New Take on Paper Wheel's

I just made it up in my shop. I believe some 3/8" round stock with 3/8' i.d. sleves. Im sure that there would be other way's in which you could mount it. I'm not sure that you could mount it directly to the buffer, because of vibration. I'd think it would have to be self standing. The thing I was looking for was for the lazer to point pretty much straight down, so you would not get any light in your eyes.
 
Luckily lasers that are available to consumers are considered "eye safe."

What makes them eye safe is that if they are shown in your eye, your brain automatically closes your eye before any damage can be done. Prolonged staring at the laser isn't possible, since the reflex to shut your eye isn't something you can control. Even if you catch a direct shot into your eye, you will close your eye long before your retina can be damaged.
 
cts, your explination saying that the lasers are safe when it comes to your eyes makes sense but its the distraction that i would still be worried about.
 
I understand your concern Richard, but now that i've used it for several weeks, I'd have to say, that if anything, there is absolutely NO distraction. For sure, if anything, it makes you concentrate much more in holding your knife at the exact location instead of trying to guess where to hold it. You'd be amazed at how much better your sharpening ability works. Under maginifacation, there is a great deal of difference from the other way as compared to the lazer. Of course, I do have the wheels turning away from me, and not in the direction I'm standing. You really have to concentrate on where to hold that knife. There is no distraction what so ever!

Again as I've said, if it's not for you, then by all means don't use it or even try it.

Regards,
John
 
i do fine the way i sharpen but a person that is new to the wheels might try something like this until they get used to drawing the knife across the wheel. it would say it would not be needed for the slotted wheel since it is more forgiving.
 
I think the laser idea is a good way to get the diff. angles you might want. I had never thought of using this method. You could try the set up I currently have on my paper wheel system with the angles marked on the metal strips along side each wheel, if you have a concern with the laser. Nice job 1scooter.
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Looks like a great way to get a consistent edge to me.More gadgets and cool machines are always a plus.I pretty much use my belt grinder to achieve the bevel the way i like it now.But i still use the polish paper wheel with compound to polish it out.
 
Ok,
I guess I've got too much time on my hands. From looking at my knives under 12X maginfication, I still was not completely satisfied with the results by using the LAZER, so got to thinking again. I did speak with RichardJ the other day and told him I was working on something else, so here it is.

Under the maginfication I could still see somewhat of a wave in the Edge, so I was not satisfied till I got that out!. I found that using the Lazer was in my estimate about 80%or so better than using nothing at all. I will add here, that there is absolutely no reflection in using the LAZERS on the eyes, as i Hold the edge right at the bottom of the Lazer line. So got to thinking about building a rest to ride the knife across. Can still use the Lazer if wanted, but not necessary at all if I didn't want to use it, after my angle was set.

I know I'm not a photographer, no claim to be, but hope you can make out the pictures.

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Now my edge on the knife show's absolutely no waves in it, and is completely polished. I'm very satisfied with the results. I realize that this is not going to be for everyone, I just wanted to share what I've done, in hope's that it may possible be of benefit to someone. It did take me probably about 5 or 6 hours to build the rest to lay the knife on, and I used JB weld to mount a piece of very hard plastic (Starboard) to the metal rest so as no metal would ever come into contact with the wheels. It takes approximately 2minutes to change the rest from the Grit wheel to the Compound wheel, and it is fully adjustable to any angle or bevel that you may want. I believe that using the paper wheels, now my knives are as sharp as they can possibley be using this method of paper wheel sharpening.
Hope it helps someone that has the time to build such a contraption!
Regards,
John
 
Very nice set-up and it looks well thought out. Looks like most anyone would be pleased with the results you achieved.
Thanks for sharing your ideas.
Ron
 
1scooter, you have given us the "best yet".

Another "whole level" above the lazer.

No batteries and/or reflections from lazer with this set up.

The edges are dangerously bright.

For sure I will be one of the "someones" benefiting from your R&D.

Thanks again
Rupert
 
We oversize the holes in our wheels and install brass bushings to fit our shaft.

That makes for fast wheel change. For sure only a few seconds for change - maybe faster than moving the set up right/left/right.
 
Very cool. I still have to call ya to really get a good explanation about what is going on, but after my first attempt I can tell I can use some help :D

Is it normal for the polishing wheel to turn black?
 
Yes absolutely, they will turn black, from the metal and the compound that you use on them. I'll be glad to discuss it with you sometime. Bmilla325. I know I love it now, even though I don't use the rest all the time, but sure use the Lazer probably 100% of the time.
When sharpening scissors, the rest really shines.

Regards,
John
 
that is a neat setup 1scooter. nice even edge. that would come in handy for sharpening a bunch of scissors for sure.
as long as the angles were the same on every pair you did you could really fly with that setup.
 
Awesome setup. This is what I've imagine making when I find the time: a paper wheel or belt grinder setup with a laser guide and some sort of clamp to hold the angle perfectly still.

Also, the concern with the laser is reflection directly into the eyes. In a construction site, I don't think the lasers in the rooms are going to have as much of a risk as a shiny knife that you're looking at very closely. But the way you have it set up, it doesn't look like it's at an angle that's going to reflect toward you anyway, so you don't have much to worry about.
 
rlucius,

You know, I really don't think so in my personal case. Pretty much with the Lazer, I actually hold the knife right to the bottom edge of the light, so as the light for the most part never touches the blade, (If you have a steady hand). Only thing you have to do is concentrate in holding the knife level. The reason I build the Knife Rest was because as I've said, under strong maginification, I could still see a small bit of wave on the blade. I will say, for the most part just the Lazer is all that is needed. I was just trying to get the wave out using the rest, which it did accomplish. I'd say I use the rest probably only 25% of the time, the Lazer is all that it takes for the most part. There is absolutely a dramatic difference using the Lazer vs. not using it. Much, Much better and sharper. I do feel confident that I (Myself) cannot get my knives any sharper using this method or maybe any other method that I've tried . Maybe using some Diamond Paste or Spray may help if added on the paper wheel instead of green compound. I can't answer that, but long as I can split hairs with the Green compound, that's all I need.

Thanks so much for bringing the bubble jig to my attention, who knows I may even try that sometime in the future.

Regards,
John
 
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