New Scagel knife...

brownshoe said:
The scagels made by Dave Shirley, orginal Northwoods owner, were all copied from existing Scagel knives. That was part of the appeal. He retired and sold the mark. Does anyone know if the new owner is still commited to reproducing existing Scagel knives or if they are just using the mark and shield?
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We are trying to build knives in Scagel style. Dave didn't make all of them as reproductions, but ventured out into style. I know some people won't like them, others really do. That is why there are lots of makers!

This is the last of the Scagel pocket knives that will be "standard" frames. We are having some new ones designed and lasered out. Should be great.

The next few knives will be fixed blades. They are being made by Bark River.

These knives are all full convex grind and are sharp as any pocket knife I have ever held. The quality is fantastic. We used several makers to put their touches on these knives and it shows.

As to the hole...I don't think Scagel ever got anything patented. I know Spyderco patented theirs.

I think that answers the questions.... :)
 
Thanks for the answer.

I noticed the earlier releases said scagel repro but not some of the later ones. Personally, I liked the idea of saving the scagel name/mark for repros. Kind of keeps the old boy alive.
 
brownshoe said:
Thanks for the answer.

I noticed the earlier releases said scagel repro but not some of the later ones. Personally, I liked the idea of saving the scagel name/mark for repros. Kind of keeps the old boy alive.
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The very last Dave Shirley Scagel was a Queen lockback. I am certain Scagel never made that!

Regardless, you will see some great knives coming out of this line. :)
 
Those are great looking knives Derrick. I was actually lucky enough to have dropped by the factory when these were being made, and I recognized them as your upcoming knives by descriptions I had read here or on your site. I love this type of nail nick and the blade shapes look great.
 
okbohn said:
The very last Dave Shirley Scagel was a Queen lockback. I am certain Scagel never made that!

Regardless, you will see some great knives coming out of this line. :)
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Derrick, I think that the point being made by brownshoe is that many of us would prefer to see the Scagel name still have historical meaning in terms of knives that end up associated with the name.

That said, I'm sure there was no intention to question the passion or quality you intend to bring to the knives you are involved with.
 
yep. I completely understand. We are working hard to make sure they will scream Scagel. :)
 
okbohn said:
yep. I completely understand. We are working hard to make sure they will scream Scagel. :)
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This makes me happy. :) At least so far in this series, even if the knife has very little more than the name and the shield in common with Old Bill's designs, at least they've all been quality knives with great steel.

I'm not *quite* as obsessive as I might sometimes sound about copying Scagel's originals *exactly* -- it's simply that he did a number of things really well - many of them unique to his designs - and I really want to see these features carried on, especially in his folders.

Tweaking them to make them single bladed and slimmer in the pocket is totally OK with me -- even scaling back the spring strength some is good. One of the very best examples I've seen of a custom Scagel folder capturing the proper design and spirit of Scagel's work had natural canvas micarta scales (I think Old Bill would have loved linen and canvas micarta - heck, he was known to cut up old bowling balls to get some of his spacer materials).
 
I love that Scagel would just use what he had--scraps from nearby factories, etc. He made works of art from scraps. I love that.

I think he would use micartas today as well just like you said.
 
Got the Indian River on its way from KSF - Wendy and Derrick sorted out a hiccup in the order in no time flat - excellent service :D :D

The white bone clippoint is the next thing on my list - bumped everything else - can't wait - been looking for this knife for at least two years - and will probably buy more than one of them :lol: :) :) :)
 
Anybody got a photo of the bone handled clippoint with the blade opened fully?

Cheers,

Trevor.
 
I've had my eye on those too. I particularly like the stag with the Wharncliffe blade. Looks like a nice carry.
 
Here you go.

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I got my Fruitport in yesterday, and I am very, very pleased with it. While some folks may take issue with the "historical inaccuracy" of the knife, they are overlooking what it really is, which is a GEC/ Bark River hybrid.

Think about that for a second. It is a beautifully-finished GEC with steel liners, an easy-opening Scagel pull, and Bark River's justly famous convex grind. How many Bark River folders have any of you guys seen? How many GEC's with screaming-sharp, full convex edges have you seen?

And the bone is gorgeous. I don't know why makers bother with so much jigging and dyeing- plain, smooth bone is as pretty a handle material as you're gonna get (to my eyes, anyway). These knives are sweet. :thumbup: The slip pouch that comes with the knife is really nice too. "Girly" though it may be. :D

:edit: I have the clip point, smooth bone version. Any pictures I took would not do the knife any justice, Derrick's images above are much better than anything I could take.
 
.. A bit of easy trivia for those just getting familiar with William Wales Scagel knives..

Anyone know what this pocket knife's namesake, "Fruitport" refers too??


Anthony
 
sunnyd said:
.. A bit of easy trivia for those just getting familiar with William Wales Scagel knives..

Anyone know what this pocket knife's namesake, "Fruitport" refers too??


Anthony
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Isn't it the town where Scagel lived and worked?
 
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