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Just to add to this, no one seems terribly concerned when the seller takes a hit on their knife when they try and resell it. The overwhelming majority of knives are sold on the exchange at a discount to retail and no one is interested in putting up threads about it. If we, as a community, are going to reap the benefits of this dynamic then we should accept the (relatively rare) detriments.
 
pwrdbycotn said:
Please explain why someone has to know the selling price of everything that has ever been bought for it to be a free market.
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/f/freemarket.asp
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It's called price signalling. That investopedia site is worthless. You can't have a floating price without knowledge of trends and history. Heck, you can't have an economy without knowledge of trends and history.
 
pwrdbycotn said:
I have absolutely no problem with it. If someone can make money off of a knife, gun, car, etc then good for them. If I don't like the price I don't have to buy it. I've never understood people that get their feelings hurt over someone else making a profit. There seem to be a lot of those people right now though. You can see them in large groups right now voting for hillary and bernie.
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Not only are there political threads here, there are whine and cheese ones as well, Mr Gold. Somebodies got'dur race tracks n tidey-wideys all bunched up too tight.
 
Yalius said:
It's called price signalling. That investopedia site is worthless. You can't have a floating price without knowledge of trends and history. Heck, you can't have an economy without knowledge of trends and history.
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oIlQuenched said:
Not only are there political threads here, there are whine and cheese ones as well, Mr Gold. Somebodies got'dur race tracks n tidey-wideys all bunched up too tight.
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Well, with great arguments like these who could disagree?

No point in having battles against someone who isn't armed. Have a good one.
 
Yalius said:
Then it's not a free market. Do it how you like, but don't claim it's something it isn't.
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Actually a free market is one that is self regulating, no outside (government) controls or safeties. Transparency doesn't fit into that anywhere. A true free market is regulated by supply and demand, neither of which depends on msrp. If A price is too high it won't sell, too low and supply will run out thereby raising price. A true buyer beware existence. I get your argument, but don't slam others for stating simple economic facts.
 
ooitzoo said:
Just to add to this, no one seems terribly concerned when the seller takes a hit on their knife when they try and resell it. The overwhelming majority of knives are sold on the exchange at a discount to retail and no one is interested in putting up threads about it. If we, as a community, are going to reap the benefits of this dynamic then we should accept the (relatively rare) detriments.
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+1 on this. I have sold a few knives on the bay over the years, and only have a made a profit (we're talking under $10) on 2 knives. Usually I sell them for up to a 50% loss. Its why I don't auction knives anymore, I lose more often then win.
 
I don't see absolutely anything wrong with someone buying something and then selling it for profit. If they paid the price the seller was willing to agree to and then sold that item for a price the buyer was willing to pay, what's the issue?

I see a knife that I previously sold on the exchange right now, and it's being sold at a profit to the seller I sold it to originally. I have no issue with that as I sold it for what I wanted to get out of it and if I had wanted more, I would have asked for it.

I'll scoop a knife up if it's a deal just to try it out, I do it all of the time, and if I end up not liking it and I can sell it and make a little extra to later purchase something else I want? No brainer.

Thought I should add - I don't think I've ever sold a knife even close to the original retail and the above statements still stand. I'm not out to flip but I'm also not going to deny myself a measly $20 profit if I can make it. I usually end up losing it in shipping/paypal costs anyway. I should also mention that just because someone has a price listed doesn't mean that's the end of the line. I myself expect negotiation on my price and I have found most of the members here are willing to negotiate as well.
 
oIlQuenched said:
Not only are there political threads here, there are whine and cheese ones as well, Mr Gold. Somebodies got'dur race tracks n tidey-wideys all bunched up too tight.
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What kind of crap response is this? There is an interesting discussion going on here and no one (other than you) seems to be wound up tight. Are you just trolling? If you can't contribute, sit back and let the men speak.
 
ooitzoo said:
Just to add to this, no one seems terribly concerned when the seller takes a hit on their knife when they try and resell it. The overwhelming majority of knives are sold on the exchange at a discount to retail and no one is interested in putting up threads about it. If we, as a community, are going to reap the benefits of this dynamic then we should accept the (relatively rare) detriments.
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Well said. :thumbup:

The notion of having any price control rules or even a gentlemen's understanding about pricing practices is a bad idea. If you don't like the price, don't buy it. Speaking of rules, I would not be surprised if a moderator stopped by to issue warnings to those that want to derail this thread into a political discussion. There is a place for that in the forum but it is not here.
 
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Brisket said:
Speaking of rules, I would not be surprised if a moderator stopped by to issue warnings to those that want to derail this thread into a political discussion. There is a place for that in the forum but it is not here.
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Quite so. Off topic ranting has been removed.

Political discussions belong in the Political Arena. Posting there requires a paid membership.
 
I think that it's particularly discouraging with regards to GEC as opposed to other production companies. GECs LARGE runs consist of 100 knives. It is expected that when a new pattern comes out, the next day there will be ones on eBay and the exchange that somebody bought specifically to flip while people that only wanted to buy the knife to collect or use had to be lucky or have to line the profiteers pockets.
 
Kitten Party said:
I think that it's particularly discouraging with regards to GEC as opposed to other production companies. GECs LARGE runs consist of 100 knives. It is expected that when a new pattern comes out, the next day there will be ones on eBay and the exchange that somebody bought specifically to flip while people that only wanted to buy the knife to collect or use had to be lucky or have to line the profiteers pockets.
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Its not as bad as you seem to make it sound - you can get any GEC knife with little awareness of the discussion forum (here), paying attention to dealer emails on early reservations, and asking around all dealers. This isn't a lot of effort. As an example, I always thought the TCs' were elusive, but can regularly have them by tracking that thread ("What makes a Good, Traditional Barlow?") at dealer prices. I miss a few, sure, but then that's the fun of it, isn't it? :-)
 
Probably matters not a whit, but I just read an old Blade article about the Loveless creation that was auctioned for $150K one day, then sold to a collector for $250K the next. Bob originally sold it for $350 so he could go grocery shopping.
Talk about flipping!
 
Kitten Party said:
I think that it's particularly discouraging with regards to GEC as opposed to other production companies. GECs LARGE runs consist of 100 knives. It is expected that when a new pattern comes out, the next day there will be ones on eBay and the exchange that somebody bought specifically to flip while people that only wanted to buy the knife to collect or use had to be lucky or have to line the profiteers pockets.
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Agreed, the issue I find is when some members decide to take advantage of Porch users who post the knives at prices meant to help out those looking for the knives...and then they're immediately flipped on ebay for enormous profit. There's no enjoyment in knives for these guys, they just want to make profit off a hobby that's supposed to be enjoyable.

The market is what the market is though.
 
I'm grateful to those whose main contribution to the Forum is to consistently flip for excessive profit. Their actions scream "Move on. Nothing(and no one)to see here." There's plenty more knives and good people to interact with.
 
Yalius said:
It's called price signalling. That investopedia site is worthless. You can't have a floating price without knowledge of trends and history. Heck, you can't have an economy without knowledge of trends and history.
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Agreed. ...
 
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