money." Far to the opposite, religion exists to address an intrinsic need in the human psyche, which is as necessary as physical nourishment or exercise. It's as necessary as intellectual stimulation, and the human emotional needs. The spiritual is an element of humanity which can certainly be abused, but which has nothing to do with money, power, or control. It has to do with understanding one's own self, understanding one's own relationship to the world and universe, and coming to terms with the questions one may have about one's own existence.

The weak mind generally gives way to the redneck argument that all wars are fought because of religion (they are not, though one could say that most wars stem from economic roots). The weak mind declares that religion is a product of the weak mind; a circular and pointless observation. The truth is that religion and spirituality are every bit as valid components of intellect and thought as is learning of physics and chemistry.

The point of the sermon, as referenced by Emerson here, is directed to radical religion. Radical believers, fueled by personal perception and tempered by political motivation and aims, are not about religion at all. When one's religion tends to interfere with the rights, privileges, and lives of others, to adversely affect them and take away from their own, then religion becomes problematic and a blight.

Islam is not a religion of peace. Islam is not a religion of destruction either. The purpose behind Islam is to preach and recognize that there is one God, and all things are subject to that God. Many, most in fact, practitioners of Islam are peaceful, law abiding, and live their lives with no thought to the harm of others. Certain radical believers use Islam as a vehicle for political motivations; this is not religion at all, but politics dressed as something else.

One can scarcely condemn religion for political acts by religious dissidents. Religion is a valuable, necessary part of any society. Religion is cast aside by those too closed-minded to properly explore it's worth, though it's rapidly embraced in times of need; hence, the tried-and-true statement that "there are no athiests in foxholes."

To have the arrogance to reject God in times of plenty is a luxury afforded the soft-bodied and self-absorbed, but one not easily afforded those who fear, those who hunger, or those in need. Spirituality is no crime, nor is it an offense. It's a founding premise of our own nation, the center of the First Ammendment, and a hallmark of our society. We recognize, embrace, allow, and support people from all cultures, all religions, all beliefs, so long as they do not infringe on another.

Extremists, radicalists, terrorists, and criminals have no part of that freedom, but seek to destroy it. Rather than inventing idiotic put-downs for recognized institutions of society, try to open up a bit and learn. You might be surprised at what you don't know.
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Hate to say it but the rest of this post sounds like any other religion trying to justify it's existence.

You assume that the only way to be spiritual in this world is to follow a religious path and all it's undertakings which vary from religion to religion. I don't agree. I would say that a single man living on an island by himself could have a highly developed spiritual intellect or demeanor simply by the way he conducts himself, by his thoughts and by his actions. Priests, Bibles, Korans, Imams or Rabbis etc are not required. If the man has a good heart and good intentions then he is on the right path.

Have you ever asked yourself why there are so many religions in this world?

Have you ever asked yourself why the God of every religion allows some people to live a life of plenty in relative peace and harmony while others are born into lives of misery from which they have no hope of ever escaping?
How is it decided as to who gets what kind of life? Before you tell me it's all mans fault, remember that to fix this problem would take every human on the planet to agree to a course of action and then do it. What do you reckon that chances are of that happening? Why doesn't one of the Gods (any God will do) interfere a little and set things right???

I am certainly not a redneck and I am not speaking from a point of view of arrogance, but rather I question what I hear and see.

Actually my argument is not whether there is a God, my argument is with some of the ridiculous explanations that seem to come out of every religion as to why this world is the way it is. My argument is also with the double standards of most religions and the guilt trips they all use and the fact that most if not all are run like a business which seem to need a lot of money in order to function.

I do agree that there is no better goal than to grow on a spiritual level, I just think it can be done without having to donate every Sunday or reading from books which can be interpreted in so many different ways.
 
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