New Surefires - lookin good

knifenut1013 said:
[...]The different runtime ratings will relate to the thermal regulation of the plastic body model. They don't want it getting too hot and burning out.
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G2X Tactical has same Nitrolon body but is rated for 2.5 hours at 200 lumens....
 
Current release date rumor is late Oct. Also, another rumor has these being made overseas from the same factory that manufacturers the Rogue series of lights (Rogue is an off shoot company which releases lights designed by SF's light designer Paul kim, but not manufactured by SF, although they are warrantied by SF).

Unless these are a huge loss leader, I can't understand what SF is doing by undercutting a lot of their current models. Unless they are made overseas, thus allowing the advertised price point, and maybe a serious entry into the mass market?.

As a side, (IMO...just rumors, etc) SF lights are not 110% made in the U.S. A lot of their LED's are made overseas, and the incan. bulbs used to be made in Mexico, rechargeable cells were made in China. Some of the 8AX and 9AX models were made overseas (and by Streamlight) for a time, before SF had its current facilities.
 
I read on CPF, that it had been confirmed that the lights was made in the USA. That is, to the same extent as other SF lights, which have LED emitters, etc, made overseas.

One of the reasons these models are so cheap, is for example that you cant get to the LED module and exchange it for another drop-in. These models come as sealed units.

I think this is Surefire attempt at a light for the masses. Theyre not undercutting their current models, as theyre meant for 2 different markets. They'll always have their LEO/military customers who'll be willing to shell out abit more for their lights.
 
Josh K said:
How has that been confirmed?
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IIRC, it was something about the incan bulbs being made in Mexico and some of the LED's being manufactured in the far east. Some CPF'ers mentioned that SF XRE emitters had differing backing color, depending on where they where made.

Dont quote me on this, but i think the incan firm SF use is called Carley and they produced some of the bulb-potting across the border in Mexico.

Im just repeating from memory here, and i havent confirmed anything myself. I also read something about Made in the USA (where all components are us-made) vs. Buy American act (where some components are made overseas IF theres no alternative). Being non-us myself, there was alot of it that i didnt understand.

Regarding the new lights, i read that a dealer had contacted SF and asked them where they were being made, and they had said it was a US light.

Do a search on CPF, they've probably discussed this subject to death. :D
 
The sealed head is an interesting hypothesis, however, how does that explain the Stratum? It is an aluminum bodied, dual mode, LED based light with a sealed head, yet it has an MSRP of $165, while the 6px pro has a MSRP of 79 bucks, but both lights look very similar, wth the 6 having better output numbers.

Is the profit margin that great on the Stratum, taking into regard the manufacture costs, or is the 6 a loss leader to intro. SF into a larger market?

Something isnt right about these lights...
 
I'm going down to a knife show in KY in Nov....last year when I was there, they had a Surefire rep there with some "show sale" items.....it's where I bought my cute little yeller one.
Maybe he'll have these this year.
 
According to the rep I spoke with:

* 90% of the lights are made here. Bodies, assemblies, switches, etc. Some parts (i.e. LED's) are not made here simply because they have a lack of raw materiel's.
* These lights will be made here. They have no intention of ever outsourcing more then required. The main reason it took a while to move to LED lights is due to the quality of the LED's available at the time. Since they don't make them, they had to work with makers to obtain them.
* The runtime difference is pre-production numbers. It is very possible that is either a typo, or the listed runtime will be closer to one or the other when they are actually release.
* Price is low due to (a) bulk purchases, (b) reusing existing technology, and (c) they don't have many <$100 lights, recognize this fact as a market weakness, and are trying to improve in that respect.
 
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