New ZT's for 2017 what do you love?

Been holding off on a 562cf in the hopes maybe an update to it or a variant of the 392 but no joy, so I'm going to pick up a 562cf now, might grab two in the event they discontinue those. :rolleyes:
 
PURPLEDC said:
You think the 0400 scavenger and 0300 pocket bricks were practical? Even the 0200 was a big knife for a pocket knife. None of them to me seemed practical. Really cool and interesting looking but not very practical. And those were the original knives they made and its original fan base.



And I think its on washers too.
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I'm officially interested. I'll have to keep an eye out for it's release date (the 0850).
 
PURPLEDC said:
Ok but you also mentioned the 0300. And that thing is the heaviest folder they have ever made. Or is weight only an issue when it helps your argument?
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I was replying to this comment:
metsfan said:
I don't believe the 909 is inferior to the 560. I own both and they both handle everything I throw at them just fine.
Curious to what makes the 909 inferior...?
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He didn't ask about my thoughts on the 0300.
 
Wolverine666 said:
I'm officially interested. I'll have to keep an eye out for it's release date (the 0850).
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Same here. I just wish ZT would confirm whether or not it's on washers. I've been pestering them on IG and other places, but have yet to get a response. But they're likely too busy with Shot Show
 
I like everything about the 0850 but the blade, unfortunately. I'd love the 0920 if it was smaller.


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PC87 said:
Been holding off on a 562cf in the hopes maybe an update to it or a variant of the 392 but no joy, so I'm going to pick up a 562cf now, might grab two in the event they discontinue those. :rolleyes:
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It is a great knife. The best ZT has put out IMO in terms of being a user.
 
I don't doubt for a minute that ZT will continue to dominate the market with their new offerings.

I have not been too aware of GTC, but I am excited to see what the deal is with the spring flipper.

Definitely in for all of them if I am so lucky - I like the update to the 801 - wish I had gotten the bronze sprint from last year, but glad they made this version the new production piece.

Love the new George - awesome, and can't wait to see what the story is on the Sinkevich/Rexford collaboration.

There is bound to be some that don't like knives from any company. That ZT is the industry leader shows that they seem to know what they are doing.

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mqqn
 
Looks like a bunch of man jewelry to me, more bearing infested couch toys to flip open. They've lost that strong dependable tool vibe like sebenza and other makers have going for them. But hey, that's what the kids want these days so that's what they produce.
 
Gideons said:
Why? ZT original fan base weree fans of the hard use and practical knives they made. These knives are not hard use, or very practical looking. The new knives look very gimmicky, needlessly outlandish lines, not very practical and just something collectors will buy but nobody will actually use. Basically, these new knives are the complete opposite to what Zero Tolerance original customers enjoyed and the reason they bought ZT knives? Not very surprising at all about the negativity from this 2017 line up.
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Agree 100%
 
Scurvy092 said:
Don't think that just because there is a handful of haters hear, that you are in the minority. The reception elsewhere has been phenomenal.

ZT knows what sells and clearly huge heavy way overbuilt super thick knives don't see no matter how much the haters don't want to acknowledge it.
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Just because it sells, doesn't mean it's a good knife. All it means is that the market wants it, weather the market be real knife USERS or teenagers that love collecting and flipping toy art knives. ZT don't give a hoot about knife performance anymore, they are in the business of money, and it clearly shows from these star trek looking knives. My opinion of course.
 
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MaxFactor said:
Same here. I just wish ZT would confirm whether or not it's on washers. I've been pestering them on IG and other places, but have yet to get a response. But they're likely too busy with Shot Show
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its not on kvt bearings so its on washers. it says it on the zt website that its manual open and doesn't list kvt. plus the videos of its action are clearly washers.
 
Baller said:
This statement lowered my IQ
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How's that exactly? Do you need it explained better?

It happens in all markets, knives, video games, tools, household products, software.

People "wanting" something doesn't mean it's actually a good product, ZT make a lot of money being able to make knives with respectable build quality that mimic other high end custom maker designs that guys like Jim Skelton like to review - for a decent price. Does it mean they cut well? no. Does it mean the ergo's stand up to hard work? no. Does it mean they will last a lifetime like some of their old models if you use the crap out of them? - you see where i'm going with this?

It's easy to milk the market, smart companies know what they're doing.
 
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Mick_1KRR said:
Agree 100%
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It is amusing to me that people continue to bloviate about the ZT offerings not being usable without having actually owned or used them.

I DO own these "art knives" and I DO use them and they are just as usable as and of the venerable old-school ZTs that they "built their market" upon.

Of course I don't use my knives as pry-bars or try to baton them through steel pipes or bricks, but for cutting things they have all worked very well, including the 0999 that was roundly described by the experts here as being an un-usable knife.

Meanwhile, ZT is laughing all the way to the bank. :D

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mqqn
 
Mick_1KRR said:
How's that exactly? Do you need it explain better?
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You're basically saying if a knife sells well it's simply because the market wants it. I highly doubt the "market" had suddenly decided to crave poor knives. Also you say ZT doesn't care about performance anymore, I guess carbon fiber, titanium, and super blade steels are a step down from the g10 and s30v of the companies past.
 
mqqn said:
It is amusing to me that people continue to bloviate about the ZT offerings not being usable without having actually owned or used them.

I DO own these "art knives" and I DO use them and they are just as usable as and of the venerable old-school ZTs that they "built their market" upon.

Of course I don't use my knives as pry-bars or try to baton them through steel pipes or bricks, but for cutting things they have all worked very well, including the 0999 that was roundly described by the experts here as being an un-usable knife.

Meanwhile, ZT is laughing all the way to the bank. :D

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mqqn
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I understand your point, i've also owned dozens of ZT's over the years and used them a lot. Still got 300's and 550's that have taken a beating. It's just a shame they're all such sci fi looking knives now, nothing but bearings and Ti framelocks with pink and purple anodizing as far as the eye can see. ZT are a smart company, they know what sells these days, doesn't always mean it's a good tool tho.
 
Baller said:
You're basically saying if a knife sells well it's simply because the market wants it. I highly doubt the "market" had suddenly decided to crave poor knives. Also you say ZT doesn't care about performance anymore, I guess carbon fiber, titanium, and super blade steels are a step down from the g10 and s30v of the companies past.
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I edited my post to explain further for you. It's not that the materials are bad, ZT have fantastic fit & finish, good heat treats and the like. But seriously look at some of these designs? look at some of the ergo's/cutting geometry etc. Do we really need to have everything rolling on tiny little bearings that eat tracks into the bearing housing due to them being way harder than the titanium? do we need massive thick blade stock and huge thickness behind the edges? crazy lines machined into the titanium? It's just getting a bit much, all my opinion tho. When i say good "knife" i mean a knife as in a cutting tool that performs as a knife should in cutting. I'd just be a bit embarrassed to pull out one of these transformer looking knives in front of anyone. Their quality is great otherwise.
 
I predict that people who like the way they look and perform will buy them. Those who don't, won't. Both groups will be happy.
 
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