NEW U.S.-made carbon steel Old Timer knives!?

afishhunter said:
Doubtful/unlikely it is Utica.

Reason: Utica/Kutmaster quit making traditional pocket knives at least 10 to 15 years ago. 😢
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No it has not been nearly that long, and while they may not offer them under their own name at this time, they're still making a few models of electricians knives for Klein.

I'm guessing B & S for these knives because of the sharp finger which is a pattern B & S offers and they do use 1095, but Utica could be a potential source because they still do contract production.
 
The black wood handled ones are made in China I believe. I hadn't seen the bone USA ones. BTI was headquartered in Columbia, but as far as know, no knives are made there.
One other point: Schrade and Old Timer are being marketed as separate entities, complete with separate websites.
 
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mbkr said:
One other point: Schrade and Old Timer are being marketed as separate entities, complete with separate websites.
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Yes, if you look at the AOB site Schrade, Old Timer and Uncle Henry are just separate brand names with no connection at all. The names are being used to sell knives by brand recognition only, where as before Uncle Henry and Old Timer were both names used on Schrade made knives and you knew what you were getting.....
 
tongueriver said:
I just spotted one today on the internet auction site. Says USA on the tang but there is so much 'stuff' going on anymore with no one watching the henhouse except the foxes, I had to wonder. The knife looks pretty Chinese to me. I am certainly interested in the 'skinny' on these.
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Did you have a look at 'The Older Timer' web site yet? It's worth a gander. Just make sure you're looking at the Generational Series with 1095 steel. These are their only U.S.-made models as best I can tell.

-- Mark
 
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mbkr said:
The black wood handled ones are made in China I believe. I hadn't seen the bone USA ones. BTI was headquartered in Columbia, but as far as know, no knives are made there.
One other point: Schrade and Old Timer are being marketed as separate entities, complete with separate websites.
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It's my understanding that you are correct.

The black handled knives (169OTH, 94OTH, 34OTH, and 5OTH) are part of the Heritage series, featuring D2 blades, and made in China.

The brown bone handled knives (152OTG, 34OTG, 94OTG, and 5OTG) are the Generational series, featuring 1095 blades, and made in the USA.

Now I just gotta decide between the Sharpfinger, Trapper, or Bruin!!!
 
And does "made in the USA" mean manufactured or assembled? Though maybe they'd have to mention the imported parts, if "assembled" were the case.
 
Fixall said:
The brown bone handled knives (152OTG, 34OTG, 94OTG, and 5OTG) are the Generational series, featuring 1095 blades, and made in the USA.
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screened porch said:
And does "made in the USA" mean manufactured or assembled? Though maybe they'd have to mention the imported parts, if "assembled" were the case.
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If these are really USA made and good steel, we could be on to something. I'll be looking for feedback from forum members.
 
The USA Middleman has me interested.
But at that price, I'll let others tell me how good or bad it is first.
 
Still likin the Sharpfinger. Old enough to recall when you got one for free with a subscription to Outdoor Life magazine back in the late 60s! Think they were made with quality steel In U.S and later changed when Made in China took over. Thanks for the info.
 
JohnDF said:
The USA Middleman has me interested.
But at that price, I'll let others tell me how good or bad it is first.
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Same here. I presume they're looking to the old Schrade Old Timers for inspiration, but -- even taking inflation into account -- they don't seem to be emulating the pricing on the old ones. :( Still, always nice to see new American-made, carbon steel knives come to market.

-- Mark
 
mnblade said:
Still, always nice to see new American-made, carbon steel knives come to market.

-- Mark
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Lets not jump to any conclusions just yet.....We know who is selling them, but not who is actually making them.
Fixall said:
It's my understanding that you are correct.

The black handled knives (169OTH, 94OTH, 34OTH, and 5OTH) are part of the Heritage series, featuring D2 blades, and made in China.

The brown bone handled knives (152OTG, 34OTG, 94OTG, and 5OTG) are the Generational series, featuring 1095 blades, and made in the USA.

Now I just gotta decide between the Sharpfinger, Trapper, or Bruin!!!
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I don't see why if they have what are essentially the same knives with different handle and blade materials for each series, why would one be made in the US and one in China? You got to wonder who is making what, and where the line between "made" and "assembled" is drawn there?
 
Maybe they think we'll pay more for something that says made in USA.
Maybe it's a hedge against actual or possible trade frictions (I can't keep up with that stuff).
It looks like they're roughly twice the price of comparable Case? That would be an adjustment for me.
 
Arathol said:
I don't see why if they have what are essentially the same knives with different handle and blade materials for each series, why would one be made in the US and one in China? You got to wonder who is making what, and where the line between "made" and "assembled" is drawn there?
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All of the brown-boned, Generational series knives say "features a 1095 high carbon steel blade handcrafted in the USA."

All of the gray laminate wood, Heritage series knives say "features top quality D2 steel blade design." and nowhere on the page does is say handcrafted in the USA. The Heritage knives are also half the cost of the Generational knives.
 
I like the blades on that 34OT, but the bolsters are a deal breaker for me.
One of my first knives was a 34OT, and without the square bolster frame it's just not a 34OT to me.

As always these days a company tries and comes close but still fails because they just did it for marketing and didn't actually care.
 
The grind on the sharpfinger looks interesting. Still waiting on the whole story behind these knives.
 
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