New to for GB

gurkha berserka

gurkha berserka

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Hi guys, I thought I would post some pictures of my new toy. I mentioned it in another thread and some have shown an interest.
It is an Israeli Tavor chambered in 5.56mm. It's overall length is under 30 inches which makes it very compact and great for CQB. I mounted a couple of scopes but still haven't decided on an optic. It's down to a Trijicon TA11, Meprolight RDS, or a Primary Arms Gen3. I am leaning toward the RDS mainly because it's made in Israel and the Israeli military uses it on their Tavor's. The Tavor won the NRA rifle of the year. It's shorter than a NFA short barreled rifle without all the paperwork and loss of ballistics. It has a full length 18in barrel, but it's shorter than a lot of sub machine guns doe to its bullpup configuration. Notice how the trigger and action is IN FRONT of the magazine? That's a bullpup! Another example is the Styer AUG which can be seen in the first Die Hard movie. It was carried by the tall blonde guy name Carl in that movie. He British military uses the L85 bull pup, Austrians use the AUG... The Tavor I bought is used by the Israeli military since 2006 and has been adopted by over 20 other nations. It's as accurate as an AR and as tough and reliable as an AK. Here are some pics...
 
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Too damn cool GB! I would think that will serve you well should the need arise. Spare mags?
 
What do you need this for ? If you are in the armed services surely you are supplied with weapons ?
kj
 
That is nice! How's the trigger? That can be an issue on bullpups because of having to link up with the hammer way in the back.
 
kootenay joe said:
What do you need this for ? If you are in the armed services surely you are supplied with weapons ?
kj
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KJ, with almost 600 posts here you should know that 99.9% of the items we discuss on Bladeforums are not in the need category;) As GB said in the first line, it's his new toy.
 
Jdk1 hit the nail in the head. It's my new toy and home defense weapon along with my trusty 1911. Both have lights which are a must for home defense.

Mags? You ask, I have a ton because it takes standard AR mags. I have built up a good supply over the years.

The trigger pull? It's not bad for a bullpup. It has all steel trigger components and linkage unlike most bullpup's like the Steyr AUG and FN Fs2000. Those bullpup's use plastic hammers and sear components. The Tavor is all steel. It's a bit heavy trigger pull at ten pounds or so. They sell aftermarket drop in trigger packs that produce AR like 4lbs trigger pulls. They cost almost 400 bucks! I get 1moa all day long with the stock trigger and match ammo. It's heavy but crisp and I like the proven military design. It has a exta reset spring that makes the pull heavier bit also makes it super reliable. It's as reliable as the AK... Even in the fine Israeli sand. It's a great rifle
 
I understand needs vs. wants. I don't need 9,000 knives. My issue with your new 'toy' is that it is designed for one purpose only: killing people, lots of them and very quickly, suitable only for an active combat zone or for training before being deployed.
kj
 
kootenay joe said:
I understand needs vs. wants. I don't need 9,000 knives. My issue with your new 'toy' is that it is designed for one purpose only: killing people, lots of them and very quickly, suitable only for an active combat zone or for training before being deployed.
kj
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That is your opinion, not for the rest of us. Gb is a mature adult, and he knows what he is doing. He ain't going to be on the 6:00pm news!

Besides, with his post, now it's even got me interested, I never knew such an item even existed. I have quite a few firearms (single and/or double actions, subs too), I was never in the military, but I am responsible, and keep them for my own interests. I don't plan on going out to "kill people, lots of them and very quickly", as you think, but I will protect my home, and family, that's for sure, especially in a SHTF scenario.

The HI cantina is for any subject, and for any hobby discussions for the interest of its members.
 
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kootenay joe said:
I understand needs vs. wants. I don't need 9,000 knives. My issue with your new 'toy' is that it is designed for one purpose only: killing people, lots of them and very quickly, suitable only for an active combat zone or for training before being deployed.
kj
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I have shot my pistols thousands and thousands and a bunch more thousands of times. I have yet to kill or hit anyone yet. Maybe there could be other purposes as well to firearms.
 
kootenay joe said:
I understand needs vs. wants. I don't need 9,000 knives. My issue with your new 'toy' is that it is designed for one purpose only: killing people, lots of them and very quickly, suitable only for an active combat zone or for training before being deployed.
kj
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I stopped responding to trolls like you a long time ago. I'm an American who practices his God given birth right to bear arms... enough said!
 
gurkha berserka said:
I stopped responding to trolls like you a long time ago. I'm an American who practices his God given birth right to bear arms... enough said!
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Well said Gurkha, As a proud American and gun owner as well, enjoy that piece. And Joe dont be such a TOOL, oh and welcome to my ignore list!!!!!!!!!!
 
jdk1 said:
That is nice! How's the trigger? That can be an issue on bullpups because of having to link up with the hammer way in the back.
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I was wondering the same. Is that the trigger rod I see through that vent? Very interesting configuration. Bulpup is new to me? From 10# to 4# :thumbup:

btw: As a boy I always dreamed of having a bulldozer! Dont need one but sure would be cool:thumbup:...still want one:D
 
ndoghouse said:
btw: As a boy I always dreamed of having a bulldozer! Dont need one but sure would be cool:thumbup:...still want one:D
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My wish as a kid was a Bobcat, as an adult, still a Bobcat, but reasoning dictates, what the hell am I going to use it for? Digging up my concreted backyard...lol
 
ndoghouse said:
I was wondering the same. Is that the trigger rod I see through that vent? Very interesting configuration. Bulpup is new to me? From 10# to 4# :thumbup:

btw: As a boy I always dreamed of having a bulldozer! Dont need one but sure would be cool:thumbup:...still want one:D
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That is actually the cocking rod that extends to the bolt carrier. The charging handle is located on the left side of the weapon near the muzzle. The rod/cocking handle you see is non-reciprocating type. It does have last round hold open and the bolt release is located just behind the mag well on the bottom. It's extremely fast to reload. The mag release is located just in front of the mag well. You engage it with the backside of your strong hand. It's hard to describe, but you kind open your hand that is holding he pistol grip just a bit and it engages the mag release. Your weak hand is free to grab a spare mag and push it into place, once it's locked in you just tap the bolt release with your thumb. It can be done in one fluid motion with practice.

Here is a video on how fast the mag change is...
[video]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YgNjfXbjrk0[/video]
 
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Ah, the Tavor. An excellent design held back in my view by one flaw: I can't afford one. I like how you went with the 18" barrel. Better ballistics in a package that is still really short. I've often wondered why the 16" barrel models sell so much better than the 18".
 
I think people want the shortest package and that's why they go with the 16.5 in model. I would rather the 18 in for better velocity and it's also what is issued in the Israeli military. The 16.5 model is for the civilians market as the IDF uses 18 and 15 inch versions. Like I said I much prefer and additional 150fps over the 1.5 inch space saving.

Here is a video of the best shooter in the world dumping 40 rounds on target in a very short amount of time. Notice the lack of muzzle rise.
[video]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cjx4KSKHIC4[/video]
 
kootenay joe said:
I understand needs vs. wants. I don't need 9,000 knives. My issue with your new 'toy' is that it is designed for one purpose only: killing people, lots of them and very quickly, suitable only for an active combat zone or for training before being deployed.
kj
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Please go somewhere else with anti-gun rant....go ban motorcycles that might go 200 mph....or knives with edges which might cut a person intentionally...guns and knives do not induce insanity...with near 600 posts you are no troll but only a troublemaker spoiling a man-thing showing of new gadget toy weapon....it is a man thing...but if you persist it behaving as troll, you will be treated as such, so kindly fly away and pester somebody else while you can still post.

Back to subject, safely over SBR/SBS min length by a good 4"....what is weight with all gizmos?....actual weight.....i ask as most guys i know of end up with something near Garand and then the handy thing just stays at home....is this gas impingement or op rod action?...i hope gas piston....i loathed my AR in combat...had to keep wet to keep running and increased fouling while oil mist in eyes while firing....used a good (there are sorry ones) AK every chance i could get....

we had an old High Standard bullpup shotgun in my squad, along with an M3A1 which was favorite along with a good AK....
 
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