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I'll admit that I skipped over some of the more verbose posts, but I'll add my two cents.

One thing to keep in mind for new members is that in the history of BFC, iTrader is a baby and during it's time here it's been down more than once, so as far as deals go, a lot more have been done without it than with it. On another note, a lot of members either don't know about it at all or have no idea how to use it. If you want the numbers next to your name and someone doesn't add them on their own, send them a note. If they still don't do it, I'd probably not spend much time worrying about it. This isn't eBay.
 
I think that one thing to keep in mind for all members, both new and old alike, just because we've done things a certain way for many years doesn't mean that it's the best way or only way to get the best results.

The OP had a legitimate complaint and he aired it. For any of us to discount his feelings would be akin to placing our own beliefs, judgements and feelings above the OP's, which I'm sure was both unintentional as well as understandable.......as human beings. I can understand where the OP was coming from and said so. It is oftentimes much more easy for me to express myself and my thoughts more clearly when writing rather than even through actual discussions. If my posts languished a bit longer than some thought necessary.........my apologizes.

In truth.....I have found many verbose posts in much, much shorter posts here and elsewhere. For me, being too wordy has everything to do with content, not length. To others, perhaps not so much. Some might feel that the Constitution or the Bible a bit verbose or sermons at church perhaps.......we all have our own definitions of such things. Stating which is which to our own way of thinking..........neither positive nor likely to end up in an amicable resolution. There are several posts here that aim to discount and somewhat disparage other posters for not sharing their same views. Most are subtle inferences, but somewhat veiled attempts at discounting one's feelings, nonetheless, whether intentional or not.

I don't suppose that any of us will lose anytime over not receiving a positive feedback now and again. But that is my and perhaps other members opinion's and feeling's, not neccessarily the OP's, as one could quite easily ascertain. So let's not discount the vailidity of this thread and his posts by attempting to minimize his comments.

This may not be ebay, Craigslist or any other of this type site that we have available to us these days, but it may be ALL of those things and more to the OP or to many other forum members. That's surely not for us to determine and would be quite pretentious of us to do so.

Give feedback, be it good or bad and offer clear explanations for both........just don't get too wordy......;)
 
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I don't know if it was because of my operating system or because of my browser or what. But for a long time I was blocked from leaving feedback. After months of trying, I gave up because trying was a waste of time.

Other people were still able to leave me feedback, for which I am tremendously grateful.

But I have a 4/5 or 9/10 shot of my feedback not going through, and I have very little patience when my computer doesn't cooperate.
 

My "verbose" comment wasn't meant as a shot at anyone. It was 2:30 in the morning here, and I'd just sat down. The comment was meant to reflect that I may have missed something written in the longer posts. If you look for reasons to be insulted here you're probably gonna find them quite easily.

iTrader feedback may be a great thing and some members may feel that everyone should leave it, but as it stands it's voluntary. Whatever someone's reason for not using it, it's their choice. While nobody is placing anyone's feelings above the OP, we're also not placing his above the individual choices of everyone else.
 
Haven't looked for any insults and certainly didn't expect to find any given the contents of my posts. Perhaps....."I'm tired and I don't have anytime to read through these longer posts...."might have made it seem less pointed.......;). "I may have missed something written in the longer posts".......is world's apart from verbose, as I'm assuming you already knew....and know. But, my assumptions, as anyone's, are not always correct. There were likely several assumptions made throughout this thread that made assuming for anyone, a bit of a stretch.

The OP was venting and made a statement in that regard. I don't expect that he would have done so without much reflection beforehand.......and for his own reasons, constructed a thread in that regard. Again, assuming that positive feedback entries meant more to him than many, I proceeded with my thoughts along those lines, essentially supporting his thoughts and feelings. Not because I felt he needed support nor hand holding, but because I felt and feel the same way at times. However, what he ended up getting, even though any reasonable person could plainly see that there was no question that feedback meant a great deal to him, was essentially, "don't worry about it so much........we don't".

I don't suspect that the OP could have given a rat's behind that anybody else cared about feedback ratings when he posted his first remarks....the fact that he most certainly cared was obvious and that's where some of our approach's to offering our own opinions and their content, differ.

Agreeing to disagree is not a hardship nor unsettling. I'm thinkin' that we're this far only due to how we choose to word things, which in this particular case, wasn't lost on me....whether intentional or not. Since we can only be expected to respond to a man's choice of words rather than what he might have intended to say, it should have seemed a totally reasonable response on my part. Turn the table.....you clearly have 2 of the longest posts in a thread and someone states quite clearly that your posts are "verbose".............not that they were long posts, not that their time was limited in reading each post and not many handfulls of other very acceptable responses which would have sufficed in the congenial, amicable and/or pleasant conversation..... arena.

Off to the rifle range.........
 
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I don't know if it was because of my operating system or because of my browser or what. But for a long time I was blocked from leaving feedback. After months of trying, I gave up because trying was a waste of time.

Other people were still able to leave me feedback, for which I am tremendously grateful.

But I have a 4/5 or 9/10 shot of my feedback not going through, and I have very little patience when my computer doesn't cooperate.

Well, after reading the original post and then posting this, I thought I'd give feedback one more try.

I was shocked to see it go through no problem. Hm. I think maybe somebody fixed something. :thumbup:
 
I don't always remember to leave feedback, but If someone leaves me feed back I always leave some for them as well. And if someone reminds me to I always do as well. Some folks just forget.
 
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