New Software: What's the verdict?

How do you like the new forums software?

  • I love it! I want to have it's babies! Charge me $100 per year to use it!

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  • It's pretty damn good

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  • It's about the same as the last one

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  • It's not a change for the better

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  • It sucks donkey balls, switch back to the old format.

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Spark, Fellow Listees,


Find it takes me extra time to browse the for sale forums since I am interested in fixed blades and folders. Why make the distinction between production and custom, especially since some knives like Randall's and Sebenza's are close to the interstices? Was more convenient to have one forum for all the individual knives for sale.


Thanks - Alan
 
The For Sale categories were broken up because people were constantly complaining about too many "BTTT" posts when they were selling knives... with everyone selling in the same forum, there were so many for sale posts that you could post 1 knife for sale, and it'd be on page 5 in 3 hours. This way, your knife has a chance to be seen longer, and people can search through by categories.

Kevin
 
Good job, Kevin! My favorite feature so far is the ability to subscribe to threads other than those that I've started. The buttons for inserting codes into messages look like a neat feature & should save me a few edits. :o Time to go check out that "ignore" feature. :cool:
 
Overall, I'd have to say I can't yet form a real strong opinion. It's pretty early in the process.

Still, I have to say that I can point to some pluses and minuses. Everything is a matter of balance, so each individual's mileage is going to vary here. Features can be nice, but overall, I usually have to vote for speed rather than excessive (:rolleyes: ) features. I understand that everyone's estimate of what qualifies as "excessive" will be different, but I do note that a number of people have commented on the fact that the current version is slower. This will be reflected both in load on the server and in waiting time for users. I'd rate the new version slightly lower than the old based solely on speed. The features can help, but speed is the most important feature, IMHO.

I'll also make myself a PITA and respond to a couple of points by rdangerer.

I like some of the features, like being able to edit the subject
line, and like being able to add your own subject line to a thread

I disagree. I don't see much, if any value in adding a "subject line" internal to a thread. Changing the subject line is important in a usenet context, but in a web board, you have to open (and mostly read) a thread before you get to any internal "subject lines" so they don't strike me as adding any value in contrast to simply adding text to the reply. In fact, you can see in rdangerer's post that the heading style of the "internal subject line" can easily be swamped by the text. This is only a problem if the next "feature" is abused, but ...

It is easier to use bold, italic, and fonts/colors. And of course
many will, for example, TOTALLY overuse these features and make
their posts less readable in the process.

Too true. I don't think we ought to encourage this sort of thing. I find rdangerer's post far less readable because he specified a font and size. In general, I am strongly in favor of web authors leaving font and size unspecified so that users can choose the font that is easiest to read on their own screens. Making this too easy to use will just create more chaos. rdangerer has selected a font and size that he likes, but which may be less readable for others, e.g. me. Most browsers allow you to disregard all font specifications (except your own), but I normally consider that a little extreme. Still, I have had to do it at times.

Times Roman, as a proportionally spaced, serif font, is the
easiest for the human eye to read quickly, mostly because it is
efficient with space, and the little serif "feet" on the letters form
an invisible line that guides the eye from left to right. That is
why newspapers and books are nearly always printed in a
proportional, serif font of one flavor or another.

This is dependent on a lot of features of the presentation medium. Research has shown serif fonts to be more readable if the resolution of the presentation medium is high enough. However, computer screens are rarely high enough, IMHO. Sans serif fonts tend to be more readable in relatively low-resolution situations. Serifs do have the effect he refers to, but on a relatively low-resolution device they tend to be excessively prominent where they should be subtle. If you really want serifs in low-res, you would be better off using a face designed with prominent serifs (i.e. a "slab-serif" font such as Memphis) Still, I tend to advocate allowing the individual reader rather than the individual writer to make the determination for extended text. Personally, I find Times New Roman, despite its excellent hinting, to be less than optimal. I tend to make Georgia my default web browser font (despite my own citation of research preferring sans serif faces).

I also disagree with rdangerer's reasoning about why TNR "should" be preferred. TNR is space efficient, but this does not make it particularly desirable for reading except in narrow (newspaper-like) columns. In wider columns, as normally found on web pages, a more generous, relaxed font is better (e.g., Georgia).

My standard advice is to specify face for display (headings) but leave text unspecified so that the user's default can be set for the user's own preferences. If this advice were implemented in the board software, there would be no need to worry about whether the default style is readable or not -- it would be automatically.

Paul
 
I like it!

Though we are experiencing some minor problems in the For Sale areas (Custom vs. Production) I really like the fact that the For Sale categories are Seperated!

Also, there seems to be many new options to use in the General Posting areas (Vb Code help, Font Size changes, Printable versions of Threads, Avatars, etc.)

I LIKE IT!!
 
Is there anyway to sort the *new posts* by order of forum, like the old way, instead of by dated posted.
 
What happened to the easy to see Blue background with yellow text that appeared a while ago?

It was easy to read and more pleasing to the eye than these boring shades of gray.

I know that there might be some dichromatic colorblind people out there that has some trouble seeing the difference between those two colors but that can be fixed with the right shade of color.

Change the colors, please.

/Colinz

EDIT: splelling as usual AND facts mixed up... argh.
 
Spark, first impression is, it's better than good. I would be more explicit, but I'm waging war with a new laptop as well as CATV connection. Three new things at once are a challenge to this ol' brain. Thanks for your efforts on this, they're appreciated.
 
Although it has more bells and whistles, I don't think it is any better as a means of communications as the old version. Furthermore, it doesn't have the view active topics which I think was a very good feature, and you need more mouse presses to get at the information which means it takes longer to get the same information using this new version. I think it suffers from creeping featurism and wastes time and bandwidth.
 
I would have to say that the new software is faster for me and better organized. Love the extra options and look forward to playing with the others as they become available. I would expect that once people get familiar with the software, they will think twice about going back to the old uBB stuff.

Now I can really flit through only the sales forums that I am interested in and not have to wade through the chaff . Buddy list is great as now I know who is on.

Overall, Spark, you made a good choice towards improving the software, IMO.
 
It's better by far. The only thing I don't like is that the difference between active and inactive forums icons is kinda hard to see.
 
I'm afraid I fall into the lower 10% . . . it is noticably slower to load up (easily twice as slow) and far to "busy" for my liking. I used to be able to scan 20-odd messages on a single screen when entering the forums, now I have to wade through them, text wrap-arounds and all . . .

I appreciate that one has to advance . . . but the pleasure of a message board is the speed with which can (could) navigate. That's not happening now.

Regards, HILTON
 
Hilton - one of the new features is that you can completely customize your display of messages and threads. If there are too few, or too many, per page, you can change the numbers around until you find a happy medium. Just log into your UserCP and click on Edit Options.

Let me know if you have any problems with this.

Kevin
 
Being the type of person that hates change, I'd have to say :barf: even though I kinda like the looks. But I'm totally cornfused, after having been off the board for probably a month, and only one occasionally before that.

WOW!
 
What's the specific question, rocky?
 
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